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Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Jun 28 @ 9:23 PM ET
http://www.thescore.com/news/1051477
http://fansided.com/2016/...ing-deal-edmonton-oilers/
http://usa.shafaqna.com/EN/US/658165
http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...reached-agreement-oilers/
http://bigbadblog.weei.co...in-principle-with-oilers/

do I have to link more?

- martox

Maybe something more credible than bigbadblog or shafawhatthe(frank)? Jk. The deal is done but he's holding out for a better offer, but the Oilers are the only ones that can afford him so he is going to posture and pose for the next few days and he might squeeze a little more out of them but he will be an Oiler July 1.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 28 @ 9:24 PM ET
I doubt very much he hangs out at a 7/11, have you seen his gf? She's incredible and a fitness freak.
- Dcoms

How come every time people call out DP you bring up his GF? That has nothing to do with hockey. He had 34 straight, uninterrupted games to work through any and everything in 2014 without having to look behind his shoulder and he didn't progress much. This year he had a wide open roster spot and tanked the preseason. That's on no one but him. Rob Scuderi out played him in the preseason for crying out loud. All of our other young guys had to force their way into the lineup. Why can't Pouliot?

His success is important for the team next year, so I hope he gets it together, but I refuse to make excuses for him especially when the guys at DK don't have a very high opinion of him regarding his work ethic and attitude.
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Jun 28 @ 9:24 PM ET
It's just you. Others pretty much think he is a star in the making. You are asking them to trade their only competent Dman, and probably their second or third best player on the roster for Pittsburgh's backup goalie and a suspect that hasn't done jack crap in the pros? I expected better from you.
- Oneonta Penguin



YOU expect better from me? I dont agree with a damn thing you say ever, you're a turd all the time and your player evaluation is garbage. You shouldnt expect anything from me but disagreement.

I dont think Ristolainen is as fantastic as you do, I consider him on the level of Dumoulin and Maatta and a far drop from Letang. Also just because you call Fleury a backup doesnt make it so. Fleury is still a better goalie than Murray, and one of the better goalies in the league. Murray is competent, and our team defence is such that we can afford to trade our starter, but he has not proven to be better than Fleury.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Jun 28 @ 9:25 PM ET
No, the Dumo comment wasn't me.

Nope, if DP turns into a competent player, I will admit I was wrong. He has a long way to go to get to that stage. I will never say I liked him. Thought it was a joke we drafted him that high. For now, I laugh at those who thing he will be a star. He is a long way away from that.

Yep, thought trading for Schultz was dumb. BFD. I wasn't the only one.

- Oneonta Penguin

Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:28 PM ET
YOU expect better from me? I dont agree with a damn thing you say ever, you're a turd all the time and your player evaluation is garbage. You shouldnt expect anything from me but disagreement.

I dont think Ristolainen is as fantastic as you do, I consider him on the level of Dumoulin and Maatta and a far drop from Letang. Also just because you call Fleury a backup doesnt make it so. Fleury is still a better goalie than Murray, and one of the better goalies in the league. Murray is competent, and our team defence is such that we can afford to trade our starter, but he has not proven to be better than Fleury.

- stackthepads


You are embarrassing yourself with the Ristolainen comments. Don't care if you agree with me or not. It's the same crap with your customary excuses for Yuk failing in Edmonton. It's all on the organization and not on the player. I'm pretty sure most people who watch hockey games would laugh at your assessment on Risto. LOL ... constant excuses on Yuk and Risto is on par with Dumo tells me all I need to know about your player evals. and I think highly of Dumo. What next, DP is going to be a top 10 Dman in this league? Was that you or Dcoms?

