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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:07 PM ET
I know this will go over well here lol.. If you look on VanCity buzz page or daily hive like it's called now. There's a Higgins buyout article. Somebody posted a picture of what looks like Lucic walking into Canucks offices
- MaWLz



Cool that we're both getting our home town guys this summer.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:09 PM ET
Yes they do...A_SL, did you go to a u-pick farm or your own plants.
- Makita

GF's, and she wont make me a pie, so I want to do something that will make her really jealous. I'm a real troll.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 27 @ 9:10 PM ET
GF's, and she wont make me a pie, so I want to do something that will make her really jealous. I'm a real troll.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Wine or beer?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:12 PM ET
Marwood is this pie any good?


A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:14 PM ET
Raspberry Nanaimo bars wood drive her nuts.

MaWLz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Langley , BC
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:19 PM ET
I think that was a screen shot from the hunchback of Notre Dame.
- fiveandagame

Don't insult the hunchback of notre dame like that
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:22 PM ET
GF's, and she wont make me a pie, so I want to do something that will make her really jealous. I'm a real troll.
- A_SteamingLombardi


I've have a bad dairy allergy but the Mrs. will make this and it's really good.

1½ cups (250g) frozen Raspberries
1 cup (200 ml) full fat Coconut Cream from 1 can of coconut milk (See Notes)
4 teaspoons Maple Syrup (optional)
up to ⅓ of a cup Coconut Water (from the can of coconut milk)

Place frozen raspberries, coconut cream, and maple syrup (if desired) in a high powered blender or food processor.
Add coconut water, a tablespoon at a time, if blender has trouble blending ingredients. Do not exceed more than ⅓ of a cup Coconut Water.
Serve immediately or store in freezer for up to 2 weeks.

Notes
1) Follow these step on how to make coconut cream. Refrigerate a can of coconut milk overnight. Carefully open the can. The coconut milk will have separated into a thick white coconut cream and coconut water. Scoop out the coconut cream to use for this raspberry coconut ice cream and use the remaining water if needed.
2) It is crucial to not use more than ⅓ of a cup of coconut water. The more coconut water you add the softer your ice cream will get and you won't be able to scoop it. Try to use as little as needed. If it is a bit to soft. Place it in the freezer for a few minutes until it hardens enough to scoop.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 27 @ 9:24 PM ET
Corey Hirsch , PJ Stock and Glenn Healy all let go of their duties
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:25 PM ET
Corey Hirsch , PJ Stock and Glenn Healy all let go of their duties
- VANTEL

Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Jun 27 @ 9:26 PM ET
The best rant I have read today. Posted on Canucks Army..

Several of the Minnesota blogs describe the Vanek buyout as an "embarrassment" for Chuck Fletcher especially since the savings are reportedly being used to resign bottom six forwards like Stoll. Despite having declining numbers offensively most of what I've read suggest he remains an extremely valuable two-way player. He was the fourth most productive forward for the Wild during his time there and seventh best defensively. Did he underperform relative to his contract? Probably. But it isn't fair to describe him out of hand as the porous liability you are suggesting. Regardless, I don't want the Canucks to sign him, I just think he's much better than you're saying.

I would have a question though JD -- we've heard ad nauseum from writers here that the Canucks should go with a full rebuild rather than a retool and I get that. But you all keep talking about the desire for gate (especially playoff) revenue as if the ownership is so miserly and so stupid for wanting it. Let me be clear -- I have no great liking for the Aquilinis and in fact they kind of sound like jerks. But I have no problem with them wanting to treat their business like, well, a business. It's easy to talk the talk of tear-downs and rebuilds when you're playing with someone else's money -- in the real world you still have to pay salaries of athletes, coaches, staff, rents, etc. The salary cap is a game but we're not the ones who paid Higgins and Prust millions last year to go to Utica and then had to pay others to take their place. I have yet to see any evidence that an actual designed tank works. The one that's taking place in Toronto now is the only one that I have actually seen openly orchestrated (76ers in the NBA as well though that cost the GM his job and the league stepped in when it became too obvious and an embarrassment). Why has it become so fashionable to embrace a strategy that has never been proven successful? I don't mean just sucking for a bunch of years and then getting some good draft picks. We've seen teams tank for a specific player (Lemieux, Crosby, McDavid) but an out-and-out multi-year rebuild is something that only the Leafs I've seen really try (getting rid of most of the actual NHL talent or taking on rental players to flip for picks at the deadline) and being open with their fanbase that they will suck along the way. And you can do that with the Leafs and their diehard fanbase. Is there a single other one in the league that can afford to do that? Montreal probably, maybe the Alberta teams but I doubt it for Winnipeg, Vancouver and Ottawa. None of the American teams can. Even the ones that have been successful beyond all expectation (Nashville for example) are still an oddity and their success is directly proportional to their on-ice performance. If I was the NHL I'd be deeply concerned with the mismanagement of the Blue Jackets -- racking up the third highest payroll for the fifth worst results (not to mention passing up a franchise player for a positional need!). Do you think the Florida clubs can afford to tank after the days of their superstars are done?

