Rutherford said in a televised interview from day 2 of the draft that he was comfortable going into next season with
Dumoulin Letang
Maatta Daley
Pouliot Cole
He said one of the bottom pairing guys will have to play their off side. That will be just fine. They don't have cap space to re-sign Lovesuck and Shultz unless they dump Kunitz but it sounds like he likes his te and doesn't want to change anything.
- Dcoms

I'm not comfortable about one of those names. He needs to have a good number seven. Have a bad feeling that the guy I'm concerned about will disappoint.

Kunitz is fine for 1 more yr. Extending him was fine, but him and Dupes not so much. Then throw Scuds and it gets you the NJD GM job.

Cullen, might be fine for a 4C. I would not look to extend Bonino or Daley. They will ask for too much and will be too old.

I do agree with Malkin. They could have raked it in with his extension. Now they have a pt/game player for 60% of the season.
- sammy87

It's stupid to say right now you won't extend bonino or Daley. Both are good players.

Bonino is young enough you can offer him 4-5 years and he should be a quality player for most of the contract. Daley I wouldn't give term to as he was be in the upper 30's for some of the contract but if he good year next year I would re-up him for 2 years. Basically I absolutely resign both if the salary and term is reasonable.

I would also look to resign Kunitz after this year at 4th line costs. If he's willing I would offer him 1 year 1.5 on a rolling basis until he's no longer effective.

Someone mentioned Andrew Shaw. Yes his point production and analytics are below Kunitz but you visibly notice him in the game.

They'll find a dman, getting puljiarvi or however you spell it at the draft gives them the option of throwing Hall and Nuge in a deal.

Nuge + Hall for Subban, you gotta think thats too sweet to turn down. Or the same deal for Weber?
- stackthepads

Nuge doesn't bring a huge return IMO. 5 years at 6 million per for an oft injured, second line center that has played with good line mates and has a career year of 56 points. People overrate him because he is a former number one pick overall. He isn't that impactful. Hall, is.

If I'm Montreal, sure, they need some scoring, but their defense all the sudden ends up like Edmonton's is now, which is brutal.

It's stupid to say right now you won't extend bonino or Daley. Both are good players.

Bonino is young enough you can offer him 4-5 years and he should be a quality player for most of the contract. Daley I wouldn't give term to as he was be in the upper 30's for some of the contract but if he good year next year I would re-up him for 2 years. Basically I absolutely resign both if the salary and term is reasonable.

I would also look to resign Kunitz after this year at 4th line costs. If he's willing I would offer him 1 year 1.5 on a rolling basis until he's no longer effective.

Someone mentioned Andrew Shaw. Yes his point production and analytics are below Kunitz but you visibly notice him in the game.
- sditulli

Shaw at 3.9 million is a joke to me.

just to be clear....im not defending him....I just dont care all that much about off ice stuff as a hockey fan. Sure I think Patrick Kane is the worst kind of person, yet I would love to see him on Sid's wing.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

One of my favorite things about hockey (besides the fact that I just love the game) is that most of the players are so down to earth. Sure it has its bad apples, but most of the players seem to be respectable and humble. Most other sports it is just the opposite. The norm is that most players are irresponsible spoiled brats and you will get the occasional responsible player. I could never root for a player like Kane when I hear stories like this one where he grabs a woman by the throat and tried to force her into his car.

Nuge doesn't bring a huge return IMO. 5 years at 6 million per for an oft injured, second line center that has played with good line mates and has a career year of 56 points. People overrate him because he is a former number one pick overall. He isn't that impactful. Hall, is.
- Oneonta Penguin

RNH and Eberle are way overrated.

I like Draistl and Hall. MCD is the future of that club until he's a UFA. No way they keep all those guys much longer, they need D desperately and guys that play in the dirty areas. Too many pretty boys on that team.