Cute, comparing him to Letang. One is a 29 year old guy that has been around for a while. The other is 21 and basically doubled his point total from last year (82, 9-32-41). Pretty good for a 21 year old kid on D. Not saying he turns into Letang, but remind me ... what were Kris' numbers at 21 years old?
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 28 @ 9:32 PM ET
Never said Dumo's max was as a 7th Dman. Stop the lies. LOL ... yep, I made the comment when we got Kessel. That is too funny. There was no correlation or connection. Funny, saw Dumo play in college and loved his inclusion in the Staal deal.
- Oneonta Penguin

you actually did. I went and looked at old blogs. BUT you never said 7th d man was his max. you just said he was a 6th dman but saved it a couple of comments later by saying that he seems like a 6th dman SOMETIMES. but sry. no reason to draw people in the mud. unclassy by me.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Jun 28 @ 9:34 PM ET
How come every time people call out DP you bring up his GF? That has nothing to do with hockey. He had 34 straight, uninterrupted games to work through any and everything in 2014 without having to look behind his shoulder and he didn't progress much. This year he had a wide open roster spot and tanked the preseason. That's on no one but him. Rob Scuderi out played him in the preseason for crying out loud. All of our other young guys had to force their way into the lineup. Why can't Pouliot?

His success is important for the team next year, so I hope he gets it together, but I refuse to make excuses for him especially when the guys at DK don't have a very high opinion of him regarding his work ethic and attitude.

- Victoro311

This is literally the second time I have ever mentioned his gf. I only brought it up because guys with girls like that don't do loser $hit like hang out at 7/11. And who cares what the guys at DK say? Same guys that dumped on Despres. I don't agree he's gotten a fair chance. The first was playing for his old coach that was probably too hard on him and said things in the media. He needs a confidence booster. Rutherford seems to finally be planning to play him next season and we'll see. You guys wanna throw him away on every stupid pie in the sky trade they come up with. It annoys me because those same guys, next year at least this time , will be saying how they knew he was good all along. Sorry I know talent when I see it and I have been following his career for a long time now.
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 28 @ 9:34 PM ET
Maybe something more credible than bigbadblog or shafawhatthe(frank)? Jk. The deal is done but he's holding out for a better offer, but the Oilers are the only ones that can afford him so he is going to posture and pose for the next few days and he might squeeze a little more out of them but he will be an Oiler July 1.
- Dcoms

I hope he will be cuz I kinda cheer for the oilers. but I am a pessimist when it comes to rumors also I just searched on google. was to lazy to find it on twitter. but that sportsnet link is the best.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 28 @ 9:41 PM ET
This is literally the second time I have ever mentioned his gf. I only brought it up because guys with girls like that don't do loser $hit like hang out at 7/11. And who cares what the guys at DK say? Same guys that dumped on Despres. I don't agree he's gotten a fair chance. The first was playing for his old coach that was probably too hard on him and said things in the media. He needs a confidence booster. Rutherford seems to finally be planning to play him next season and we'll see. You guys wanna throw him away on every stupid pie in the sky trade they come up with. It annoys me because those same guys, next year at least this time , will be saying how they knew he was good all along. Sorry I know talent when I see it and I have been following his career for a long time now.
- Dcoms

Definitely have mentioned the girl friend plenty of times as a defense but what ever.

Yeah I definitely care what the guys close to the organization have to say that aren't troll jobs like Rossi and Madden. Djan is a DP hater, so I take what he says with a grain of salt, but Yohe is extremely diplomatic and he's said that DP is on the outs with management several times. This is been the same management that has given a lot of youngsters a fair shake recently, so that's a huge red flag.

This is a very important year for DP. We need him. All we can do with our cap space is sign a 7D. There won't be any Schultz to bail us out this time around if DP doesn't impress. If he can't crack the lineup over whoever we sign as a 7D, there's just no excuse at that point.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:44 PM ET
How come every time people call out DP you bring up his GF? That has nothing to do with hockey. He had 34 straight, uninterrupted games to work through any and everything in 2014 without having to look behind his shoulder and he didn't progress much. This year he had a wide open roster spot and tanked the preseason. That's on no one but him. Rob Scuderi out played him in the preseason for crying out loud. All of our other young guys had to force their way into the lineup. Why can't Pouliot?

His success is important for the team next year, so I hope he gets it together, but I refuse to make excuses for him especially when the guys at DK don't have a very high opinion of him regarding his work ethic and attitude.

