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BorjeFan4Ever
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Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
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Jun 27 @ 3:56 PM ET
Might be me but I would slow down on matthews a bit. It is most probable the kid comes to the show and struggles at times on a basement team and scores 40-50 pts.

Nylander is interesting. He put up decent numbers in limited time at the NHL level, and dominated the AHL. He will either continue to excel or his small frame will be put in place, similarly to the WJC.

I am not 100% on marners status and where he can play next season, but i imagine him in the OHL for one more season. He needs to get stronger, does not play a mans game. Someone mentioned him putting up mcdavid like numbers.. he is not mcdavid. Not even close.

I think toronto has a legit shot at stamkos, but it will not be the roster or young players that tips the scale in their favor. If that is all it takes and salary is equal, i give the edge to buffalo.

- atmarising


can you imagine the outrage, the number of suicides considered, the stress in Buffalo if Matthews outscores Eichel in his first season? (you know... like he did with the National Development Team)?

and combine that depressing possibility with Matthews being "settled" with Babcock when he could have Bylsma...

and just imagine the outrage when Stamkos signs with Toronto..

the fact the the Canadian Falls are just prettier than the American Falls....

wow... Garth's going to lose his mind.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 27 @ 3:57 PM ET
The people that believed Babcock could raise this team from the grave in one season are akin to the people that thought Eichel makes Buffalo a playoff contender and the same about McDavid and Edmonton.
- markmark


Well at least we can laugh together at how bad EDM is.... Both Buffalo and Toronto will win more games than they will this season.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jun 27 @ 3:57 PM ET
Might be me but I would slow down on matthews a bit. It is most probable the kid comes to the show and struggles at times on a basement team and scores 40-50 pts.

Nylander is interesting. He put up decent numbers in limited time at the NHL level, and dominated the AHL. He will either continue to excel or his small frame will be put in place, similarly to the WJC.

I am not 100% on marners status and where he can play next season, but i imagine him in the OHL for one more season. He needs to get stronger, does not play a mans game. Someone mentioned him putting up mcdavid like numbers.. he is not mcdavid. Not even close.

I think toronto has a legit shot at stamkos, but it will not be the roster or young players that tips the scale in their favor. If that is all it takes and salary is equal, i give the edge to buffalo.

- atmarising


Absolute waste of time in my opinion. These AHL/OHL rules are seriously limiting our ability to develop Marner.

He has done everything he can at the OHL level. He almost has to be in NHL next season.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jun 27 @ 3:58 PM ET
Might be me but I would slow down on matthews a bit. It is most probable the kid comes to the show and struggles at times on a basement team and scores 40-50 pts.

Nylander is interesting. He put up decent numbers in limited time at the NHL level, and dominated the AHL. He will either continue to excel or his small frame will be put in place, similarly to the WJC.

I am not 100% on marners status and where he can play next season, but i imagine him in the OHL for one more season. He needs to get stronger, does not play a mans game. Someone mentioned him putting up mcdavid like numbers.. he is not mcdavid. Not even close.

I think toronto has a legit shot at stamkos, but it will not be the roster or young players that tips the scale in their favor. If that is all it takes and salary is equal, i give the edge to buffalo.

- atmarising


I haven't seen anyone predicting point totals for Matthews yet, let alone north of 50. A 40-50pt rookie season, especially with at least starting on the 3rd line would be just fine with me.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 27 @ 4:00 PM ET
Iceland is the new Greece
WingmanWillie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: A dog on the puck, just looking for a snizzbone
Joined: 04.17.2015

Jun 27 @ 4:00 PM ET
I haven't seen anyone predicting point totals for Matthews yet, let alone north of 50. A 40-50pt rookie season, especially with at least starting on the 3rd line would be just fine with me.
- 1979AD



That'd be excellent. Would have outscored our highest scorer last year
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Jun 27 @ 4:00 PM ET
Fair point. I still stand behind my argument.
- atmarising


Sure. But considering the size of a lot of players in the league, I'd say 5'11" and 190lbs isn't a small player you need to worry about.

BorjeFan4Ever
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Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jun 27 @ 4:01 PM ET
Absolute waste of time in my opinion. These AHL/OHL rules are seriously limiting our ability to develop Marner.

He has done everything he can at the OHL level. He almost has to be in NHL next season.

- Leafs43


they should just send him to Switzerland or Sweden or Germany ... "loan him".

JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 27 @ 4:01 PM ET
That'd be excellent. Would have outscored our highest scorer last year
- WingmanWillie


Shouldn't Matthews be your 2C behind kadri for at least part of the 1st year?

So without Stamkos in the possible equation for either team... talking definitives only

How does the top 6 even look?
atmarising
Location: There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life.
Joined: 10.01.2014

Jun 27 @ 4:02 PM ET
Absolute waste of time in my opinion. These AHL/OHL rules are seriously limiting our ability to develop Marner.

He has done everything he can at the OHL level. He almost has to be in NHL next season.

- Leafs43


I dont disagree with you, he should be in AHL next season. It hasnt just hurt marner either, many players play in those leagues long past their due.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jun 27 @ 4:03 PM ET
Shouldn't Matthews be your 2C behind kadri for at least part of the 1st year?

So without Stamkos in the possible equation for either team... talking definitives only

How does the top 6 even look?

- JVince11


Paging ThePresident....

here's your time to shine!
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Jun 27 @ 4:03 PM ET
Iceland is the new Greece
- AdamFrench




Iceland is the new Iceland!







