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Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 11:11 AM ET
I agree I was stating about his spending. It might be 11.5-12 a year.
- SABRES 89



I am all for going crazy with cash if it's for the right player!
bmhumby
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Work
Joined: 08.11.2009

Jun 29 @ 11:12 AM ET
Not saying to rip him. Trust me I give them a lot of credit for dealing with the wackos that call into the show saying trade Pysyk and a 2nd for Hall but I didn't agree with their convo this morning about offering a premium for Jones.
- buffalokb


Lucky for all of us, it didn't happen. But like others on here weer saying, you don't throw an offersheet at a player that is easy for a team to match. This contract would have been EASY for CBJ to match... you have to overpay.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 11:13 AM ET
It feels like they gave him a UFA contract when he wasn't a UFA yet, and I understand why.
- kingcong39

He was going to be one though If I remember correctly.

I think he's a great second liner that's worth around 6-6.5. It's not a horrible deal
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 11:17 AM ET
Defense also tend to look a lot better to the eye and on paper if the offense score more too. You tend to worry less about defense if the offense is explosive. I think that's what we're trying to build here.
- bmhumby

Agreed, so why lock up that much coin in the D If we are building a powerhouse offense.

SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 29 @ 11:18 AM ET
I am all for going crazy with cash if it's for the right player!
- Stripes77

I agree
bmhumby
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Work
Joined: 08.11.2009

Jun 29 @ 11:21 AM ET
Agreed, so why lock up that much coin in the D If we are building a powerhouse offense.
- sbroads24


I don't disagree with you. I'm just saying I'm glad it didn't happen. Jeremy was spouting out an idea. It sounds like it wasn't that well thought out haha.

Can we all agree that signing a defenseman to an offer sheet is a silly idea?
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Jun 29 @ 11:22 AM ET
They'll have to move either Eberle or RNH then.
- mhp


Because that has been easy thus far, everyone knows Edmonton is screwed with those contracts and wont be willing to give up much for those two or Eberle. And their new GM who was going to shake things up won't make a trade to dump salary because he overvalues everyone right now.
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 11:24 AM ET
From EK:

"#5. Stamkos looks like he will decide relatively quickly and it will get done on July 1st or July 2nd. Detroit, Toronto, and Tampa are the favorites as of now, but the Islanders are putting up a big push I am told."


Love it
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 29 @ 11:25 AM ET
What's today's rumor dujour.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 29 @ 11:25 AM ET
From EK:

"#5. Stamkos looks like he will decide relatively quickly and it will get done on July 1st or July 2nd. Detroit, Toronto, and Tampa are the favorites as of now, but the Islanders are putting up a big push I am told."


Love it

- Stripes77


Last week buffalo was in the top 3. Today, gone. Good job Ek.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 29 @ 11:27 AM ET
From EK:

"#5. Stamkos looks like he will decide relatively quickly and it will get done on July 1st or July 2nd. Detroit, Toronto, and Tampa are the favorites as of now, but the Islanders are putting up a big push I am told."


Love it

- Stripes77

Gotta love it
IceColdBeer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The CLT, NC
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jun 29 @ 11:27 AM ET
Hai guys. Did we sign Stamkos yet?
Pope of Pucks
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Miller's Dark Shadows, AZ
Joined: 08.04.2009

Jun 29 @ 11:28 AM ET
I will pick olli up at the buffalo airport tomorrow morning
- homiedclown

I was gonna ask you to do that. He needs a ride to the bus station.
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 29 @ 11:33 AM ET
Columbus has killed all offer sheet chatter by signing Seth Jones to a 6 year, $32.4 million contract extension.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 29 @ 11:35 AM ET
If the Bruins offer sheet Trouba it might run them 9.3 a year, at least that's what I was reading.
- SABRES 89

its because they don't have a 2nd.. you can't offer sheet if you can't back up the match
IceColdBeer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The CLT, NC
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jun 29 @ 11:35 AM ET
Because that has been easy thus far, everyone knows Edmonton is screwed with those contracts and wont be willing to give up much for those two or Eberle. And their new GM who was going to shake things up won't make a trade to dump salary because he overvalues everyone right now.
- BigStew


RNH or Hall are out by the summer imo
50GinosIn07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bylsmania, NY
Joined: 04.05.2015

Jun 29 @ 11:36 AM ET
So Ek doesn't have us as a favorite?!? That's great news right!?
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 29 @ 11:37 AM ET
So Ek doesn't have us as a favorite?!? That's great news right!?
- 50GinosIn07

yes.... yes it is fantastic
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Jun 29 @ 11:39 AM ET
RNH or Hall are out by the summer imo
- IceColdBeer


Two of the three guys that hold $6M/yr should be but they have been reluctant to do so thus far, maybe that changes but they will have to plug their nose in order to get a deal done.
nfph
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Jun 29 @ 11:40 AM ET
sorry in advance that this post isn't taking pages and pages of discussion into account.