- Victoro311


You can't speak of DP that way. Didn't you get the message? Fact is, people fail to hold players accountable. All they do is make excuses. Kid had a chance to make the roster out of camp and blew it. Rumors of his work ethic have been questioned. One thing we all can agree on, I hope, is 2016-17 is a make or break season for DP as a Penguin. With Lovejoy and Schultz essentially gone, he wins the sixth spot by default. If he sucks ... time to move on.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jun 28 @ 9:45 PM ET
Oneonta hates DP. No reason for that. He'll be fine.

Schultz is another player Oneonta hated and he did just fine.

Btw. I Love Daley and Cullen's games. Great Great players.
Hagelin and Bonino were key too.

Love our team as it is.
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Jun 28 @ 9:46 PM ET
You are embarrassing yourself with the Ristolainen comments. Don't care if you agree with me or not. It's the same crap with your customary excuses for Yuk failing in Edmonton. It's all on the organization and not on the player. I'm pretty sure most people who watch hockey games would laugh at your assessment on Risto. LOL ... constant excuses on Yuk and Risto is on par with Dumo tells me all I need to know about your player evals. and I think highly of Dumo. What next, DP is going to be a top 10 Dman in this league? Was that you or Dcoms?
- Oneonta Penguin



Ristolainen has played one season and you are anointing him king of the league. He looks to me like Maatta who after his first season people were calling him the next Lindstrom. Rookies regress all the time, hell Buffalo had the next greatest defenceman of all time not too long ago called Tyler Myers and he was never able to replicate his rookie season.

I through out a proposal as a half serious talking point and you jump in with your same tired "their GM will laugh at you, IM so damn smart" attitude. The problem with you is you dont know how to have a conversation with people because you have nothing to add but you love hearing yourself talk to much that you just tear down anything because you think it makes you sound smart.

Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 28 @ 9:49 PM ET
Ristolainen has played one season and you are anointing him king of the league. He looks to me like Maatta who after his first season people were calling him the next Lindstrom. Rookies regress all the time, hell Buffalo had the next greatest defenceman of all time not too long ago called Tyler Myers and he was never able to replicate his rookie season.

I through out a proposal as a half serious talking point and you jump in with your same tired "their GM will laugh at you, IM so damn smart" attitude. The problem with you is you dont know how to have a conversation with people because you have nothing to add but you love hearing yourself talk to much that you just tear down anything because you think it makes you sound smart.

- stackthepads

Ristolanen didn't have near the injury issues Maatta had that lead to his regression. Maatta will be back next year after a healthy offseason. Also Ristolainen was much more highly touted than Maatta was.

What exactly do you see in Ristolanen's game that you find such a big question mark?
T-Train
Joined: 06.20.2016

Jun 28 @ 9:49 PM ET
Can't we all just get along?

Hey, we won the Cup! We won the Cup! Yay!
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Jun 28 @ 9:52 PM ET
Definitely have mentioned the girl friend plenty of times as a defense but what ever.

Yeah I definitely care what the guys close to the organization have to say that aren't troll jobs like Rossi and Madden. Djan is a DP hater, so I take what he says with a grain of salt, but Yohe is extremely diplomatic and he's said that DP is on the outs with management several times. This is been the same management that has given a lot of youngsters a fair shake recently, so that's a huge red flag.

This is a very important year for DP. We need him. All we can do with our cap space is sign a 7D. There won't be any Schultz to bail us out this time around if DP doesn't impress. If he can't crack the lineup over whoever we sign as a 7D, there's just no excuse at that point.

