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Mr_Smokey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.02.2008

Jun 27 @ 2:37 PM ET
Just not that right time to commit 70 or 80 million to one guy over 7 years.
- stormeyAlterEgo


Exactly. Don't have the core of players required to make this kind of move + it puts pressure and expectations on the players and management.
jimi james
Location: Somewhere Between
Joined: 07.17.2010

Jun 27 @ 2:37 PM ET
Completely disagree. It's the PERFECT time to sign him.


* Disclaimer: anything is possible.

- mjones242

I'm currently eating roast pork with a spoon in my wrong hand so anything is possible
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 27 @ 2:38 PM ET
I figured you come in heere and post this.

You got reaction from two people. The rest of us laughed at your futile attempts to troll.

But kudos, i guess?

- ImThatGuy

the thing is tho, it wasnt even meant to be a troll job..

i just wanted to know if Sabres fans actually thought they had a chance at landing stamkos.. then you guys came at me gunz blazin'

i didnt give a single insult so im not getting banned.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jun 27 @ 2:39 PM ET
Where are you trying to move to/from?

What line of work are you in?

- WingmanWillie

I'm in IT. Just trying to find another job as a system/infrastructure admin.
stormeyAlterEgo
Location: The Attack Line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen - Brandon Smille
Joined: 09.24.2008

Jun 27 @ 2:40 PM ET
Completely disagree. It's the PERFECT time to sign him.

1. He's an ELITE center and you're getting him for strictly salary (no player assets). It's a lot of money to be sure -- but he's a legit superstar in the league.

2. He can take the brunt of the spotlight away from Matthews in Auston's formative years.

3. He significantly accelerates the Leafs rebuild and puts them into a legitimate playoff contention conversation.

4. He's got significant playoff experience and is captain material (hell, he IS a captain).

5. When exactly is the right time to pay a superstar - in the prime of his career - big bucks? How many times do you have an opportunity like this? Do you wait 2 years for Tavares?

6. He's a hometown talent.

7. Can you imagine how HUGE a star Stammer would be in Toronto? He's money in the bank just in terms of endorsements.

Look, if you can sign this guy for 9-10M a year you do it. He's a major piece to any team's puzzle -- especially a team that is filled to the brim with young talent that could deal with some superstar veteran leadership.

The only way I can see him not coming to TO is if Buf/Det make a ridiculous over-payment in the range of 11/12M. Which is entirely possible... but if he signs for less than that with any team not named Toronto I will be shocked and awed*.

* Disclaimer: anything is possible.

- mjones242

I agree with 1-4 and 6-7.
Just not sure on number 5. Tavares would be better but you can't necessarily wait on that of course. But since the CBA changed to allow younger UFA's we are just now seeing that happening. In 3 or 4 years time when this team is really ready to compete for a cup what if a similar 26 year old become available as opposed to a 30 year old Stamkos who's already had some severe injuries.

Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 27 @ 2:45 PM ET
I figured you come in heere and post this.

You got reaction from two people. The rest of us laughed at your futile attempts to troll.

But kudos, i guess?

- ImThatGuy

wahhh wahhh ban aardvark hes mean!! wahhh!
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jun 27 @ 2:46 PM ET
the thing is tho, it wasnt even meant to be a troll job..

i just wanted to know if Sabres fans actually thought they had a chance at landing stamkos.. then you guys came at me gunz blazin'

i didnt give a single insult so im not getting banned.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Do they? Their blogger actually wrote (last Friday) that he hopes they trade for his negotiating rights. I'm not sure he realized those rights would open up to every team in the league as of midnight
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jun 27 @ 2:48 PM ET
CapFriendly
‏@CapFriendly
What will Stamkos make post-tax per city if he signs @ $10M per?
TOR $4.7M
TBL $6.1M
BUF $5.2M
DET $5.4M
VAN $5.3M
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 27 @ 2:49 PM ET
Do they? Their blogger actually wrote (last Friday) that he hopes they trade for his negotiating rights. I'm not sure he realized those rights would open up to every team in the league as of midnight
- 1979AD


No, that was Garth, you all seem to have a man crush on him, because Sabres fans pay no attention to him.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 27 @ 2:49 PM ET
wahhh wahhh ban aardvark hes mean!! wahhh!
- Arctic_AARDVARK


You give yourself way to much credit.
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Jun 27 @ 2:49 PM ET
You get a player of Stamkos' ability become available for nothing more than money, then you make a damn offer unless you want to not attempt to win at all during that 7 year span...
- lumlums

Agree totally.
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Jun 27 @ 2:50 PM ET
Completely disagree. It's the PERFECT time to sign him.

1. He's an ELITE center and you're getting him for strictly salary (no player assets). It's a lot of money to be sure -- but he's a legit superstar in the league.

2. He can take the brunt of the spotlight away from Matthews in Auston's formative years.

3. He significantly accelerates the Leafs rebuild and puts them into a legitimate playoff contention conversation.

4. He's got significant playoff experience and is captain material (hell, he IS a captain).

5. When exactly is the right time to pay a superstar - in the prime of his career - big bucks? How many times do you have an opportunity like this? Do you wait 2 years for Tavares?

6. He's a hometown talent.

7. Can you imagine how HUGE a star Stammer would be in Toronto? He's money in the bank just in terms of endorsements.

Look, if you can sign this guy for 9-10M a year you do it. He's a major piece to any team's puzzle -- especially a team that is filled to the brim with young talent that could deal with some superstar veteran leadership.

The only way I can see him not coming to TO is if Buf/Det make a ridiculous over-payment in the range of 11/12M. Which is entirely possible... but if he signs for less than that with any team not named Toronto I will be shocked and awed*.

