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Mr_Smokey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.02.2008

Jun 28 @ 10:30 AM ET
Percy was underwhelming and they probably had no takers as a throw in in whatever trades they're cooking up.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:30 AM ET
I think the jury is out on Sharp in Dallas. He landed on a good team.
- Aaron_85


Ladd and Byuf did rather well imo. Saad too.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:31 AM ET
a new coach is in order?
- zazzle


I wouldn't be against that at all.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 28 @ 10:32 AM ET
Ladd and Byuf did rather well imo. Saad too.
- systemtool


Yeah not their fault the teams around them suck ass.

I was worried about Saad but he showed up in Columbus and shut me up
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 28 @ 10:32 AM ET
I think the jury is out on Sharp in Dallas. He landed on a good team.
- Aaron_85


He's also probably the best player that has been moved from the teams. Definitely in a different class to guys like Shaw, Bolland, Brouwer, Bickell, Versteeg etc
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:32 AM ET
I wouldn't be against that at all.
- Scabeh


As long as parlez vous francaise?
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 28 @ 10:32 AM ET
With Hossa on his last legs, I think their winning days are about over.
- AdamFrench


Interestingly, the Hossa contract may be easy enough to trade to a shiiit team like Arizona - that needs to get to the cap floor. He is 37 and has a cap hit of $5.275 million a year for five years - sounds like the worst type of cap jail right? But he signed a front loaded contract before the rules were changed, so his salary is only $4 million this year, and $1 million for the last four, even though the cap hit is $5.275 for five years. A first, a second, Hossa for a used jock strap and they get a get out of jail card.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jun 28 @ 10:33 AM ET
As long as parlez vous francaise?
- systemtool


This won't be an issue until the PQ begins another revival.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:33 AM ET
I agree, the markets are quite similar. The language issue, can get in the way of progress for Montreal. In the sense that there is a need to hire Francophone coaches and managers to appease the fan base. Toronto has enjoyed financial success, despite missing the playoffs 10 times in the past 11 years. I am not so sure that Montreal would sellout every game under similar circumstances. Shanahan made a significant change by spending serious money on management and scouting. The management team currently employed - for me is better than any the Leafs have ever had. I am confident they are on their way to be a really strong franchise again. With the Habs, I think they need to rebuild. One of the biggest obstacles will be approval from the fan base to rebuild. Just making the playoffs or just missing the playoffs - should never be the goal. Elite offense is usually gained by drafting at or near the top ten - Bergevin had a chance to get Edmonton's fourth, I think it was a mistake to pass it up.
- winsix


I agree with alot of this... not everything but it's a well thought out opinion.
Tanooki
Location: Professional propagandist, Val D’or
Joined: 06.28.2016

Jun 28 @ 10:33 AM ET
As long as parlez vous francaise?
- systemtool

i hope his name is Guy...
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 28 @ 10:34 AM ET
Interestingly, the Hossa contract may be easy enough to trade to a shiiit team like Arizona - that needs to get to the cap floor. He is 37 and has a cap hit of $5.275 million a year - sounds like the worst type of cap jail right? But he signed a front loaded contract before the rules were changed, so his salary is only $4 million this year, and $1 million for the last four, even though the cap hit is $5.275 for five years. A first, a second, Hossa for a used jock strap and they get a get out of jail card.
- winsix


If he retires though the Hawks still get a cap penalty I believe. They'd have to hope that he takes a spot on Robidas island until the end of his contract...
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 28 @ 10:34 AM ET
Interestingly, the Hossa contract may be easy enough to trade to a shiiit team like Arizona - that needs to get to the cap floor. He is 37 and has a cap hit of $5.275 million a year - sounds like the worst type of cap jail right? But he signed a front loaded contract before the rules were changed, so his salary is only $4 million this year, and $1 million for the last four, even though the cap hit is $5.275 for five years. A first, a second, Hossa for a used jock strap and they get a get out of jail card.
- winsix

Could see the Devils going for that. Only hitting the Cap Floor because of Clowe's contract (that is being paid by insurance and not the team) and Savard's contract
Tanooki
Location: Professional propagandist, Val D’or
Joined: 06.28.2016

Jun 28 @ 10:34 AM ET
This won't be an issue until the PQ begins another revival.
- TheMussel

Dude.. Quebexit is next!!
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jun 28 @ 10:35 AM ET
Dude.. Quebexit is next!!
- Tanooki


If so then I hope Ontario is ready for the influx of anglo-quebecers and original Ontarian refugees.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:36 AM ET
He's also probably the best player that has been moved from the teams. Definitely in a different class to guys like Shaw, Bolland, Brouwer, Bickell, Versteeg etc
- lumlums


I think Byuf was the best. Sharp Ladd and Saad too. All 4 in the class above the jabronis you mentioned
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:36 AM ET
As long as parlez vous francaise?
- systemtool


I, for one, do not care what language the coach speaks.

