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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 27 @ 6:41 PM ET
The reason I look at Vanek , cheap and short term.
- VANTEL

Cheap for one season maybe but a huge risk…super high maintenance guy...
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 6:41 PM ET
i get the feeling that there is going to be a lot of 1 year contracts handed out this year
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 27 @ 6:43 PM ET
Cheap for one season maybe but a huge risk…super high maintenance guy...
- LordHumungous

Yeah one or two much better than 6
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 27 @ 6:45 PM ET
This is really tempting . Vanek 3 years 3 mil per. Helm 3 x2.5 per. Connolly and Ferarro 1x1.5 . Let them battle it out at camp.
- VANTEL


I agree, the cost factor wouldn't be overly significant but the returns could be substantial. Helm certainly has the wheels and hockey sense and might even thrive with an expanded role (not sure if Detroit has ever used him in situations other than PK). If Vanek could return to any sort of form and get 20 goals, it would be well worth the nominal risk involved. And Connolly (6th overall pick only five years ago - I also didn't realize that he is a homegrown lad) and Ferarro are still young so the jury is out as to what type of player they will become.
the end
Location: CA
Joined: 02.02.2009

Jun 27 @ 6:46 PM ET
Colborne not qualified by Flames ....
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 27 @ 6:47 PM ET
Ben Kuzma ‏@benkuzma · 4m4 minutes ago

Can now confirm RFAs Pedan, Grenier and Zalewski have received qualifying offers. Vey was not tendered an offer. #Canucks

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 27 @ 6:51 PM ET
Colborne not qualified by Flames ....
- the end

dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 6:51 PM ET

- VANTEL


A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 27 @ 6:52 PM ET
Farhan gets his hockey info from HockeyBuzz.
- Marwood

dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 6:52 PM ET
Ben Kuzma ‏@benkuzma · 4m4 minutes ago

Can now confirm RFAs Pedan, Grenier and Zalewski have received qualifying offers. Vey was not tendered an offer. #Canucks

- hillbillydeluxe


bit surprised that Grenier and Zalewski were qualified and taking up a contract spot.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 27 @ 6:54 PM ET
Ben Kuzma ‏@benkuzma · 4m4 minutes ago

Can now confirm RFAs Pedan, Grenier and Zalewski have received qualifying offers. Vey was not tendered an offer. #Canucks

- hillbillydeluxe

He didn't earn a raise, they will sign him for 250-300K less.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 27 @ 6:55 PM ET
Colborne not qualified by Flames ....
- the end


that's quite surprising - he scored 19 goals last year and, from what I saw, was a decent enough player. Another guy I think the Canucks should look at if he is in fact available
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 27 @ 6:56 PM ET
bit surprised that Grenier and Zalewski were qualified and taking up a contract spot.
- dbot

We're still only at 40 contracts when those guys sign.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 6:58 PM ET
We're still only at 40 contracts when those guys sign.
- A_SteamingLombardi


ah. cool.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 27 @ 6:58 PM ET
that's quite surprising - he scored 19 goals last year and, from what I saw, was a decent enough player. Another guy I think the Canucks should look at if he is in fact available
- Zogg

The Leafs will sign him so they can trade him at TDL.
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 27 @ 6:58 PM ET
I agree, the cost factor wouldn't be overly significant but the returns could be substantial. Helm certainly has the wheels and hockey sense and might even thrive with an expanded role (not sure if Detroit has ever used him in situations other than PK). If Vanek could return to any sort of form and get 20 goals, it would be well worth the nominal risk involved. And Connolly (6th overall pick only five years ago - I also didn't realize that he is a homegrown lad) and Ferarro are still young so the jury is out as to what type of player they will become.
- Zogg


I'm on the Brandon Pirri train. I'd rather offer him a contract if the ducks don't extend him than Connolly or Ferraro, the guy can score goals, period.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 6:58 PM ET
that's quite surprising - he scored 19 goals last year and, from what I saw, was a decent enough player. Another guy I think the Canucks should look at if he is in fact available
- Zogg


pass.
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 27 @ 6:59 PM ET
He didn't earn a raise, they will sign him for 250-300K less.
- A_SteamingLombardi

hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 27 @ 7:04 PM ET
He didn't earn a raise, they will sign him for 250-300K less.
- A_SteamingLombardi


I'm not against resigning him to a lesser 2 way contract.

damn that Etem contract is reasonable.
we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Don't hate me because I'm really really ridiculously good looking.
Joined: 09.29.2007

Jun 27 @ 7:04 PM ET
Interesting line up prediction from Nuck's Misconduct...

