Are the Blues crazy enough to think Shattenkirk is a young Al Macinnis or something of that caliber? If so, wow...to ask for Larkin is just insane.

In regards to Eric Lindros, I still don't believe he should be in the HOF. If anything, I'm of the opinion that Chris Osgood deserves to be in the HOF before Lindros.

Lindros:
Games Played: 760
Goals: 372
Assists: 493
Points: 865
Awards: 1 Hart Trophy & 1 Pearson Award

Osgood:
Wins: 401
Playoff Wins: 74 (More than Jacques Plante)
Cups: 3 (1 Game 7 away from 4 in 09)
Career GAA: 2.49
Career SV%: .905
Awards: 2 Jennings Trophies

Yes, I know this is going to be a constant debate as it always seems to be, but the stats are along the lines of the Mike Vernon's, Curtis Joseph's, & Tom Barrasso's of the world, but with more accomplishments to go with it. Heck, Datsyuk has 918 career points, and I don't think he should be in the HOF.

Am I bias? Sure...that's a fair assessment since I saw him play quite a bit, but even still...Ozzie should get in before Lindros for doing more during a career''s time.
- Hockeytown4life

you are arguing that Chris Osgood, a good but certainly not great starting goalie, was a more impactful player than Eric Lindros, who for a good stretch of years was the most dominant, physical force the league has maybe ever seen? bias aside, that is absolutely batpoop insane.

If stamkos wants an 8-year deal, he has to sign it before july 1.

I can’t imagine is agent will allow that opportunity to be missed if TB is his choice.
- Tumbleweed

I know Toronto fans point out how much money he could make via endorsements in Toronot and how that would over come the tax situation but has anyone mentioned how much more pressure would be on him Toronto? and I'm NOT talking about hockey or winning!! I'm talking about appearances, Charities, events, hospital visits, political events....the list would go on and on!! he would be bugged more in Toronto than any other city to give up his spare time. It's something I would consider in his shoes but thats just me and I'm fairly lazy.

What exactly did he dominate, per say? He has nothing to show for it other than a Hart Trophy, which even Jose Theodore won in his career, doesn't qualify him right off the bat for the HOF.

His "domination" was four 40 goal seasons (heck, Tony Amonte had 3 of those and 35 more career points), that's it. 97 was the furthest his team ever went, and was swept, so to truly dominate, you have to have something to show for it other than goals and one MVP trophy, in my opinion.
- Hockeytown4life

Amonte played 400+ games more than Lindros.

Lindros put up 860 points in 760 games in an era where scoring was plummeting. you are talking about a guy who, had he not run into injury problems, would have gone down as a legend.

No, what doesn't make any sense is at this point in the free agency clock for Stamkos to sign an extension now without knowing what else is out there. Only way he was signing early or earlier was Bolts matching Toews/Kane deals which they don't seem willing and/or able to do. So now Stamkos, who in many does absolutely want to stay, plays a waiting game of sorts to find out just how big the difference in the Bolts offer vs his free agency offer(s) and whether that difference is enough to make him leave.
- uf1910

This makes total sense!

Although nobody other than Stamkos knows exactly what is going on in his mind I imagine he is just waiting for July 1st for the huge offers to roll in and then, with big offers in hand will give Tampa one last crack at it. One would think the easiest thing to do is re sign with Tampa but he needs the other offers as leverage to get the best deal.

This makes total sense!

Although nobody other than Stamkos knows exactly what is going on in his mind I imagine he is just waiting for July 1st for the huge offers to roll in and then, with big offers in hand will give Tampa one last crack at it. One would think the easiest thing to do is re sign with Tampa but he needs the other offers as leverage to get the best deal.
- justmike

i'd love to see him accept like a 2 year deal from the Coyotes or something

Car
- magmoo

Cah

i'd love to see him accept like a 2 year deal from the Coyotes or something
- DoubleDown

Yeah I wonder how many people would see that coming.

Is there a link for today's buzz?

Lindros should absolutely be in the Hall.

Right next to Bonnie Lindros' hairstylist from 1991.

i'd love to see him accept like a 2 year deal from the Coyotes or something
- DoubleDown

Datsyuk and Stammer together...scary combo

Datsyuk and Stammer together...scary combo
- uf1910

don't forget pronger

Are the Blues crazy enough to think Shattenkirk is a young Al Macinnis or something of that caliber? If so, wow...to ask for Larkin is just insane.

In regards to Eric Lindros, I still don't believe he should be in the HOF. If anything, I'm of the opinion that Chris Osgood deserves to be in the HOF before Lindros.

Lindros:
Games Played: 760
Goals: 372
Assists: 493
Points: 865
Awards: 1 Hart Trophy & 1 Pearson Award

Osgood:
Wins: 401
Playoff Wins: 74 (More than Jacques Plante)
Cups: 3 (1 Game 7 away from 4 in 09)
Career GAA: 2.49
Career SV%: .905
Awards: 2 Jennings Trophies

Yes, I know this is going to be a constant debate as it always seems to be, but the stats are along the lines of the Mike Vernon's, Curtis Joseph's, & Tom Barrasso's of the world, but with more accomplishments to go with it. Heck, Datsyuk has 918 career points, and I don't think he should be in the HOF.

