He wasn't non tendered, he was scheduled to be a UFA.

The thing with Gagner is, he pretty much is what he is. Guys like Pirri, Connolly, they haven't had the NHL experience Gagner has. They still can potentially grow and take more steps.
- Jsaquella

I understand he is UFA...just saying its pretty much his spot thats up for grabs with that list

I get what youre saying I just have my doubts with some of them

I can't fathom why Recchi isn't in; gotta believe he'll get the call one day. That one is kind of a head-scratcher, to me -- I don't think you even have to be a fan of the player to wonder what's up with that. Not sure what else he was supposed to do -- maybe you didn't have to actively game-plan for him, but that dude was as effective as any other Hall of Famer I have seen

I personally thought Alexander Mogilny was the caliber of player and productive enough to be a Hall of Famer, especially since when he came, it wasn't as easy for Russians to cross the pond; others can certainly disagree. People forget that 20-plus years ago, there was a very real Russian bias, especially when it came to compensation. Mogilny fought for salaries that were in line with other elite players and, like some Russians, would not back down. He would sit before he would take less money, and that wasn't always viewed favorably

Liked Brind'Amour as a player...not sure I ever saw him as that caliber of player though. Others can disagree there, as well

Bill,

Whats you opinion on Weal? I feel like he is Akeson 2.0 and I get this feeling that the Flyers would prefer guys that play a, not to be cliché, 200ft game like Leier or Bardreau if push came to shove for a roster spot?

Does Weal have to significantly out play for example Leier, to earn a spot?
- J35Bacher

I think he is a better player than Akeson. However, I also think he's another AHL/NHL tweener.

Brian Burke actually announced that at a season ticket holder event that Colborne could ask for $3.6m and they weren't going to be stuck with that kind of number.
- Feanor

Teams can walk away from it and end up with a similar result they got by non-tendering the guy

I understand he is UFA...just saying its pretty much his spot thats up for grabs with that list

I get what youre saying I just have my doubts with some of them
- YuenglingJagr

I have doubts on all of them, but a one year show me something deal isn't a huge risk, plus-in most cases-it gives you RFA rights next summer

It's pretty comical that the two guys Washington traded Filip Forsberg for are no longer with the team. Meanwhile, Forsberg just signed long term in Nashville.
- TobyFlenderson

Really the most comical thing about it was their giant trade announcment/press conference thing

and it was like...wait you traded your best prospect for Martin Erat?

and then...he went on to score 1 goal in 53 games...really it was a beautiful trainwreck

Schenn surely noticed the contract Shaw, his fellow soon to be 25 years old RFA , just got. 6 years at $3.9m.

He wasn't non tendered, he was scheduled to be a UFA.

The thing with Gagner is, he pretty much is what he is. Guys like Pirri, Connolly, they haven't had the NHL experience Gagner has. They still can potentially grow and take more steps.
- Jsaquella

Connolly doesn't seem to be able to score goals at the NHL-level.

Schenn surely noticed the contract Shaw, his fellow soon to be 25 years old RFA , just got. 6 years at $3.9m.
- Feanor

I've felt, from the day it was signed, that Nazem Kadri's deal would be the comparison for Schenn

Schenn surely noticed the contract Shaw, his fellow soon to be 25 years old RFA , just got. 6 years at $3.9m.
- Feanor

I think Schenn's camp noticed the Forsberg deal. 6 years at 36 million.

Connolly doesn't seem to be able to score goals at the NHL-level.
- Tomahawk

No, but he's been a solid player otherwise. Could be a solid bottom or middle six option.

I'm not looking at 3 or 4 years on any of these guys. One year, show me deals.

Teams can walk away from it and end up with a similar result they got by non-tendering the guy
- Jsaquella

Teams can't walk away from an award of $3.9m or less. It was $3.5m, but has gone up alongside the league's average salary.

http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/538417

The decision of the arbitrator is binding, although teams can walk away from an award in excess of $3.5 million if the salary arbitration hearing was player-elected (note: that $3.5 million figure is adjusted annually by the same percentage as the increase in average league salary, so the walk away limit is probably several $100,000 higher than $3.5 million this time around).

Clubs cannot walk away from a salary arbitration hearing they've elected.

I think Schenn's camp noticed the Forsberg deal. 6 years at 36 million.
- J35Bacher

If he wants that much, I hope he enjoys his new team.

Teams can't walk away from an award of $3.9m or less. It was $3.5m, but has gone up alongside the league's average salary.

http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/538417
- Feanor

Oh crap, that's right. I forgot that mimimum award aspect.

I've felt, from the day it was signed, that Nazem Kadri's deal would be the comparison for Schenn
- Jsaquella

No question in my mind.

I think Schenn's camp noticed the Forsberg deal. 6 years at 36 million.
- J35Bacher

Schenn wasn't a 60 point scorer at age 20 and 21.

Pirri, Brett Connolly, Jon Merrill and Joe Colborne interest me among the non-tendered. I guess you could toss Latta into that group.
- Jsaquella

I like Colbourne

I have doubts on all of them, but a one year show me something deal isn't a huge risk, plus-in most cases-it gives you RFA rights next summer
- Jsaquella

That's the thing.

They all didn't get QO so they are pretty much looking at show me deals. Same boat as Del Zotto when he didn't get QO from Nashville

That's the thing.

They all didn't get QO so they are pretty much looking at show me deals. Same boat as Del Zotto when he didn't get QO from Nashville
- J35Bacher

just because they were given QO doesnt mean teams wont resign them

I've felt, from the day it was signed, that Nazem Kadri's deal would be the comparison for Schenn
- Jsaquella

That's a good comp. Maybe Schenn takes 5 x $4.75m which lets him become a UFA at age 30.

I think anything up to 5 x $5m is fair value.

That's a good comp. Maybe Schenn takes 5 x $4.75m which lets him become a UFA at age 30.

I think anything up to 5 x $5m is fair value.
- Feanor

That's the high end I'd be willing to consider. Much more than that, and I'd rather deal him than have a deal that could end up a regretful one.

Sometimes I hate that finances trumps what the player does on the ice.

Schenn wasn't a 60 point scorer at age 20 and 21.
- Feanor

They are going to look at recently signed deals. Both guys just scored 30 goals. Both were probably the teams best forwards. (yes you could argue that Schenn was one of the Flyers top forwards.) Both RFA.

If I am the agent that deal is where I am starting. I know the RFA leverage the Flyers have but I am not settling for much less at all. Especially with so many teams looking for scoring, Flyers included.

They are going to look at recently signed deals. Both guys just scored 30 goals. Both were probably the teams best forwards. (yes you could argue that Schenn was one of the Flyers top forwards.) Both RFA.

If I am the agent that deal is where I am starting. I know the RFA leverage the Flyers have but I am not settling for much less at all. Especially with so many teams looking for scoring, Flyers included.
- J35Bacher

hold it right there

just because they were given QO doesnt mean teams wont resign them
- YuenglingJagr

they very well could.

hold it right there
- YuenglingJagr

SOrry.

Schenn 26 Forsebrg 33.

My fault.