Just having fun:

B. Marchand To CHI

AA and McNeil To BOS

THe Hawks not only replace the style Shaw plays, but you get a guy who can play top 6 LW. Boston gets a solid 3rd Line Option behind Kreci and Bergeron and with the injuries they have seen out of Kreci they have a formidible 2c to back up. On top of it, center depth in the East looms large and while cap wise it basicaly an even trade off, both teams fill a couple needs with one move
- nickmo2699

Marchand's $4.5M would be off the books the following year as he is a UFA too.

So with all the fun yesterday with crazy trades, hoping today is the same and maybe the Hawks can get in on some action.

Just having fun:

B. Marchand To CHI

AA and McNeil To BOS

THe Hawks not only replace the style Shaw plays, but you get a guy who can play top 6 LW. Boston gets a solid 3rd Line Option behind Kreci and Bergeron and with the injuries they have seen out of Kreci they have a formidible 2c to back up. On top of it, center depth in the East looms large and while cap wise it basicaly an even trade off, both teams fill a couple needs with one move
- nickmo2699

Yeah you'd need to give up a lot more than that to get a guy who just scored 37 goals(24,25 the previous two seasons as well) and brings a high level of energy and intensity to the game. Everyone on this message boards doesn't think McNeil is really worth anything, so you'd essentially be saying this trade is AA for Marchand. Marchand is a MUCH better player than Anisimov.

I'm not all for trading AA but looking ahead, if this team wants to remain in a cup contendIng conversation, it might make sense to get away from that contract.

How about a trade where you swap AA for Martin Hanzal (3.1M & in final year of deal)?

That way you get a very solid, big C back, to be competitive this year, but have the flexibility with the cap next summer.

There's been rumours that Hanzal is availabe. Plus... he's so hot right now.
- TyCamScore

Hanzal simply never ever ever stays healthy. IMO very underated but the problem is he only plays 60 games a year, sometimes less.

Let me also add, there will likely be 2 "kids" on the roster fairly regularly this year, no matter what.

Although anyone thinking any of them show up 10/1 and play 82 games probably needs to do less meth. The Rockford Shuttle will be very busy.

If they are relying on 3-4 roster spots to be filled by kids, that is asking for trouble.

I know, I know, Rutherford did it in Pittsburgh last year. The Pens also had not depleted their system like the Hawks have and the Pens NHL roster had not taken the kind of hits the previous couple of years quite like the Hawks has. The Pens ADDED a Phil Kessel prior to the season. They got Daley for Rob Freaking Scuderi.

Perspective.

1-2 rotating rookies is acceptable and part of the game. 3-4 is really saying you're not seriously contending this season, especially when you're back-filling good players who've left. Not just Shaw and TT, but also Sharp and Saad—who still really haven't been completely replaced. Panarin, yes. Panik, ehhh, sort of.
- John Jaeckel

You need look no farther than last year when we were playing 5-6 rookie players (I am including TT and TVR as they had not yet completed close to a full regular season) per game early in the year.

Yes they made the playoffs, but as stated, they weren't going to compete for the cup.

Hanzal simply never ever ever stays healthy. IMO very underated but the problem is he only plays 60 games a year, sometimes less.
- Mr Ricochet

Trade deadline cap space!

Didn't Campbell play for Lindy Ruff in Buffalo ....it may come down to that relationship versus his relationship with Q

Can a player like Toews slide a couple of mil under the table to a player he wants on the team to circumvent the cap? Same goes for an Endorsement or is this against the CBA?

Tongue in cheek of course
- Colbyboy

On your first point...No. Ruff knew they couldn't compete and Campbell was gone.

49, when you get some time You Tube Lundberg. There is one entry that has a whole game, I got through 1/2 of it. Lundberg played RW (#27 or 17 IIRC) and as far as I could tell he didn't get a shift until about 5-6 minutes in and he played bottom 6.