So perhaps in your analysis of the direction of the club you could be a little bit more realistic as to what running a sports franchise looks like and all the variables that are necessary to take into account. Gate revenue shouldn't be such a dirty word. We could be in far worse shape if we were one of the internal cap teams.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jun 27 @ 9:27 PM ET
Corey Hirsch , PJ Stock and Glenn Healy all let go of their duties
- VANTEL



MaWLz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Langley , BC
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:27 PM ET
Corey Hirsch , PJ Stock and Glenn Healy all let go of their duties
- VANTEL

Literally the greatest thing I've ever heard.. That's better then signing Stamkos
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Jun 27 @ 9:27 PM ET
Corey Hirsch , PJ Stock and Glenn Healy all let go of their duties
- VANTEL

hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 27 @ 9:41 PM ET
Literally the greatest thing I've ever heard.. That's better then signing Stamkos
- MaWLz


I liked Hirsch, he was a bit goofy but wasn't so much mainstream.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:44 PM ET
Corey Hirsch , PJ Stock and Glenn Healy all let go of their duties
- VANTEL


Best news ever to appear on HB

dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:45 PM ET
I liked Hirsch, he was a bit goofy but wasn't so much mainstream.
- hillbillydeluxe


i enjoyed his facial expressions (usually of disgust) when other's were talking or making a point he disagreed with.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 27 @ 9:51 PM ET
i enjoyed his facial expressions (usually of disgust) when other's were talking or making a point he disagreed with.
- dbot


he was genuine.

I caught a moment of Bob McCown talking on his show this afternoon with Cox ( who I don't care for) and I thought he said Strombo was canned because he wouldn't conform which I thought was odd because I thought he was hired to relate to a younger audience and bring in a different demographic...

almost like hiring a guy like Howard Stern and getting upset when he does his own thing. nuts.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 27 @ 10:00 PM ET
Literally the greatest thing I've ever heard.. That's better then signing Stamkos
- MaWLz

LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:04 PM ET
Leah Hextall turfed too.
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 27 @ 10:06 PM ET
The best rant I have read today. Posted on Canucks Army..

Several of the Minnesota blogs describe the Vanek buyout as an "embarrassment" for Chuck Fletcher especially since the savings are reportedly being used to resign bottom six forwards like Stoll. Despite having declining numbers offensively most of what I've read suggest he remains an extremely valuable two-way player. He was the fourth most productive forward for the Wild during his time there and seventh best defensively. Did he underperform relative to his contract? Probably. But it isn't fair to describe him out of hand as the porous liability you are suggesting. Regardless, I don't want the Canucks to sign him, I just think he's much better than you're saying.

I would have a question though JD -- we've heard ad nauseum from writers here that the Canucks should go with a full rebuild rather than a retool and I get that. But you all keep talking about the desire for gate (especially playoff) revenue as if the ownership is so miserly and so stupid for wanting it. Let me be clear -- I have no great liking for the Aquilinis and in fact they kind of sound like jerks. But I have no problem with them wanting to treat their business like, well, a business. It's easy to talk the talk of tear-downs and rebuilds when you're playing with someone else's money -- in the real world you still have to pay salaries of athletes, coaches, staff, rents, etc. The salary cap is a game but we're not the ones who paid Higgins and Prust millions last year to go to Utica and then had to pay others to take their place. I have yet to see any evidence that an actual designed tank works. The one that's taking place in Toronto now is the only one that I have actually seen openly orchestrated (76ers in the NBA as well though that cost the GM his job and the league stepped in when it became too obvious and an embarrassment). Why has it become so fashionable to embrace a strategy that has never been proven successful? I don't mean just sucking for a bunch of years and then getting some good draft picks. We've seen teams tank for a specific player (Lemieux, Crosby, McDavid) but an out-and-out multi-year rebuild is something that only the Leafs I've seen really try (getting rid of most of the actual NHL talent or taking on rental players to flip for picks at the deadline) and being open with their fanbase that they will suck along the way. And you can do that with the Leafs and their diehard fanbase. Is there a single other one in the league that can afford to do that? Montreal probably, maybe the Alberta teams but I doubt it for Winnipeg, Vancouver and Ottawa. None of the American teams can. Even the ones that have been successful beyond all expectation (Nashville for example) are still an oddity and their success is directly proportional to their on-ice performance. If I was the NHL I'd be deeply concerned with the mismanagement of the Blue Jackets -- racking up the third highest payroll for the fifth worst results (not to mention passing up a franchise player for a positional need!). Do you think the Florida clubs can afford to tank after the days of their superstars are done?

So perhaps in your analysis of the direction of the club you could be a little bit more realistic as to what running a sports franchise looks like and all the variables that are necessary to take into account. Gate revenue shouldn't be such a dirty word. We could be in far worse shape if we were one of the internal cap teams.

- Linden_4_Capt


Interesting read. Thanks for sharing.

Although, I am slowly realizing that long posts get ignored. Not many care to read long paragraphs. They are more entertained by the constant trolling.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:10 PM ET
Good sign and trades at TDL
- VANTEL



at best. Landon can be useful. Brett sure smells like a bust. There's a joke in there somewhere...
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:20 PM ET
still catching up. But

Vanek: If we paid of his gambling debts, would it count against the cap?

Helm: How many 3rd and 4th liners do we need?

Vey: I heard a 1040 inside mention he thinks Europe would be a good option for him. Get away from the spotlight for awhile. But, then maybe he gets lost over there and never gets another NHL shot. Tough call. All the best to him.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 10:23 PM ET
still catching up. But

Vanek: If we paid of his gambling debts, would it count against the cap?

Helm: How many 3rd and 4th liners do we need?

Vey: I heard a 1040 inside mention he thinks Europe would be a good option for him. Get away from the spotlight for awhile. But, then maybe he gets lost over there and never gets another NHL shot. Tough call. All the best to him.

- storm88



i agree with this. unless some of Etem, Hansen, Burrows, Dorsett, Granlund are moved, do we really need another?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 27 @ 10:30 PM ET
Vey on not being tendered;

It's okay for JB to be wrong, it was early in his tenure. Do the math on all his deals before you throw him under the bus.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 27 @ 10:33 PM ET
Corey Hirsch , PJ Stock and Glenn Healy all let go of their duties
- VANTEL


All were shyte
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