One of my favorite things about hockey (besides the fact that I just love the game) is that most of the players are so down to earth. Sure it has its bad apples, but most of the players seem to be respectable and humble. Most other sports it is just the opposite. The norm is that most players are irresponsible spoiled brats and you will get the occasional responsible player. I could never root for a player like Kane when I hear stories like this one where he grabs a woman by the throat and tried to force her into his car.
- jrmjames67

Do you watch the NFL at all?

So since the reaction on this board wasn't as bad as I thought, I posed the same Fleury for E. Kane deal to Buffalo fans. And half of them said yes and the other half said they no thinking they can win with Lehner.

I know some of never want to see that guy on the Penguins but I think we have the right leadership and disciplinary coach now...I wouldn't worry too much about baggage.

And it sure beats trading Fleury for a pick and then signing a mediocre free agent to big money (imo)
- YouMeAndDupuis9

I would be open-minded to a Kane for fleury swap. I have a feeling that is a mid-season trade. Thing with E Kane is the police reports are actually scaring me on him. It doesn't seem like normal drunk idiot behavior.

His contract is reasonable. A little concerning he's never played a full season but he's certainly the true top 6 guy that would give us 3 #1 lines.

Problem is if he rapes some chick in Pittsburgh you suddenly have town-gown issues for the Penguins. P Kane at least kept his antics out of Chicago.

RNH and Eberle are way overrated.

I like Draistl and Hall. MCD is the future of that club until he's a UFA. No way they keep all those guys much longer, they need D desperately and guys that play in the dirty areas. Too many pretty boys on that team.
- sammy87

Without question.

I would be open-minded to a Kane for fleury swap. I have a feeling that is a mid-season trade. Thing with E Kane is the police reports are actually scaring me on him. It doesn't seem like normal drunk idiot behavior.

His contract is reasonable. A little concerning he's never played a full season but he's certainly the true top 6 guy that would give us 3 #1 lines.

Problem is if he rapes some chick in Pittsburgh you suddenly have town-gown issues for the Penguins. P Kane at least kept his antics out of Chicago.
- sditulli

Sounds like you aren't as open minded as you say you are. There is nothing positive about Evander Kane here. Not questioning his talent, but he is a turd and very well has a better chance landing in jail.

Shaw at 3.9 million is a joke to me.
- Oneonta Penguin

Blackhawks made a good call trading him. I think he's legitimately a 2.5-3 player but his value is inflated because he's a playoff hero.

Nuge doesn't bring a huge return IMO. 5 years at 6 million per for an oft injured, second line center that has played with good line mates and has a career year of 56 points. People overrate him because he is a former number one pick overall. He isn't that impactful. Hall, is.

If I'm Montreal, sure, they need some scoring, but their defense all the sudden ends up like Edmonton's is now, which is brutal.
- Oneonta Penguin

I agree with Nuge, he's over paid by about a mil, but there are plenty of teams where he is better than anything they've got. Montreal happens to be one of those teams, Nashville has a pretty big drop off from Johanssen, Nuge would be a nice fit on their second line.
Hall is a beast, you could argue that Hall alone should be enough for someone like Subban or Weber.

RNH and Eberle are way overrated.

I like Draistl and Hall. MCD is the future of that club until he's a UFA. No way they keep all those guys much longer, they need D desperately and guys that play in the dirty areas. Too many pretty boys on that team.
- sammy87

Only issue with mcdvid is he's going to kill their cap sooner rather than later. He will be at 10-14 once he is off elc. Don't get me wrong he's definitely worth it. Teams are willing to pay stamkos 10-12. For the player of his generation there will be teams willing to offer sheet him at 12 and pay 4-1sts. I could see a team like the Rangers coming in and heavily front loading deal with 17-18 the first few years to make it as difficult as possible to match.

I agree with Nuge, he's over paid by about a mil, but there are plenty of teams where he is better than anything they've got. Montreal happens to be one of those teams, Nashville has a pretty big drop off from Johanssen, Nuge would be a nice fit on their second line.
Hall is a beast, you could argue that Hall alone should be enough for someone like Subban or Weber.
- stackthepads

I like Hall as a player very much, but I wouldn't trade Weber straight up for him. No chance. At least Nashville has extra Dmen ... Montreal ... they don't have any other competent Dmen aside from Subban.

