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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 27 @ 10:34 AM ET
IMO helm is a downgrade from bozak.
- Lucas.Neilson


I consider him a different-grade. Better defensively but weaker offensively. Babcock would know best but I don't see them adding a 3rd line centre for big dollars and term. Bozak, Laich, Holland and Froese all in the system now and on short contracts.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jun 27 @ 10:36 AM ET
his next window will be after the deadline day when teams who failed to sign their targeted free agents look at their plan B
- Dozzer

yeah exactly, I have faith we improve the roster somewhat before opening night, whether that be stamkos or an upgrade over marincin on top pairing.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jun 27 @ 10:37 AM ET
I consider him a different-grade. Better defensively but weaker offensively. Babcock would know best but I don't see them adding a 3rd line centre for big dollars and term. Bozak, Laich, Holland and Froese all in the system now and on short contracts.
- The Law


helm has a ton of speed, great on the PK.

bozak is also good on the PK, decent on the draw and surprisingly really strong in the shootout. I'd rather bozie and I rarely say that !
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 27 @ 10:39 AM ET
Personally, I don't think Lou is done yet.
- Lucas.Neilson


Well we know they're going to try to land a certain 'big fish'. And we can assume that they'll speak to Vesey in August. I wonder whether their is anything else out there they might consider on July 1.
Deeps27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:40 AM ET
Does anyone know what it is about Detroit that makes them such a contender for Stamkos? Is it solely based on their desire to sign him, or is there some back story about Detroit having some sort of inside track?

He's # 91, so I assume maybe Yzerman or Fedorov were faves of his growing up...he obviously had his fill of Yzerman in TB...I'm just not sure why everyone is so convinced Detroit is a big player here...there are more than a few teams that can offer the $.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jun 27 @ 10:42 AM ET
Well we know they're going to try to land a certain 'big fish'. And we can assume that they'll speak to Vesey in August. I wonder whether their is anything else out there they might consider on July 1.
- The Law


if we can move around some bodies I'd take a look at a 4th liner in Matt Martin.

I know some may think that's not what we need but..
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jun 27 @ 10:43 AM ET
Does anyone know what it is about Detroit that makes them such a contender for Stamkos? Is it solely based on their desire to sign him, or is there some back story about Detroit having some sort of inside track?

He's # 91, so I assume maybe Yzerman or Fedorov were faves of his growing up...he obviously had his fill of Yzerman in TB...I'm just not sure why everyone is so convinced Detroit is a big player here...there are more than a few teams that can offer the $.

- Deeps27


original 6
close to TO
instant #1C on a team decently established team

but I just cant see him leaving tbay to join Detroit or buffalo instead of Toronto

40 tbay
45 Toronto
10 Detroit
5 buffalo

one can hope
Deeps27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:44 AM ET
Read a couple posts on here today comparing Ricky Romero and Marcus Stroman and comparing the letter's recent bad stretch with Romero's...knee injuries aside, here is the reason his head got messed up:


Miss Universe contestant...his decline started the season after their break up. Understandable.

Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jun 27 @ 10:46 AM ET
new logo to click on looks sharp Mike
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 27 @ 10:48 AM ET
original 6
close to TO
instant #1C on a team decently established team

but I just cant see him leaving tbay to join Detroit or buffalo instead of Toronto

40 tbay
45 Toronto
10 Detroit
5 buffalo

one can hope

- Lucas.Neilson
I keep seeing places that BOS is on his list and that it has been narrowed down to TBL, TOR, and BOS. If that's the case it's a two horse race. I don't see how we can maneuver enough to make the room/pitch him on our (seemingly no existent) strategy.

He's going to Toronto. I really think it's done.
Deeps27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:48 AM ET
original 6
close to TO
instant #1C on a team decently established team

but I just cant see him leaving tbay to join Detroit or buffalo instead of Toronto

40 tbay
45 Toronto
10 Detroit
5 buffalo

one can hope

- Lucas.Neilson

Yeah - here's hoping...if the Leafs can sign him Friday (if he goes to UFA) I think that is the catalyst for management really accelerating the plan (positively). Not just because they get Stamkos, but because then you can look at moving Bozak, and if you feel there is a realistic shot at signing Vesey, JVR for some D help...it's (dare I say) a domino?
jimi james
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere Between, NB
Joined: 07.17.2010

Jun 27 @ 10:50 AM ET
I keep seeing places that BOS is on his list and that it has been narrowed down to TBL, TOR, and BOS. If that's the case it's a two horse race. I don't see how we can maneuver enough to make the room/pitch him on our (seemingly no existent) strategy.

He's going to Toronto. I really think it's done.

- RickJames77

agreed
Deeps27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:53 AM ET
I keep seeing places that BOS is on his list and that it has been narrowed down to TBL, TOR, and BOS. If that's the case it's a two horse race. I don't see how we can maneuver enough to make the room/pitch him on our (seemingly no existent) strategy.

