Impossible to speculate where Stammer is going at this point, but this whole situation looks, smells and feels very much like what happened with Babcock.

The scripts involving the Leafs, Sabres and the former team are almost identical so far.
- As_I_See_It

what

Impossible to speculate where Stammer is going at this point, but this whole situation looks, smells and feels very much like what happened with Babcock.

The scripts involving the Leafs, Sabres and the former team are almost identical so far.
- As_I_See_It

I wonder if it will end with the Leafs being the worst team in the league?

Impossible to speculate where Stammer is going at this point, but this whole situation looks, smells and feels very much like what happened with Babcock.

The scripts involving the Leafs, Sabres and the former team are almost identical so far.
- As_I_See_It

Yea.................. it really doesn't but thanks for playing.

Yea.................. it really doesn't but thanks for playing.
- SABRES 89

There's a lot of similarities so far, my friend.

Edit: From a hot commodity that rarely hits the market; To a few of the teams involved; To the way the media is hyping and driving this; To the Sabres making huge offers and those offers being leveraged; To the whole Leafs organization being silent on the matter.

As a Leafs fan I'm liking how this has played out so far.

And now there's this $3.5M marketing rumour out there?!?!

There's a lot of similarities so far, my friend.

From a hot commodity that rarely hits the market; To a few of the teams involved; To the way the media is hyping and driving this; To the Sabres making huge offers and those offers being leveraged...
- As_I_See_It

There are no similarities and if they are hyping any teams, it's not the Sabres they are hyping.

I bought the Ukrainian a very nice COUCH handbag on the streets of NYC when we were first dating.

Got a hell of a deal, too.
- Der Kaiser

There are no similarities and if they are hyping any teams, it's not the Sabres they are hyping.
- SABRES 89

Precisely. Pretty much the same thing that happened with the Babcock situation.

Precisely. Pretty much the same thing that happened with the Babcock situation.
- As_I_See_It

Still means nothing

Still means nothing
- SABRES 89

Perhaps, but it will be interesting to see if the end result is the same.

Stammer aside, Friday definitely has the potential for some serious fireworks.

Markinsons gone. There is no markinson.

Does the navy still hang people from yard arms?
- rover16

... and with your Harvard mouth extend me some (frank)ing courtesy, you gotta ask nicely.

If I were Tampa, I'd try to trade Stamkos (sign and trade with 8 years) along with Matt Carle for a mid round pick. Moving that cap would help them more than a 2nd round pick would short term. Then move focus to re-signing Hedman & Bishop.

Anything new

Identical? Babcock opted out of Detroit. Stamkos is being lowballed by his current team
- sbroads24

He only opted out because they wouldn't pay him enough. I wouldn't say Detroit lowballed him given coaches salaries before he signed his deal. Just that Toronto way overpaid and we would've right there as well had they not.

And I think Tampa is offering what they're able to offer given all the deals they need to make this year and next. Much like Detroit offered Babcock what they could afford to pay.

I still don't see how they're identical though. It's been well speculated that it was more Mrs. Babcock that chose Toronto over Buffalo. As far as I know Stamkos is single? They were talking about it on GR today, but you know how that goes...

If I were Tampa, I'd try to trade Stamkos (sign and trade with 8 years) along with Matt Carle for a mid round pick. Moving that cap would help them more than a 2nd round pick would short term.
- chilliard77

Why would Stammer waive his NMC and lose some of his leverage when he's 60hrs from free agency?

Secondly, how does the sign and trade work in terms of negotiation and TB compensation?

Did you see Yzerman's interview at the draft? The guy could barely answer half the question and looked lost and even defeated with regards to Stammer. I think Yzerman knows that he's (frank)ed himself.

If I were Tampa, I'd try to trade Stamkos (sign and trade with 8 years) along with Matt Carle for a mid round pick. Moving that cap would help them more than a 2nd round pick would short term. Then move focus to re-signing Hedman & Bishop.
- chilliard77

That could be interesting. They definitely need to make room and maybe that's the only way they can unload Carle.

God do I miss Loganberry (frank)

Why would Stammer waive his NMC and lose some of his leverage when he's 60hrs from free agency?

Secondly, how does the sign and trade work in terms of negotiation and TB compensation?

Did you see Yzerman's interview at the draft? The guy could barely answer half the question and looked lost and even defeated with regards to Stammer. I think Yzerman knows that he's (frank)ed himself.
- As_I_See_It

Don't use the head shaking emoji at me

This is just hypothetical if he were to waive. He would be doing Tampa Bay a huge favor.

Why would Stammer waive his NMC and lose some of his leverage when he's 60hrs from free agency?

Secondly, how does the sign and trade work in terms of negotiation and TB compensation?

Did you see Yzerman's interview at the draft? The guy could barely answer half the question and looked lost and even defeated with regards to Stammer. I think Yzerman knows that he's (frank)ed himself.
- As_I_See_It

He wouldn't. He'd negotiate the deal with the team trading for him. That's fairly common when a high profile player is traded with a year left on his deal and the team that wants him wants to sign him long term. Tampa just wouldn't give him a NMC for the first season of the deal. The old NMC is irrelevant the second he signs a new contract.

The compensation is the compensation. I'm not sure what you're asking.

God do I miss Loganberry (frank)
- GERBE!!!75PTS

I haven't had it in years but my memory of it is a sugary death.

I haven't had it in years but my memory of it is a sugary death.
- chilliard77

It's not as good as I remember it. They sell it at the stores around here. Crystal Beach Loganberry. I bought some last year. Was very disappointed.

As soon as you sign a contract it doesn't go league wide immediately. Tampa would send in the paperwork for an extension for Stamkos and right behind it in the fax order would be the trade. There'd be no time for other negotiations.

Edit: Yes, they still use faxes.

He wouldn't. He'd negotiate the deal with the team trading for him. That's fairly common when a high profile player is traded with a year left on his deal and the team that wants him wants to sign him long term. Tampa just wouldn't give him a NMC for the first season of the deal. The old NMC is irrelevant the second he signs a new contract.

The compensation is the compensation. I'm not sure what you're asking.
- Wetbandit1

Agreed but I don't see Stamkos screwing his new team with having to take a bad contract just to get an extra year. The guy is going to hit it big regardless of where he goes. And even if he signs a 7 year deal, he will be 33 when that deal is over. Who is to say he wouldn't cash in again. Maybe not as big as this contract but I would think he would still have value at that point.

It's not as good as I remember it. They sell it at the stores around here. Crystal Beach Loganberry. I bought some last year. Was very disappointed.
- Wetbandit1

Yeah my dad said they sold the old recipe when the owner died

He wouldn't. He'd negotiate the deal with the team trading for him. That's fairly common when a high profile player is traded with a year left on his deal and the team that wants him wants to sign him long term. Tampa just wouldn't give him a NMC for the first season of the deal. The old NMC is irrelevant the second he signs a new contract.

The compensation is the compensation. I'm not sure what you're asking.
- Wetbandit1

Or Stammer could sign a 1 year deal with his new team and immediately sign an 8 year extension that begins in 2017-2018 season, ultimately giving him 9 years in total... Not just the 8 from TB and without losing the assets needed to compensate TB.

It's not as good as I remember it. They sell it at the stores around here. Crystal Beach Loganberry. I bought some last year. Was very disappointed.
- Wetbandit1

I try to stay away from sugary drinks. Every now and then I'll get some cream soda in glass bottles, I pretty much refuse pop unless it's from a bottle. It's just better somehow lol. I really love raspberry iced tea, which realistically is just as bad though.