Nashville does have D coming out their wazzoo. Hell, it drafted Fabbro in the first round, another Dman. I think their second pick was a Dman too.

Would love to get Rasmus Ristolainen out of Buffalo. Wonder if they would go for a Fleury + Pouliot for Lehner + Ristolainen.

RNH and Eberle are way overrated.

I like Draistl and Hall. MCD is the future of that club until he's a UFA. No way they keep all those guys much longer, they need D desperately and guys that play in the dirty areas. Too many pretty boys on that team.
- sammy87

I wouldn't say Eberle is overated. He averages 28 goals and 64 pts over 82 games over his career. That's pretty good production for todays game

I'm not comfortable about one of those names. He needs to have a good number seven. Have a bad feeling that the guy I'm concerned about will disappoint.
- Oneonta Penguin

My opinion on this is to thru the Penguins lineups for the last 5-6 years. I don't think their are many years we had
A) top 4 locked down in June
B) A guy better than pouliot as a 6d and certainly never anyone with his upside.

Last year we had Brian dumoulin starting in our top 4. He started the year with less than 20 NHL games to his name

Would love to get Rasmus Ristolainen out of Buffalo. Wonder if they would go for a Fleury + Pouliot for Lehner + Ristolainen.
- stackthepads

Why would Buffalo even entertain this?

Why would Buffalo even entertain this?
- Oneonta Penguin

Because we asked nicely? It isnt like Ristolainen is some super game changer, Fleury is a massive upgrade over Lehner, and Pouliot has the potential to be a better dman than Risto.

Do you watch the NFL at all?
- sammy87

Casually when it's on, but I have trouble getting into it because of how the players are.

I like Hall as a player very much, but I wouldn't trade Weber straight up for him. No chance. At least Nashville has extra Dmen ... Montreal ... they don't have any other competent Dmen aside from Subban.

Nashville does have D coming out their wazzoo. Hell, it drafted Fabbro in the first round, another Dman. I think their second pick was a Dman too.
- Oneonta Penguin

Look at their contracts. The trade would be highway robbery for Nashville. And I think hall might be a better player now.

Would you rather have weber signed for 10 more year at 8 until he's 40 or hall for 4 more years until he's 28.

They'll find a dman, getting puljiarvi or however you spell it at the draft gives them the option of throwing Hall and Nuge in a deal.

Nuge + Hall for Subban, you gotta think thats too sweet to turn down. Or the same deal for Weber?
- stackthepads

Time machine to when we had a super deep defensive farm system so we could trade Maatta for Hall.

In seriousness...whoever made that initial post listed like 8 star forwards and didnt even mention Yakupov. No doubt he is available....but they probably want a defensive prospect.

Look at their contracts. The trade would be highway robbery for Nashville. And I think hall might be a better player now.

Would you rather have weber signed for 10 more year at 8 until he's 40 or hall for 4 more years until he's 28.
- sditulli

If I'm Nashville Im trying real hard to rip off the Oilers in a Weber deal.

So, trading for a problem child that is due to make 5.25 for the next two years is the answer? I'm betting the half that said yes, were thinking moreso to get rid of a problem child that could wind up in jail.

I would rather have a pick than trade for a punk like Evander Kane. This is a no.
- Oneonta Penguin

Yea, I know. It's crazy and I won't blame anyone for that opinion.

Actually I take that back on the weber contract. It's impossible to evaluate. The over 35 salaries are small and the cap hits high. The first few years Nashville was paying him 15/year. The cash costs are sunk and already paid so trading him now would be kind of stupid.

There's a bit of an oddity at the end of the contract. If your 1 million in cash but running a 8/year hit at 37. If he's still effective then would be odd playing for such a low salary when u could just retire.