He showed very good skating skill and tenacity. Was a really good game and a lotta flow on the big surface with back and forth action.
- Mr Ricochet

I'll watch that throughout the day. I did just watch him fight a dude and get bloodied up. This guy takes it seriously to stand up for his teammates and get nasty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcabiPXqdZc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vup3MJ6zVu0

The only two "highlight" packages I could find of Johansson, who won the goalie of the year in the SHL this year.

1.74 .927 during the regular season.
1.43 .947 during the playoffs.

JJ taking them to the wood shed in the comment section . LOL


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I'm not all for trading AA but looking ahead, if this team wants to remain in a cup contendIng conversation, it might make sense to get away from that contract.

How about a trade where you swap AA for Martin Hanzal (3.1M & in final year of deal)?

That way you get a very solid, big C back, to be competitive this year, but have the flexibility with the cap next summer.

There's been rumours that Hanzal is availabe. Plus... he's so hot right now.
- TyCamScore

I understand what you're saying but I disagree about Anisimov.

In the past year (to the day) the Blackhawks have lost Saad, Sharp, Oduya, Danault, Dano, Shaw and Teravainen (correct me if I've missed anyone). The only quality added was Anisimov and Panarin. Trading AA does increase cap flexibility but it also diminishes an already diminished talent pool. Guys like Motte and Schmaltz may step in at some point, but not likely anytime soon. I say hold on the AA as the team needs as much top 6 talent as possible.

@THNRyanKennedy

St. Cloud D-man Jimmy Schuldt busy this summer. Invited to at least eight NHL camps, will attend Isles & Hawks. Next year's big college FA?

I'm not all for trading AA but looking ahead, if this team wants to remain in a cup contendIng conversation, it might make sense to get away from that contract.

How about a trade where you swap AA for Martin Hanzal (3.1M & in final year of deal)?

That way you get a very solid, big C back, to be competitive this year, but have the flexibility with the cap next summer.

There's been rumours that Hanzal is availabe. Plus... he's so hot right now.
- TyCamScore

You are forgetting how much input Q has—it's substantial and more now than it was a couple of years ago.

Which is why I don't see them going too far to sign Campbell, playing 'the kids" is going to be a disaster (and by the way, I have it on pretty good info., the player leadership is not real keen on that notion either), they won't have any more cap space relatively speaking on deadline day without making a move to reduce their cap.
- John Jaeckel

LOL the big money boys don't want a team full of kids on ELC or over the hill Vets on one last dirt cheap contract.... Oh the irony...

My understanding is that the Hawks could use a bit of a loophole to protect Darling without actually protecting him.


https://www.nhl.com/news/...n-draft-rules/c-281010592

iii) One goaltender who is under contract in 2017-18 or will be a restricted free agent at the expiration of his current contract immediately prior to 2017-18. If the club elects to make a restricted free agent goaltender available in order to meet this requirement, that goaltender must have received his qualifying offer prior to the submission of the club's protected list.


Further down that list it also states that Las Vegas must select 20 players that are under contract for the 2017-18 season. That would leave only 6 spots(14/9/3) that they could take an unsigned player in the expansion draft.

What if Chicago doesn't extend Darling before the draft? That would leave a small chance that they would pick up Darling with one of their 6 spots for unsigned players.
- Hawks_49

Except for the part where Darling is a UFA and not an RFA

Klingenberg-Oduya
Benn-Johns
Nemeth-Oleksiak

Only a few need Dmen more than Dallas.
- Mr Ricochet

...and the got those otehr kids in the farm that also need to play in the bigs soon, big Esa Lindell looked good the one dallas game I saw him and the first rounder puck mover, Julius Honka has to play too.

Except for the part where Darling is a UFA and not an RFA
- Return of the Roar

That's the whole point of my post. He isn't under contract in 2017-18, and is a UFA. Las Vegas is required to take 20 out of their 26 players under contract for 2017-18. They could just call up Carruth as their 3rd goaltender and make him available.

