Stripes77
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey · 6m6 minutes ago
LeBrun: I really feel either Stamkos re-signs w/ #TBLightning, or it's #Leafs, #RedWings, or #Sabres. "To me, those are the big four."
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thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 03.08.2012
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Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey · 6m6 minutes ago
LeBrun: I really feel either Stamkos re-signs w/ #TBLightning, or it's #Leafs, #RedWings, or #Sabres. "To me, those are the big four." - Stripes77
If the Bolts will do a sign then trade, what do we think would be the piece(s) going back?
FWIW Rivet said a 2nd next year... I don't think that gets it done. |
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mhp
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD Joined: 01.14.2008
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Just found out i am playing in a uaw league as soon as i get off the plane - homiedclown
when you coming in and where is the league at? |
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Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: NY Joined: 06.18.2012
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If the Bolts will do a sign then trade, what do we think would be the piece(s) going back?
FWIW Rivet said a 2nd next year... I don't think that gets it done. - thatsapickle
Then the Bolts get nothing. They have almost zero leverage. |
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seedy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA Joined: 02.22.2007
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Then the Bolts get nothing. They have almost zero leverage. - Lilroot9
yeah. I dont understand why another team would let the Bolts negotiate their contract in this situation.
Just sign him yourself in 3 days.
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thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 03.08.2012
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yeah. I dont understand why another team would let the Bolts negotiate their contract in this situation.
Just sign him yourself in 3 days. - seedy
This gives Stamkos the 8th year, but to a team that cannot offer it. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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yeah. I dont understand why another team would let the Bolts negotiate their contract in this situation.
Just sign him yourself in 3 days. - seedy
Stamkos gets his 8th year and the Lightning don't lose him for "nothing" I would say a conditional 1st. It is a 2nd that can become a 1st if the Sabres win a playoff round |
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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY Joined: 11.04.2010
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yeah. I dont understand why another team would let the Bolts negotiate their contract in this situation.
Just sign him yourself in 3 days. - seedy
Lower AAV
You can go 7 years 84MM
or
8 years 84MM
Extra year for Stamkos, Saves cap space for the team. |
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fastek
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: CA Joined: 02.19.2016
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He has had 27, 26, and 21 goals in his past 3 years. Granted he is 32 years old and I agree I wouldn't want anything more than like 4.5M for 3 years MAX.... but he would still be a solid vet contributor here.
Especially if this team moves Kane (assuming we get Stamkos) Slot ROR on top LW and Backes on 2nd line RW next to Vesey and Eichel. Could be pretty. - JVince11
Wow ............ |
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MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Bay Area, CA Joined: 06.20.2012
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Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey · 6m6 minutes ago
LeBrun: I really feel either Stamkos re-signs w/ #TBLightning, or it's #Leafs, #RedWings, or #Sabres. "To me, those are the big four." - Stripes77
How many times are we going to hear the same thing over and over. He will go where he wants to go. Money will likely be the same from any suitor |
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fastek
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: CA Joined: 02.19.2016
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Pegula will not let this one get away. I cant wait to see the deal he actually signs. Pegula is dong the majority of the talking and negotiating on this one. it won't be because of $$ he doesn't sign with buffalo; if he doesn't sign - rinaldo
Ahh .............. I doubt that. |
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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK Joined: 07.13.2011
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Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey · 6m6 minutes ago
LeBrun: I really feel either Stamkos re-signs w/ #TBLightning, or it's #Leafs, #RedWings, or #Sabres. "To me, those are the big four." - Stripes77
I don't feel like this is any new information... RARRRWFSWLOBJREWOIBJEWOIRJB
Friday cannot come soon enough. |
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thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 03.08.2012
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How many times are we going to hear the same thing over and over. He will go where he wants to go. Money will likely be the same from any suitor - MCGUIZZY
at least a million more times until he signs. |
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fastek
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: CA Joined: 02.19.2016
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Then the Bolts get nothing. They have almost zero leverage. - Lilroot9
They've got plenty of leverage .............. I don't understand that assumption.
You get Stamkos without him hitting the market. It's a quite attractive option for Buffalo. |
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MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Bay Area, CA Joined: 06.20.2012
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at least a million more times until he signs. - thatsapickle
Approximately |
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thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 03.08.2012
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They've got plenty of leverage .............. I don't understand that assumption.
You get Stamkos without him hitting the market. It's a quite attractive option for Buffalo. - fastek
The only hesitation for the Bolts would be a team backing out of the deal. I'm sure there would have to be a firm deal in place that guarantees Stamkos will be going and the return is already defined (hopefully no more than a conditional pick). |
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Lower AAV
You can go 7 years 84MM
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8 years 84MM
Extra year for Stamkos, Saves cap space for the team. - ImThatGuy
Stammer doesn't agree to this.
If he's going 8 years, then he's getting paid for it, not taking the same bottom line. Your $84M figure becomes $96M... Same AAV. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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They've got plenty of leverage .............. I don't understand that assumption.
You get Stamkos without him hitting the market. It's a quite attractive option for Buffalo. - fastek
No, no they don't.
The only person who holds all the leverage is Stamkos.
That's it. Yzerman knows he screwed himself.
The only way Stamkos agrees to a sign and trade is if its with the team he wants to sign with.
Stamkos is already on the market. |
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They've got plenty of leverage .............. I don't understand that assumption.
You get Stamkos without him hitting the market. It's a quite attractive option for Buffalo. - fastek
Stammer also has a NMC until July 1.
Again, Yzerman/TB have next to no leverage. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Sabres to face the Wild in preseason at the Pegula Arena at Penn State on September 26th |
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Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK! Joined: 07.27.2007
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They've got plenty of leverage .............. I don't understand that assumption.
You get Stamkos without him hitting the market. It's a quite attractive option for Buffalo. - fastek
They have nothing. They can't do a sign and trade with a team Stamkos wont approve, so their only just ghost writing his negotiation with another team.
All they have as leverage with that team is the ability to add value, but only for three more days, and they get to ask to be paid something for those three days. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Stammer also has a NMC until July 1.
Again, Yzerman/TB have next to no leverage. - As_I_See_It
This...
The only "leverage" they hold is being able to offer Stamkos that 8th year to his next team. For a 2nd round pick they should take it. |
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Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK! Joined: 07.27.2007
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there is chatter
nothing more
nothing less - homiedclown
I was talking with the Shepherd and the Beagle. They said you got really drunk and something terrible happened to Little Sammy Watkins.
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thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 03.08.2012
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This...
The only "leverage" they hold is being able to offer Stamkos that 8th year to his next team. For a 2nd round pick they should take it. - Stripes77
All I can say is if Stamkos signs for anything less than 11M, I'll be very displeased.
With all of this talk, he better become the highest paid player or it's all been the biggest waste of time. |
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MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Lancaster, NY Joined: 07.17.2006
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Stammer doesn't agree to this.
If he's going 8 years, then he's getting paid for it, not taking the same bottom line. Your $84M figure becomes $96M... Same AAV. - As_I_See_It
Line 1: Tyler Ennis - Steven Stamkos - Ryan O'Reilly
Line 2: Samson Rienhart - Jack Eichel - Jimmy Vhesey
Line 3: Matt Moulson - David Backes - Marcus Foligno
Line 4: Nicolas Deslauriers - Zemgus Gergenson - Brian Gionta
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