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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks Jim Benning Fined, Milan Lucic Dined, Emerson Etem Signed
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CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jun 29 @ 12:10 PM ET
it is tampering...the players are under contract to another team till july 1. Traditionally it is an unfair advantage to speak publicly about a player under contract to another team previous to FA as it can form thoughts about that team in the players before other teams can talk to them as well with equal opportunity.

However with the more recent change of 5 day talk to period before FA (and JB was within that) exactly where was harm done? SO you can talk directly to the player now, wine dine etc, but you cant talk to fans? How the F*ck is THAT tampering?

- SMBDragon


I'm no mathematician, but...
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 29 @ 12:11 PM ET
If JB was shocked that he got fined then I would be concerned but as I said before I think he knew exactly what he was doing.
- bloatedmosquito


I suspect they wanted to send a message to agents and other teams that they are going to be active on July 1st and they are serious about the playoffs.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 29 @ 12:12 PM ET
If the Canucks don't sign anyone July 1st is it a victory or failure?

Not sure I want to get into a 6 year deal for a plug that could end up being a Dustin brown type contract in 2-3 years.

- Scooby_Doo



I think it is a victory.

Not for ticket sales necessarily but they might be able to sign a couple ufa's to shorter cheaper contracts, demands of remaining ufa's will be lessened after July 1st.

Just hoping nothing happens and JB takes another fine and says he is targeting Jamie Benn next summer.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 29 @ 12:12 PM ET
If the Canucks don't sign anyone July 1st is it a victory or failure?

Not sure I want to get into a 6 year deal for a plug that could end up being a Dustin brown type contract in 2-3 years.

- Scooby_Doo


They fail either way
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jun 29 @ 12:23 PM ET
I think it is a victory.

Not for ticket sales necessarily but they might be able to sign a couple ufa's to shorter cheaper contracts, demands of remaining ufa's will be lessened after July 1st.

Just hoping nothing happens and JB takes another fine and says he is targeting Jamie Benn next summer
.

- hillbillydeluxe



Getting Benn would be the best move the Canucks made since they drafted the twins but the Stars and Benn are in the process of working on an extension.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jun 29 @ 12:24 PM ET
I suspect they wanted to send a message to agents and other teams that they are going to be active on July 1st and they are serious about the playoffs.
- CanuckDon


I'm absolutely terrified that Benning could go "all in" on Lucic.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 29 @ 12:32 PM ET
If the Canucks don't sign anyone July 1st is it a victory or failure?

Not sure I want to get into a 6 year deal for a plug that could end up being a Dustin brown type contract in 2-3 years.

- Scooby_Doo

Victory.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 29 @ 12:32 PM ET
I'm absolutely terrified that Benning could go "all in" on Lucic.
- fiveandagame


We all fear a large Lucic contract but I think it's a long shot. Benning and Linden could just be going through the motions so fans think they are trying everything to improve the team. Also, even if Benning is serious, Lucic would be foolish to play in Vancouver.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 29 @ 12:33 PM ET
Getting Benn would be the best move the Canucks made since they drafted the twins but the Stars and Benn are in the process of working on an extension.
- fiveandagame


I wish JB would whisper in a reporter's ear that Benn is a Canuck next summer if he wants to come back to BC. and get that rumour out there, in the least it may drive up Benn's demands and Dallas ends up spending more.

Truthfully though, I hate all the hometown stuff when it comes to free agents, so few examples of it materializing beyond Hamhuis coming back to BC.

I hadn't heard anything on the Stars and Benn in negotiations but it absolutely makes sense. Tampa screwed up by not re-upping Stamkos and will totally luck out if they can do a sign and trade or recoup anything.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jun 29 @ 12:34 PM ET
We all fear a large Lucic contract but I think it's a long shot. Benning and Linden could just be going through the motions so fans think they are trying everything to improve the team. Also, even if Benning is serious, Lucic would be foolish to play in Vancouver.
- CanuckDon


This is what scares me.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 29 @ 12:37 PM ET
I suspect they wanted to send a message to agents and other teams that they are going to be active on July 1st and they are serious about the playoffs.
- CanuckDon