* Disclaimer: anything is possible.

- mjones242

100 percent
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 2:50 PM ET
If this is true on Rychel...slick move by the Leafs ...cant post the full article

Once again, the Leafs have taken advantage of the Collective Bargaining Agreement with this move.

Harrington, based on his AHL and NHL experience, will be waiver-eligible as early as this training camp, and would require protection for the 2017/18 Las Vegas Expansion Draft. The former stipulation is the reason for the conditional draft pick, as Harrington is a high risk to not make the Blue Jackets and require waivers in a few months.

Rychel doesn't require waivers. Not at training camp, and not at all next year; his exemption holds until the start of 2017/18. But, as a two-year AHL veteran, he's not protected from the Expansion Draft, right?

Hold the phone.

Teenagers in the AHL are rare due to the CHL transfer agreement; typically, you only see Europeans and North Americans who forgo the NCAA. But you can also jump to the AHL if you finish four full major-junior seasons, a circumstance that only applies to late-year players who jumped into junior as early as possible. Jason Spezza is a famous example of this, and Rychel matches the rule. As such, his first year in the AHL was considered a slide-year, and not a professional season. Like William Nylander, he's exempt from the expansion draft.


doesnt require waiver and is expansion draft except? ..hmm
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 27 @ 2:51 PM ET
You give yourself way to much credit.
- ImThatGuy

like when a team thinks they are an attractive market for free agents?

We're getting Babcock!! , WAIT NO WERE NOT..

We're getting Vesey!! Wait... nope..

We're getting Stamkos!!! .... Ha!
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jun 27 @ 2:51 PM ET
No, that was Garth, you all seem to have a man crush on him, because Sabres fans pay no attention to him.
- ImThatGuy


If by "Garth" you mean Michael Pachla, then you are correct:

How to steal some of Toronto's thunder at the 2016 NHL Draft?
June 24, 2016, 11:20 AM ET [1817 Comments]
Michael PachlaBuffalo Sabres Blogger

--An announcement that the Sabres have traded for the rights to Tampa's Steven Stamkos. We all know the Sabres are in the mix and we all know that Buffalo's owners, the Pegula's, are not afraid to go all-in financially to get what they want. Although owning the rights to Stamkos doesn't mean he'll sign with the Sabres, many of his needs can be checked off in Buffalo, including the willingness of the Sabres to pony up the cash.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 27 @ 2:51 PM ET
I agree with 1-4 and 6-7.
Just not sure on number 5. Tavares would be better but you can't necessarily wait on that of course. But since the CBA changed to allow younger UFA's we are just now seeing that happening. In 3 or 4 years time when this team is really ready to compete for a cup what if a similar 26 year old become available as opposed to a 30 year old Stamkos who's already had some severe injuries.

- stormeyAlterEgo


Sign stamkos now.

Sign laine in 8 years when he’s 26.

Win/win.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 27 @ 2:52 PM ET
No, that was Garth, you all seem to have a man crush on him, because Sabres fans pay no attention to him.
- ImThatGuy

they pay a lot of attention to me.. they must have a crush on me..
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jun 27 @ 2:53 PM ET
Sign stamkos now.

Sign laine in 8 years when he’s 26.

Win/win.

- Tumbleweed


and McDavid !!
stormeyAlterEgo
Location: The Attack Line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen - Brandon Smille
Joined: 09.24.2008

Jun 27 @ 2:53 PM ET
Sign stamkos now.

Sign laine in 8 years when he’s 26.

Win/win.

- Tumbleweed

Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 27 @ 2:54 PM ET
i think columbus is going to regret drafting PLD...

maybe not, but fuuuckk... passing up on Puljujarvi
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 27 @ 2:56 PM ET
If by "Garth" you mean Michael Pachla, then you are correct:

How to steal some of Toronto's thunder at the 2016 NHL Draft?
June 24, 2016, 11:20 AM ET

- 1979AD[1817 Comments]
Michael PachlaBuffalo Sabres Blogger

--An announcement that the Sabres have traded for the rights to Tampa's Steven Stamkos. We all know the Sabres are in the mix and we all know that Buffalo's owners, the Pegula's, are not afraid to go all-in financially to get what they want. Although owning the rights to Stamkos doesn't mean he'll sign with the Sabres, many of his needs can be checked off in Buffalo, including the willingness of the Sabres to pony up the cash.


that's a terrible idea. Must of missed that, I don't read the blogs. {Shrugs}
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 27 @ 2:57 PM ET
i think columbus is going to regret drafting PLD...

maybe not, but fuuuckk... passing up on Puljujarvi

- Arctic_AARDVARK


It was a mistake. Puljujarvi was the obvious choice at #3.

But hey, PLD is actually a very good player too so they might end up being happy in the end.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 27 @ 2:57 PM ET
If this is true on Rychel...slick move by the Leafs ...cant post the full article



doesnt require waiver and is expansion draft except? ..hmm

- senstroll


This management really doesn't leave any stone unturned. You have to like a group that seems to be on top of things
jimi james
Location: Somewhere Between
Joined: 07.17.2010

Jun 27 @ 2:58 PM ET
i think columbus is going to regret drafting PLD...

maybe not, but fuuuckk... passing up on Puljujarvi

- Arctic_AARDVARK

Did the canucks pass on Tkchuk as well?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 27 @ 2:58 PM ET
It was a mistake. Puljujarvi was the obvious choice at #3.

But hey, PLD is actually a very good player too so they might end up being happy in the end.

- Scabeh


Yeah I don' t think anyone really liked them leaving PullUpJammies on the board, but Dubois might be good enough that it won't matter.
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