EDIT: I'm wrong about Carruth. He is exempt

Golf, the Pens had 3 scoring lines and Malkin and Crosby were split. It went:

Sheary (24 yr old undrafted rookie)-Crosby-Hornqvist

Kunitz-Malkin-Rust (24 yr old 3rd round rookie)

Hagelin-Bonino-Kessell (IIRC this "3rd line" had the most points in the playoffs)

Kuhnackl (24 yr old rookie)-Cullen-Fehr (this 4th line absolutely dominated and shut down the Hertyl-Thorton-Pavelski line while the top 3 lines played at warp speed and spent most of the game in the SJ zone).
- Mr Ricochet

Interesting that ALL 3 of those "kids" were 24.

JJ taking them to the wood shed in the comment section . LOL


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- mrpaulish

Cruel, but fair.

JJ taking them to the wood shed in the comment section . LOL


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- mrpaulish

Now watch we'll sign him for nothing...lol..

meanwhile who can they move...who's going to take Crawford or AA..if AA is moved wonder if they take a flyer on bringing Richards back for a season.

You'd love to see Ladd or Brouwer here but we all know the cap isn't going to allow that.

Q is going to have to adapt this season he can't play the they don't fit my system card. Daley was certainly better than any of the lower tier guys they had and they desperately needed a #4 last season. At the same time you could have still had Oduya here if you hadn't franked up moving Sharp at the draft for picks.

Stan seems to have finally learned his lesson and moved Shaw quickly after Bickell. I'm hopeful he's got some moves coming here besides signing Soupy otherwise it could get ugly...

With the cap hell the Hawks are in I wanted to compare the cap to the NHL's biggest competition, the NBA.

The NHL has a cap space of 73,000,000 for a max of 23 players on the roster roughly an average of $3,173,913 per player.

The NBA has Cap of $94,000,000. The majority of the teams carry 14 players. That makes it an average 6,714,285 per player. Plus, teams can go up to the Luxury Tax Threshold of $113,000,000.

I heard that Joakim Noah wants 18M a year!!! Really?!?!? 18M a year!!!

I guess this just shows how poor the NHL does to market the sport. I hate watching the NBA, but I have to admit, for as little as I watch I do know who the most popular players are.

I just can't understand how much of a difference there is in cap space. The NHL has 21M less to spend on 9 more players on the team. They need to fix this.

Last year:
-Kane, MVP season.
-Panarin- amazing find and rookie sensation.
-Trade deadline major acquisition - Ladd, Weise, Fleischman.
-5 on 5 play was weak.
-Defense struggled at times.
-Never found that top 1 line left wing.

Result - first round exit

For next season:
-Loss of key contributors like Shaw, TT and maybe more, AA (god forbid)?
-Also loss of Ladd, Weise, Fleischman.
-Added Kempney.
-Kane and Panarin repeating those amazing seasons is far from guaranteed.
-No replacements so far to make up for the key losses of Shaw and TT.
-No replacements so far for issues identified last year.

Result for next year: Still a good team but probably outside looking in.

Last year:
-Kane, MVP season.
-Panarin- amazing find and rookie sensation.
-Trade deadline major acquisition - Ladd, Weise, Fleischman.
-5 on 5 play was weak.
-Defense struggled at times.
-Never found that top 1 line left wing.

Result - first round exit

For next season:
-Loss of key contributors like Shaw, TT and maybe more, AA (god forbid)?
-Also loss of Ladd, Weise, Fleischman.
-Added Kempney.
-Kane and Panarin repeating those amazing seasons is far from guaranteed.
-No replacements so far to make up for the key losses of Shaw and TT.
-No replacements so far for issues identified last year.

Result for next year: Still a good team but probably outside looking in.
- Hawkster

Id wait on that assumption until the roster is set .

https://twitter.com/adate...status/748393568952279041

I'm not all for trading AA but looking ahead, if this team wants to remain in a cup contendIng conversation, it might make sense to get away from that contract.

How about a trade where you swap AA for Martin Hanzal (3.1M & in final year of deal)?

That way you get a very solid, big C back, to be competitive this year, but have the flexibility with the cap next summer.

There's been rumours that Hanzal is availabe. Plus... he's so hot right now.
- TyCamScore

There's more to life than being really, really, really, really ridiculously good looking.