Me too. I was more surprised about the amount. Seemed excessive.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jun 29 @ 12:38 PM ET
Victory.
- Marwood


Absolutely, draft and develop. The problem is I see 1 or 2 big contracts on the books for next year.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 29 @ 12:39 PM ET
Me too. I was more surprised about the amount. Seemed excessive.
- bloatedmosquito


The amount was excessive. Most teams would have been fined $20K while Boston would have been awarded an additional 2nd round pick.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jun 29 @ 12:40 PM ET
I wish JB would whisper in a reporter's ear that Benn is a Canuck next summer if he wants to come back to BC. and get that rumour out there, in the least it may drive up Benn's demands and Dallas ends up spending more.

Truthfully though, I hate all the hometown stuff when it comes to free agents, so few examples of it materializing beyond Hamhuis coming back to BC.

I hadn't heard anything on the Stars and Benn in negotiations but it absolutely makes sense. Tampa screwed up by not re-upping Stamkos and will totally luck out if they can do a sign and trade or recoup anything.

- hillbillydeluxe



Did they? They made game 7 of the ECF without him. I think the only mistake Tampa made was not trading him. I think his injury screwed things up more than anything else.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 29 @ 12:41 PM ET
If the Canucks don't sign anyone July 1st is it a victory or failure?

Not sure I want to get into a 6 year deal for a plug that could end up being a Dustin brown type contract in 2-3 years.

- Scooby_Doo

It would have to be a Dustin Brown type contract the day it is signed in order to be that. If it is a Dustin Brown type in say 3 years, then it was better than Dustin Browns.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 29 @ 12:43 PM ET
The amount was excessive. Most teams would have been fined $20K while Boston would have been awarded an additional 2nd round pick.
- CanuckDon

Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 29 @ 12:43 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman ✔ @FriedgeHNIC
Raymond (CAL) and Nystrom (NASH) to be bought out. Stuart clears.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 29 @ 12:44 PM ET
If the Canucks don't sign anyone July 1st is it a victory or failure?

Not sure I want to get into a 6 year deal for a plug that could end up being a Dustin brown type contract in 2-3 years.

- Scooby_Doo

Regardless of who they sign, if they sign anyone, they won't be worth the money in three to for years.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jun 29 @ 12:45 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman ✔ @FriedgeHNIC
Raymond (CAL) and Nystrom (NASH) to be bought out. Stuart clears.

- Retinalz



If Pittsburgh taught us anything its that you need speed. Come on Benning
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 29 @ 12:51 PM ET
Absolutely, draft and develop. The problem is I see 1 or 2 big contracts on the books for next year.
- fiveandagame

Aquillini at the Lucic dinner just proves that he is fully involved in the hockey ops.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 29 @ 12:52 PM ET
Did they? They made game 7 of the ECF without him. I think the only mistake Tampa made was not trading him. I think his injury screwed things up more than anything else.
- fiveandagame


Losing your franchise player for nothing is a catastrophe. Just imagine the outrage if this happened in Vancouver. There would be a lineup 10,000 deep to jump of the Lionsgate bridge.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 29 @ 12:53 PM ET
Aquillini at the Lucic dinner just proves that he is fully involved in the hockey ops.
- Marwood

Well he owns the restaurant. Perhaps he was just helping out in the dish pit and he heard a commotion in the restaurant and went to see who it was.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jun 29 @ 12:57 PM ET
Aquillini at the Lucic dinner just proves that he is fully involved in the hockey ops.
- Marwood


It also proves that Gergor Robertson is involved in hockey ops.
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 29 @ 12:57 PM ET
Regardless of who they sign, if they sign anyone, they won't be worth the money in three to for years.
- LeftCoaster


I'll throw out another name who had something like the 4th or 5th most points in the 2nd half of last season who's still young, 24, Brayden Schenn, last 3 seasons 20, 18, 26 goals, 41, 47, 59 points in those seasons. He might be a 1b c and I would say an upgrade on offence from Sutter.
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 29 @ 12:58 PM ET
Aquillini at the Lucic dinner just proves that he is fully involved in the hockey ops.
- Marwood


Definitely
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