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IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 28 @ 8:24 AM ET
Yup.

Or even someone younger than Okposo like Hoffman

Nash
Hoffman
Marleau
Steen

- sbroads24

if we can get Hoffman i would do it..
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 28 @ 8:25 AM ET
Anyone heard anything about Fowler? Are we still in on him?
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 28 @ 8:26 AM ET
with as little as we have in the way of prospects i don't think we can afford to do that. just ride it out
- IndianaSabresFan

Shaw got 3.9 I think Okposo is worth 4 or someplace in that area but not 6 from what I was reading. I'm sure a team will give him 6
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 28 @ 8:26 AM ET
Anyone heard anything about Fowler? Are we still in on him?
- Cup Crazy '07

I doubt it at this point. Unless they move Gorges and have McCabe on the 3rd pair.

bmhumby
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Work
Joined: 08.11.2009

Jun 28 @ 8:28 AM ET
Shaw got 3.9 I think Okposo is worth 4 or someplace in that area but not 6 from what I was reading. I'm sure a team will give him 6
- SABRES 89


I was hearing upwards of 7-7.5M... which is insane. But that's what free agency does. Once the big fish signs, people will turn their attention to the next best and that guy usually gets seriously overpaid.
SABRES 89
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Jun 28 @ 8:29 AM ET
I was hearing upwards of 7-7.5M... which is insane. But that's what free agency does. Once the big fish signs, people will turn their attention to the next best and that guy usually gets seriously overpaid.
- bmhumby

I didn't see anything about 7 but I did read 6 for sure, he isn't worth close to any of those numbers.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 28 @ 8:33 AM ET
just so you guys know aardvark was given a day off for his constant chirping to you guys

and since i gave him a warning and not a ban yesterday i gave all the sabres fans who came to the leafs thread passes this time as well

fair is fair

but thats the freebie... for both sides

cheers

- Dozzer


Thanks Dozzer.
SABRES 89
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Jun 28 @ 8:34 AM ET
I'd like to have Shattenkirk our D looks a little weak.
bmhumby
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Work
Joined: 08.11.2009

Jun 28 @ 8:35 AM ET
I didn't see anything about 7 but I did read 6 for sure, he isn't worth close to any of those numbers.
- SABRES 89


100% agree, but you know.... Leino was a thing
bobmack13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

Jun 28 @ 8:36 AM ET
Anyone concerned that Risto doesn't have a contract yet? I figured that he would have been a priority.
Havic3814
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Albany, NY
Joined: 08.25.2011

Jun 28 @ 8:38 AM ET


Seems like i missed some fun yesterday, I would ask about Gerbe's pic...but im just going to let that go.

And Shattenkirk would be nice do we have enough to get him without giving up something we really don't wanna?
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 28 @ 8:38 AM ET
I'd like to have Shattenkirk our D looks a little weak.
- SABRES 89

i agree.. they need to upgrade back there..
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 8:38 AM ET
Yup.

Or even someone younger than Okposo like Hoffman

Nash
Hoffman
Marleau
Steen

- sbroads24


You think Hoffman is going to have a big(ger) cap hit but for a short term on his upcoming deal? I highly doubtful considering his production and his age.

I understand the hesitation on giving Okposo north of $6M for a long term, but he is only 28, and his production has been very strong the past 3 seasons.

Does everyone believe his production is going to fall off a cliff when he doesn't play with Tavares? If Eichel is who we all think he is, it should remain the same.

Based on his last 3 years, he is absolutely worth $6M per for 5 years, which would pay him until he is 34, based on the way salaries are going and his last 3 years production.
jzabawaj
Buffalo Sabres
Location: $12 million is too much, NY
Joined: 06.24.2008

Jun 28 @ 8:38 AM ET
I'd like to have Shattenkirk our D looks a little weak.
- SABRES 89

I don't think we can afford him (prospects/players) at this point. If the rumors are true on what STL put on his price tag.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 28 @ 8:42 AM ET
You think Hoffman is going to have a big(ger) cap hit but for a short term on his upcoming deal? I highly doubtful considering his production and his age.

I understand the hesitation on giving Okposo north of $6M for a long term, but he is only 28, and his production has been very strong the past 3 seasons.

Does everyone believe his production is going to fall off a cliff when he doesn't play with Tavares? If Eichel is who we all think he is, it should remain the same.

Based on his last 3 years, he is absolutely worth $6M per for 5 years, which would pay him until he is 34, based on the way salaries are going and his last 3 years production.

- kingcong39

No, but he won't get 6.5- 7mil as an RFA. He also is two years younger than Okposo and has been able to generate offense without an elite center.

Okposo has put up impressive numbers, and he won't fall off a cliff with Eichel, but you could get similar production via trade IMO for a shorter commitment
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 28 @ 8:42 AM ET
A consistent 60+ point free agent is gonna get paid and paid well. He's still got 3-4 good years left. His possession numbers are actually pretty good and he consistently makes his team mates better when he's on the ice. I don't know why the guy gets so much hate.

Granted, I'm the guy who hated ROR with a passion, mostly because of his off ice crap. So I'm not one to talk.

He's a good player still and deserves what he gets on the overpayment market.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 28 @ 8:42 AM ET
Anyone concerned that Risto doesn't have a contract yet? I figured that he would have been a priority.
- bobmack13


I think they're focused on a few other things right now. Murray did mention that they've had some conversations so it's probably just a matter of time.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 28 @ 8:43 AM ET
Anyone concerned that Risto doesn't have a contract yet? I figured that he would have been a priority.
- bobmack13


Not even close.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 28 @ 8:44 AM ET
Draft->Qualify RFAs->Trades/Free Agency->RFAs Negotiations
Havic3814
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Albany, NY
Joined: 08.25.2011

Jun 28 @ 8:44 AM ET
I think they're focused on a few other things right now. Murray did mention that they've had some conversations so it's probably just a matter of time.
- HonkFortheGoose



They were sure to toss him and others out qualifying offers last night just to do that I'm sure once they figure out what's going on with the "Big Fish" they will take care of it
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 28 @ 8:44 AM ET
100% agree, but you know.... Leino was a thing
- bmhumby


Leino was a reach and a prayer, and everyone knew it.
SABRES 89
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Jun 28 @ 8:46 AM ET
i agree.. they need to upgrade back there..
- IndianaSabresFan

I would have offered the 8th pick, Girgensons + for him. Girgensons could have replaced Backus. I'm sure that wouldn't be enough.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 28 @ 8:46 AM ET
I don't think we can afford him (prospects/players) at this point. If the rumors are true on what STL put on his price tag.
- jzabawaj


That price tag is understandably massive. It'll come down though. Would be a great trade deadline acquisition, or a sign n trade or trade n sign piece prior to the expansion draft
SABRES 89
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Jun 28 @ 8:47 AM ET
Leino was a reach and a prayer, and everyone knew it.
- TheSabresTaco

Good Ol' Darcy, he was never in on Richards at all, Leino was his target all along. Signing Leino, extending Connolly, what a complete waste.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
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Jun 28 @ 8:48 AM ET
No, but he won't get 6.5- 7mil as an RFA. He also is two years younger than Okposo and has been able to generate offense without an elite center.

Okposo has put up impressive numbers, and he won't fall off a cliff with Eichel, but you could get similar production via trade IMO for a shorter commitment

- sbroads24


Okposo has played the majority of his minutes with Frans Nielson.
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