Based on what I think Benning WILL do, rather than what I would do:

- Sign Loui Eriksson, 6 years, $5.75m AAV
- Sign Emerson Etem, 2 years, $950k
- Sign Andrey Pedan, 1 year, $900k
- Sign Matt Martin, 3 years, $3.3m AAV
- Buyout Chris Higgins
- Demote Jake Virtanen

Daniel-Henrik-Eriksson
Baertschi-Sutter-Hansen
Martin-Horvat-Etem
Burrows-Granlund-Dorsett
Gaunce

Edler-Tanev
Hutton-Gudbranson
Pedan-Tryamkin
Sbisa-Biega

Miller-Markstrom

Cap Hit: $72.052m, including Higgins buyout, overages and Luongo retention.

Issues here: Martin will surely be coveted by all 30 teams; Eriksson may want more $ (although with just shy of $1m left, we could do that); it gives us less options the following summer (Miller and Burrows coming off the books allows for the increases for Horvat, Gudbranson and others); no Linden Vey signing (surely that will happen).

by Azzy Mahmood on Jun 27, 2016 |
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 27 @ 7:05 PM ET
I'm not against resigning him to a lesser 2 way contract.

damn that Etem contract is reasonable.

- hillbillydeluxe

That's what I'm expecting for Vey.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 27 @ 7:06 PM ET
Interesting line up prediction from Nuck's Misconduct...

Based on what I think Benning WILL do, rather than what I would do:

- Sign Loui Eriksson, 6 years, $5.75m AAV
- Sign Emerson Etem, 2 years, $950k
- Sign Andrey Pedan, 1 year, $900k
- Sign Matt Martin, 3 years, $3.3m AAV
- Buyout Chris Higgins
- Demote Jake Virtanen

Daniel-Henrik-Eriksson
Baertschi-Sutter-Hansen
Martin-Horvat-Etem
Burrows-Granlund-Dorsett
Gaunce

Edler-Tanev
Hutton-Gudbranson
Pedan-Tryamkin
Sbisa-Biega

Miller-Markstrom

Cap Hit: $72.052m, including Higgins buyout, overages and Luongo retention.

Issues here: Martin will surely be coveted by all 30 teams; Eriksson may want more $ (although with just shy of $1m left, we could do that); it gives us less options the following summer (Miller and Burrows coming off the books allows for the increases for Horvat, Gudbranson and others); no Linden Vey signing (surely that will happen).

by Azzy Mahmood on Jun 27, 2016 |

- we_are_all_canucks

2-3 years to long.
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 27 @ 7:11 PM ET
2-3 years to long.
- A_SteamingLombardi


I don't really even want anyone that is 30 years old. I understand being competitive but 6 years for Erikksson means he would be 37 at the end of that. (frank) that poop
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 27 @ 7:11 PM ET
Interesting line up prediction from Nuck's Misconduct...

Based on what I think Benning WILL do, rather than what I would do:

- Sign Loui Eriksson, 6 years, $5.75m AAV
- Sign Emerson Etem, 2 years, $950k
- Sign Andrey Pedan, 1 year, $900k
- Sign Matt Martin, 3 years, $3.3m AAV
- Buyout Chris Higgins
- Demote Jake Virtanen

Daniel-Henrik-Eriksson
Baertschi-Sutter-Hansen
Martin-Horvat-Etem
Burrows-Granlund-Dorsett
Gaunce

Edler-Tanev
Hutton-Gudbranson
Pedan-Tryamkin
Sbisa-Biega

Miller-Markstrom

Cap Hit: $72.052m, including Higgins buyout, overages and Luongo retention.

Issues here: Martin will surely be coveted by all 30 teams; Eriksson may want more $ (although with just shy of $1m left, we could do that); it gives us less options the following summer (Miller and Burrows coming off the books allows for the increases for Horvat, Gudbranson and others); no Linden Vey signing (surely that will happen).

by Azzy Mahmood on Jun 27, 2016 |

- we_are_all_canucks


Martin is strictly a one dimensional type player and I think you are over rating him as well as the perception of other teams. I don't think he'll be getting that kind of money - even Dorsett (who is basically Vancouver's version of Martin, plays more of an all around game than Martin) is receiving much less than that amount.
we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Don't hate me because I'm really really ridiculously good looking.
Joined: 09.29.2007

Jun 27 @ 7:16 PM ET
Martin is strictly a one dimensional type player and I think you are over rating him as well as the perception of other teams. I don't think he'll be getting that kind of money - even Dorsett (who is basically Vancouver's version of Martin, plays more of an all around game than Martin) is receiving much less than that amount.
- Zogg

Just to clarify, this is Nuck's Misconduct list. I just thought it was likely more realistic than some of the scenarios posted in this thread.

My preference would be to sign a shorter term agreement with a good 2 way player like Frans Nielsen. We aren't really competitive enough to commit to a long term free agent IMHO.
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