- Victoro311



Im honestly not all that worried about our defence, I think because of the nature of our defensive system we can get away with lesser skilled dmen as long as they are fast and can move the puck reasonably well. Our defenders are never really on their own, the forwards are so good at getting back and providing support and outlets.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 28 @ 9:55 PM ET
Im honestly not all that worried about our defence, I think because of the nature of our defensive system we can get away with lesser skilled dmen as long as they are fast and can move the puck reasonably well. Our defenders are never really on their own, the forwards are so good at getting back and providing support and outlets.
- stackthepads

I'm not worried about our top 4 at all. The bottom pairing is question mark, but that's not the biggest deal all things considered. My issue is when injuries hit since our well is so dried on the blue line. I'd like to sign a couple of cheap vets to either carry on our roster or stash in WBS to A) push DP a bit so we're not just handing him the keys to the Porch, and B) insure against injuries.
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 28 @ 9:55 PM ET
Can't we all just get along?

Hey, we won the Cup! We won the Cup! Yay!

- T-Train

welcome to hockeybuzz pittsburgh penguins blog
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Jun 28 @ 9:56 PM ET
Ristolanen didn't have near the injury issues Maatta had that lead to his regression. Maatta will be back next year after a healthy offseason. Also Ristolainen was much more highly touted than Maatta was.

What exactly do you see in Ristolanen's game that you find such a big question mark?

- Victoro311



I dont see any question marks in his game, I think he is a fine defenceman definitely a top 4, probably a 2-3. I just dont see him ever being an all star dman, I bundle him in the category of Maatta, Dumo, Vatanen, Faulk, Tanev, Trouba all great dmen just not ever going to be game breakers like Letang, Doughty, Subban ect....
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 28 @ 9:58 PM ET
I dont see any question marks in his game, I think he is a fine defenceman definitely a top 4, probably a 2-3. I just dont see him ever being an all star dman, I bundle him in the category of Maatta, Dumo, Vatanen, Faulk, Tanev, Trouba all great dmen just not ever going to be game breakers like Letang, Doughty, Subban ect....
- stackthepads

Man Faulk too?...
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 28 @ 9:58 PM ET
Ristolanen didn't have near the injury issues Maatta had that lead to his regression. Maatta will be back next year after a healthy offseason. Also Ristolainen was much more highly touted than Maatta was.

What exactly do you see in Ristolanen's game that you find such a big question mark?

- Victoro311

ristolainen is the player maatta was before all his injuries.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 28 @ 10:00 PM ET
ristolainen is the player maatta was before all his injuries.
- martox

Risto is a much better skater than Maatta, which is really the only thing that hampers Maatta's NHL ceiling. Maatta could be a 1D if it wasn't for his foot speed.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 28 @ 10:03 PM ET
haha you guys are such Richards too each other for the pens being the (frank)ing stanley cup champions
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 28 @ 10:11 PM ET
I think DP will be just fine with Cole on the 3rd pairing. The problem is that I've heard from various blogs/tweets that they think he's not a very hard worker. Not sure if there's any truth to it, but the kid has shown some signs of being a dominant offensive dman, and other times a lazy, weak slug.
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 28 @ 10:15 PM ET
I think DP will be just fine with Cole on the 3rd pairing. The problem is that I've heard from various blogs/tweets that they think he's not a very hard worker. Not sure if there's any truth to it, but the kid has shown some signs of being a dominant offensive dman, and other times a lazy, weak slug.
- drummer829


I think with a year experience which should cut down on his really bad turnovers he will be a fine 3rd pairing guy. Maybe his laziness will keep him from fulfilling his potential of a 2/3 d, but his ability alone with some seasoning should be fine bottom pair.
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Jun 28 @ 10:26 PM ET
I think with a year experience which should cut down on his really bad turnovers he will be a fine 3rd pairing guy. Maybe his laziness will keep him from fulfilling his potential of a 2/3 d, but his ability alone with some seasoning should be fine bottom pair.
- sditulli


If he truly is a lazy player then he isnt going to do well in the NHL. Other players aren't going to put up with it and he will be ostracised. You think Crosby, Letang or even Cullen is going to be okay with him not putting in the effort?
Letang is the best dman on the team and he's in the gym 26 hours a day, if Pouliot doesnt think he needs to work as hard as Kris Letang than that's a problem.

I hope he puts in the work this summer, I would really like to see what that kid can do.
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