Am I bias? Sure...that's a fair assessment since I saw him play quite a bit, but even still...Ozzie should get in before Lindros for doing more during a career''s time.
- Hockeytown4life

Osgood had an amazing team in front him. It is a big reason for most of his accomplisments. I would not put him in the category of great goaltender because he never was. All the goalies you mentioned weren't really great. CuJo is actually the best of that bunch there and even I don't think he should be in the HOF. Lindros definetly deserves it though look at his numbers. HOF is there to celebrate the individual for the most part. The only place his name should be is on those stanley cups and that's more than enough recognition the guy should get in the HOF. NHL needs to start raising there standards for the HOF. There are a lot of good players but very few great players and I thought the HOF was for greats

don't forget pronger
- Tumbleweed

Protecting the stars...what a mix of players to a great team

2 top 6 RW and a top 10 pick for a good young D, a castover and a 2nd rounder.

Edmonton will never make that deal.
- Habsody

I heard on TSN 1290 last week, that sometimes a team may have to trade some bonafide stars to create the best TEAM. With the asking price the Oilers fans and people here on hockeybuzz are asking for, it would be impossible to trade with them.

Remember when the Avalanche won the Stanley Cup in 96, they traded away all their 1st overall picks to do it. None of (Nolan, Sundin and Lindros remained).

Osgood had an amazing team in front him. It is a big reason for most of his accomplisments. I would not put him in the category of great goaltender because he never was. All the goalies you mentioned weren't really great. CuJo is actually the best of that bunch there and even I don't think he should be in the HOF. Lindros definetly deserves it though look at his numbers. HOF is there to celebrate the individual for the most part. The only place his name should be is on those stanley cups and that's more than enough recognition the guy should get in the HOF. NHL needs to start raising there standards for the HOF. There are a lot of good players but very few great players and I thought the HOF was for greats
- bmoney411

Granted, the 98 team was on a mission to go Back to Back for Vladdy, but to fill in for Vernon after 97, had to be tough. Also, in 08 he wasn't even the starter until game 5 of the 1st round vs the Preds, and proceeded to carry them the rest of the way.

Granted, the 98 team was on a mission to go Back to Back for Vladdy, but to fill in for Vernon after 97, had to be tough. Also, in 08 he wasn't even the starter until game 5 of the 1st round vs the Preds, and proceeded to carry them the rest of the way.
- Hockeytown4life

not a hall of famer

not a hall of famer
- Fountain-San

You're a hall of famer in my mind.

You're a hall of famer in my mind.
- glove_was_stuck

and you as well. lets nominate one another?

I dont think its "insulting" but i definitely disagree, gordie howe was a better player than lindros,

Im on the fence about him being in, had he played more games i believe he would be an open and shut case, just in and no questions

he certainly killed it in the games he played, but i think the issue is, i dont think other players with the similar stature should be in either and it should be a harder to get in for everyone

cam neely and pavel bure being in makes it hard to argue why lindros shouldnt be, or osgood really?

My Opinion is that none of them should be, cam Neely or Pavel Bure shouldnt, nor should Lindros
- digitalbath

I think over the full body of work, there is no question that Howe was the better player when it was all said and done. Looking strictly at their peak years, comparing them to their peers at the time (cause you just can't look at points due to the differences in ERA's), I would say they were very comparable players. Both elite skill and physical bullies on the ice. Howe was able to do it for much longer than Lindros at a high level so he is without a doubt the better player.

They shouldn't let Lindros into the hall until Quebec gets a team

Doubt they're out of it after July 1st either. It's perfectly reasonable to believe he will see what the other offers are, and then resign with TB anyway. It's not like the bolts are likely to pull their offer for him as soon as it hits July.
- oldstyle

I don't think so - I think he knows exactly what is out there (I don't believe for a second he hasn't indirectly spoken to hockey teams).....that is why come July 1st, if not signed, he knows where he is going and it's not TB IMO.

The Blues don't have to move Shattenkirk as he still has another year left on his contract......

The Blues don't have to move Shattenkirk as he still has another year left on his contract......
- Blues65

so what do you move him at the deadline when you're still in the playoff picture or better yet a legit team that can do damage in the playoffs?

let him walk for nothing?

or sign him for 7 + 7 that he's going to want?

now is the time to move him.

They shouldn't let Lindros into the hall until Quebec gets a team
- Cfser

LOL

Osgood had an amazing team in front him. It is a big reason for most of his accomplisments. I would not put him in the category of great goaltender because he never was. All the goalies you mentioned weren't really great. CuJo is actually the best of that bunch there and even I don't think he should be in the HOF. Lindros definetly deserves it though look at his numbers. HOF is there to celebrate the individual for the most part. The only place his name should be is on those stanley cups and that's more than enough recognition the guy should get in the HOF. NHL needs to start raising there standards for the HOF. There are a lot of good players but very few great players and I thought the HOF was for greats
- bmoney411

absolutely ridiculous. it doesn't matter if they had great teams in front of them. the numbers they put up plus the longevity of their careers speak for themselves. Also, hockey is a team sport and not every elite player wins a cup ex. Cam Neely.

there have also been some horse sh!t hockey players to win the cup. CuJo and Osgood both deserve to be in, their numbers are among the all-time elite.