He's going to Toronto. I really think it's done.

- RickJames77

Not sure if you're familiar with Bob McCown (fairly well respected, long time TO sports radio guy...really dialed in to the management types) tweeted yesterday that he believes MLSE has $3.5M in endorsements lined up outside of his SPC that will be a part of their pitch to him this week, assuming they didn't already meet. Will be interesting, but very "Lou".

EDIT: Here's the post:

https://twitter.com/Fadoo...status/746759404968513536
ShayneCorsi
Location: Teedot
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jun 27 @ 10:54 AM ET
Does anyone know what it is about Detroit that makes them such a contender for Stamkos? Is it solely based on their desire to sign him, or is there some back story about Detroit having some sort of inside track?

He's # 91, so I assume maybe Yzerman or Fedorov were faves of his growing up...he obviously had his fill of Yzerman in TB...I'm just not sure why everyone is so convinced Detroit is a big player here...there are more than a few teams that can offer the $.

- Deeps27


Its just media hype. DET will have to retool or rebuild soon. They are a fringe playoff team and soon will be on the outside looking in.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 27 @ 10:55 AM ET
Well we know they're going to try to land a certain 'big fish'. And we can assume that they'll speak to Vesey in August. I wonder whether their is anything else out there they might consider on July 1.
- The Law

I dont feel they will go after Vesey in August.
Might not have a spot.
Deeps27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:56 AM ET
Its just media hype. DET will have to retool or rebuild soon. They are a fringe playoff team and soon will be on the outside looking in.
- ShayneCorsi

That's my thinking too...I didn't get it. Hard to question their string of postseason appearances, but eventually that has to give.
WingmanWillie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: A dog on the puck, just looking for a snizzbone
Joined: 04.17.2015

Jun 27 @ 10:57 AM ET
I dont feel they will go after Vesey in August.
Might not have a spot.

- Fakepartofme


True, especially now that they signed Rychel. I expect he will be challenging for a spot in the top 6. along with Matthews, JVR, Marner, Nylander and Kadri

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 27 @ 10:57 AM ET
original 6
close to TO
instant #1C on a team decently established team

but I just cant see him leaving tbay to join Detroit or buffalo instead of Toronto

40 tbay
45 Toronto
10 Detroit
5 buffalo

one can hope

- Lucas.Neilson


Honestly no clue.
I feel a New York team may snag him.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 27 @ 10:57 AM ET
I may be wrong but, does anyone here think that Lou didn't make any deals involving roster players this weekend because they're waiting to see what goes down July 1st? I get the impression that the proverbial "dominoes" are delaying the deals and that Lou has already found partners for those players deemed expendable.
- reefguy69


Yes,

Waiting to see what happens July 1 with Stamkos

Waiting to see how the trade market looks for the teams that lost out on FA after the dust settles.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 27 @ 10:57 AM ET
Does anyone know what it is about Detroit that makes them such a contender for Stamkos? Is it solely based on their desire to sign him, or is there some back story about Detroit having some sort of inside track?

He's # 91, so I assume maybe Yzerman or Fedorov were faves of his growing up...he obviously had his fill of Yzerman in TB...I'm just not sure why everyone is so convinced Detroit is a big player here...there are more than a few teams that can offer the $.

- Deeps27


I've said it before too ....I don't get the attraction to Detroit. Larkin is sexy ....Zetterburg is old and Datsyuk is gonzo. Aren't they kind of trending down?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 27 @ 10:58 AM ET
That's my thinking too...I didn't get it. Hard to question their string of postseason appearances, but eventually that has to give.
- Deeps27

With Dats off the books.....I expect Detroit will make a huge push for him
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 27 @ 11:00 AM ET
I think we're starting to see the nasty side of Leafs fans towards Nylander... 6 months ago he was called the top prospect not playing in the NHL... and now because apparently he didnt backcheck for a few shifts in the AHL playoffs the fans are suggesting he doesnt care.. Poor kid.. he might be our Backstrom
- Arctic_AARDVARK


No, not poor kid.

If he wasn't injured (who knows?) and he decided to mail it in during the playoffs, then he isn't ready for the kind of team I would like to see iced.

Sorry, I don't want another Kessel-like work ethic on the team, regardless of talent.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 27 @ 11:01 AM ET
his next window will be after the deadline day when teams who failed to sign their targeted free agents look at their plan B
- Dozzer


exactly
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 27 @ 11:01 AM ET
More like Toronto Gayple Queafs

*fart noise*

- Streit2ThePoint



The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 27 @ 11:02 AM ET
Yes,

Waiting to see what happens July 1 with Stamkos

Waiting to see how the trade market looks for the teams that lost out on FA after the dust settles.

- Aetherial


Ya, I have to think this "let's chat" week probably cools a lot of heels as well. Everybody gets a week to talk and map things out before the July 1 shenanigans.
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