Hell even journalists who were god damn ashamed of Jacques Martin being replaced by Cunneyworth and how it was insensitive to the fan base to have a coach who doesn't speak french have all mentionned how Kirk Muller could be the next head coach of the Habs if somehow the team starts the season on a losing streak.

I think they just used the french thing because Cunneyworth was a terrible coach... if he had been winning or turned things around, people would have loved it.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 28 @ 10:37 AM ET
Interestingly, the Hossa contract may be easy enough to trade to a shiiit team like Arizona - that needs to get to the cap floor. He is 37 and has a cap hit of $5.275 million a year - sounds like the worst type of cap jail right? But he signed a front loaded contract before the rules were changed, so his salary is only $4 million this year, and $1 million for the last four, even though the cap hit is $5.275 for five years. A first, a second, Hossa for a used jock strap and they get a get out of jail card.
- winsix
It shouldn't even take that much. Look at how easy it was for DET to move Datsyuk's contract. They didn't give up much at all.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:38 AM ET
I think Byuf was the best. Sharp Ladd and Saad too. All 4 in the class above the jabronis you mentioned
- systemtool


JURY IS OUT ON SHAW!!
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jun 28 @ 10:38 AM ET
James Fink
‏@BfloBizJimFink
A growing buzz in some NHL circles that high profile FAs (Babcock last year) and Stamkos are using Sabres as a 'leverage' for better deals
Tanooki
Location: Professional propagandist, Val D’or
Joined: 06.28.2016

Jun 28 @ 10:39 AM ET
If so then I hope Ontario is ready for the influx of anglo-quebecers and original Ontarian refugees.
- TheMussel

If they speak english they assimilate fine.. Just send them to places like Cassleman and Rockland where everyone already speaks french and kick out the frenchies..
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jun 28 @ 10:40 AM ET
If they speak english they assimilate fine.. Just send them to places like Cassleman and Rockland where everyone already speaks french and kick out the frenchies..
- Tanooki


That's a bit xenophobic idn't it
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 28 @ 10:40 AM ET
Interestingly, the Hossa contract may be easy enough to trade to a shiiit team like Arizona - that needs to get to the cap floor. He is 37 and has a cap hit of $5.275 million a year for five years - sounds like the worst type of cap jail right? But he signed a front loaded contract before the rules were changed, so his salary is only $4 million this year, and $1 million for the last four, even though the cap hit is $5.275 for five years. A first, a second, Hossa for a used jock strap and they get a get out of jail card.
- winsix


Not really. Interesting fact I learned recently. The way the cap circumventing penalties work, Chicago would be crazy to trade him.

The longer he stays a hawk, the lower the penalty gets if he retires early. If they trade him today, the penalty will not be reduced from today’s amount if he retires early. If that makes sense…

Makes the Luongo trade a ticking time bomb for the canucks.
Tanooki
Location: Professional propagandist, Val D’or
Joined: 06.28.2016

Jun 28 @ 10:40 AM ET
I, for one, do not care what language the coach speaks.

Hell even journalists who were god damn ashamed of Jacques Martin being replaced by Cunneyworth and how it was insensitive to the fan base to have a coach who doesn't speak french have all mentionned how Kirk Muller could be the next head coach of the Habs if somehow the team starts the season on a losing streak.

I think they just used the french thing because Cunneyworth was a terrible coach... if he had been winning or turned things around, people would have loved it.

- Scabeh

oh they freak out about all the language issues..

remember Pay-Ka gate?
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 28 @ 10:41 AM ET
If he retires though the Hawks still get a cap penalty I believe. They'd have to hope that he takes a spot on Robidas island until the end of his contract...
- lumlums


Would it be the full hit? Wouldn't a trade move the penalty? Pronger and Horton were traded.
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 28 @ 10:41 AM ET
James Fink
‏@BfloBizJimFink
A growing buzz in some NHL circles that high profile FAs (Babcock last year) and Stamkos are using Sabres as a 'leverage' for better deals

- TheMussel

Buffalo Journalist

Poor little babys
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