(Maybe the new Leicester haha)
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jun 27 @ 4:03 PM ET
I haven't seen anyone predicting point totals for Matthews yet, let alone north of 50. A 40-50pt rookie season, especially with at least starting on the 3rd line would be just fine with me.
- 1979AD


i find it interesting... whether ShanaLouCock will be "tankish" again if Stamkos isn't signed. Clearly if he is signed then the Kids will get a little less prime time and would be sheltered to a degree by Stamkos' presence (which would be a good thing).

Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 27 @ 4:03 PM ET
Might be me but I would slow down on matthews a bit. It is most probable the kid comes to the show and struggles at times on a basement team and scores 40-50 pts.

Nylander is interesting. He put up decent numbers in limited time at the NHL level, and dominated the AHL. He will either continue to excel or his small frame will be put in place, similarly to the WJC.

I am not 100% on marners status and where he can play next season, but i imagine him in the OHL for one more season. He needs to get stronger, does not play a mans game. Someone mentioned him putting up mcdavid like numbers.. he is not mcdavid. Not even close.

I think toronto has a legit shot at stamkos, but it will not be the roster or young players that tips the scale in their favor. If that is all it takes and salary is equal, i give the edge to buffalo.

- atmarising

You act like Nylander and Marner are midgets... one is 5'11 and the other is a solid gym rat... Marner did put up McDavid like numbers, but i never compared him to McDavid, i just said those number have to count for something
WingmanWillie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: A dog on the puck, just looking for a snizzbone
Joined: 04.17.2015

Jun 27 @ 4:04 PM ET
Shouldn't Matthews be your 2C behind kadri for at least part of the 1st year?

So without Stamkos in the possible equation for either team... talking definitives only

How does the top 6 even look?

- JVince11


No Stammer:

JVR-Kadri-Nylander
Brown-Matthews-Marner

This is my guess
atmarising
Location: There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life.
Joined: 10.01.2014

Jun 27 @ 4:04 PM ET
can you imagine the outrage, the number of suicides considered, the stress in Buffalo if Matthews outscores Eichel in his first season? (you know... like he did with the National Development Team)?

and combine that depressing possibility with Matthews being "settled" with Babcock when he could have Bylsma...

and just imagine the outrage when Stamkos signs with Toronto..

the fact the the Canadian Falls are just prettier than the American Falls....

wow... Garth's going to lose his mind.

- BorjeFan4Ever


He could, he could not.

Its the delusion alot of leafs fans cant see past. It took eichel going nearly a PPG post christmas to finish at 56pts.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 27 @ 4:06 PM ET
You act like Nylander and Marner are midgets... one is 5'11 and the other is a solid gym rat... Marner did put up McDavid like numbers, but i never compared him to McDavid, i just said those number have to count for something
- Arctic_AARDVARK


So did Alex DeBrincat.

LOTS of secondary assists add up in the CHL.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jun 27 @ 4:06 PM ET
He could, he could not.

Its the delusion alot of leafs fans cant see past. It took eichel going nearly a PPG post christmas to finish at 56pts.

- atmarising


Who are these Leaf fans you keep referencing who seem to think Matthews is an Art Ross contender next year? You may be spending too much time in sportsnet.ca comments sections.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 27 @ 4:06 PM ET
He could, he could not.

Its the delusion alot of leafs fans cant see past. It took eichel going nearly a PPG post christmas to finish at 56pts.

- atmarising


If you don't think there is going to be a learning curve for your kids too then you have a big surprise coming for you.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 27 @ 4:07 PM ET
No Stammer:

JVR-Kadri-Nylander
Brown-Matthews-Marner

This is my guess

- WingmanWillie


Man that is a lot of kids. I have never been a big fan of multiple rookies together.

how well revered are Nylander and Marner defensively? I know Matthews, Kadri, and Brown can play 200 ft games. JVR is spottish.
atmarising
Location: There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life.
Joined: 10.01.2014

Jun 27 @ 4:09 PM ET
If you don't think there is going to be a learning curve for your kids too then you have a big surprise coming for you.
- JVince11


I am not a leaf fan. I think there will be a big learning curve.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 27 @ 4:09 PM ET
Who are these Leaf fans you keep referencing who seem to think Matthews is an Art Ross contender next year? You may be spending too much time in sportsnet.ca comments sections.
- 1979AD



they honestly just make poop up and see if it sticks.. the same old schtick..
WingmanWillie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: A dog on the puck, just looking for a snizzbone
Joined: 04.17.2015

Jun 27 @ 4:09 PM ET
Man that is a lot of kids. I have never been a big fan of multiple rookies together.

how well revered are Nylander and Marner defensively? I know Matthews, Kadri, and Brown can play 200 ft games. JVR is spottish.

- JVince11


Marner has a decent 200 ft game. Nylander is mostly offense though
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 27 @ 4:11 PM ET
Man that is a lot of kids. I have never been a big fan of multiple rookies together.

how well revered are Nylander and Marner defensively? I know Matthews, Kadri, and Brown can play 200 ft games. JVR is spottish.

- JVince11

Marner has a very good 200ft game... Nylander is better than most his age, but still needs work.
atmarising
Location: There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life.
Joined: 10.01.2014

Jun 27 @ 4:12 PM ET
You act like Nylander and Marner are midgets... one is 5'11 and the other is a solid gym rat... Marner did put up McDavid like numbers, but i never compared him to McDavid, i just said those number have to count for something
- Arctic_AARDVARK


Whats marner, 170lbs wet?

He may be a better skater than reinhart and that will help, but reinhart is bigger and i was still suprised and borderline impressed last season watching reinhart get blasted time and again, and going back for more. Every time.
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