But I don't think Buffalo is getting Stamkos.

I think TM will offer a ton of money, and he will play for one of TBL, TOR, or maybe BOS/MTL.

And I think that's a fine outcome. We aren't desperate for a top-6 center, and even if we just get used for leverage, that's eating anywhere from 3-5 million in extra cap space from a team that's in our division. If we land him, then clearly we should be excited, but if not, we made the cost of doing business that much higher for three division rivals.

Don't see how we lose getting involved.
IceColdBeer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The CLT, NC
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jun 29 @ 11:41 AM ET
Two of the three guys that hold $6M/yr should be but they have been reluctant to do so thus far, maybe that changes but they will have to plug their nose in order to get a deal done.
- BigStew



True. Their GM doesnt shy from trading big names - they need more depth
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jun 29 @ 11:41 AM ET
Two of the three guys that hold $6M/yr should be but they have been reluctant to do so thus far, maybe that changes but they will have to plug their nose in order to get a deal done.
- BigStew


Oilers only have $11.5m in cap space, so if they plan on signing Lucic and Deemers, they will need / want some of that space back. So I think they would have to trade at least one guy, most likely RNH, Hall, or Eberle. (since they are forward heavy)
buffalokb
Joined: 02.24.2011

Jun 29 @ 11:43 AM ET
sorry in advance that this post isn't taking pages and pages of discussion into account.

But I don't think Buffalo is getting Stamkos.

I think TM will offer a ton of money, and he will play for one of TBL, TOR, or maybe BOS/MTL.

And I think that's a fine outcome. We aren't desperate for a top-6 center, and even if we just get used for leverage, that's eating anywhere from 3-5 million in extra cap space from a team that's in our division. If we land him, then clearly we should be excited, but if not, we made the cost of doing business that much higher for three division rivals.

Don't see how we lose getting involved.

- nfph


Signing Vesey would stomach it a lot better that's for sure.
IceColdBeer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The CLT, NC
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jun 29 @ 11:44 AM ET
sorry in advance that this post isn't taking pages and pages of discussion into account.

But I don't think Buffalo is getting Stamkos.

I think TM will offer a ton of money, and he will play for one of TBL, TOR, or maybe BOS/MTL.

And I think that's a fine outcome. We aren't desperate for a top-6 center, and even if we just get used for leverage, that's eating anywhere from 3-5 million in extra cap space from a team that's in our division. If we land him, then clearly we should be excited, but if not, we made the cost of doing business that much higher for three division rivals.

Don't see how we lose getting involved.

- nfph


It's either DET or BUF at this point I would think, TBL lost their chance, all indications point to him not wanting to play for TOR but wants to be close. Star are aligned - just throw money at him - he'll make whatever holes we currently have seem much less glaring.
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jun 29 @ 11:44 AM ET
sorry in advance that this post isn't taking pages and pages of discussion into account.

But I don't think Buffalo is getting Stamkos.

I think TM will offer a ton of money, and he will play for one of TBL, TOR, or maybe BOS/MTL.

And I think that's a fine outcome. We aren't desperate for a top-6 center, and even if we just get used for leverage, that's eating anywhere from 3-5 million in extra cap space from a team that's in our division. If we land him, then clearly we should be excited, but if not, we made the cost of doing business that much higher for three division rivals.

Don't see how we lose getting involved.

- nfph


I think the outcome is fine either way (get Stamkos or not), but it will help us a lot to get him. We have to try though (as we know Murray is).

I know Murray lucked in the scenario, but before Murray we had 0 guys drafted in top 5, since Murray we have 4 and with Stamkos would be 5. Stanley Cup teams seem to have at least 3-4 of those type of players on them.
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