Yikes, I dunno, Al.

Maybe if the team had no other glaring needs.

I just don't think they need another d-man nearly as much as they do a LW. Campbell is a nice to have. 1LW is a got to have.

And I don't think they can spend $7 million right now without losing someone else's salary.
- John Jaeckel

I was thinking 2 years for about $4.5 mill but...
Still think there needs to be another deal....But Campbell would help the defense a great deal.

If Campbell really wants to come here he will unless they r offering half the money Dallas is...

3rd line solved.
- John Jaeckel

Not ideal but that line has speed and some finishing ability. Could be a good one come playoff time (theoretically).

Sadly, Vesey might be the best option for a quality forward acquisition.
- DarthKane

THAT is something, even though Vesey also has zero pro experience, he is a scoring winger, with high end skill, and reasonable enough size. So maybe, you plug him in alongside Hoss and Toews and you got something. Because he has been SO productive in Hockey East was a scoring winger, and you are not asking him to play out of position.

Here's the way to think about the Hawks money situation, without more salary saving trades. As they sit today. They have $1m/ open roster spot, plus $2.5m.

So, for instance, if they give Campbell $2m deal, that eats a $1m slot and $1m of the $2.5m, leaving them $1.5m for other moves.

How would you allocate that $2.5m?? For me:

$2m to soupy ($1m of the extra).
$2m to Shipachyov ($1m of the extra)
$1.5m to some grit player for bottom 6.
Or Richards instead of Ship.

I was thinking 2 years for about $4.5 mill but...
Still think there needs to be another deal....But Campbell would help the defense a great deal.

If Campbell really wants to come here he will unless they offering half the money Dallas is...
- Al

With 51, and if Kempny is as advertised, I would argue it would be the best Hawk defense we've seen.

And while that's great, still gotta get a winger. Or two.

3rd line solved.
- John Jaeckel

Probably gonna hit $2M+ when stupid money hits the air in just under 38hrs.

Agree. Top 4 D is definitely more important right now. Getting the Toews line scoring would be next.
- JRoenick97

Panarin-Toews-Kane
Panik-AA-Hossa

THAT is something, even though Vesey also has zero pro experience, he is a scoring winger, with high end skill, and reasonable enough size. So maybe, you plug him in alongside Hoss and Toews and you got something. Because he has been SO productive in Hockey East was a scoring winger, and you are not asking him to play out of position.
- John Jaeckel

Think SB can make the hard sale to play with 19/81?

With 51, and if Kempny is as advertised, I would argue it would be the best Hawk defense we've seen.



And while that's great, still gotta get a winger. Or two.
- John Jaeckel

This! I think a Soupy add to our D roster makes that group improved and solid.

With 51, and if Kempny is as advertised, I would argue it would be the best Hawk defense we've seen.

And while that's great, still gotta get a winger. Or two.
- John Jaeckel

So would you be happy with a Soupy signing and a Vesey signing?

This! I think a Soupy add to our D roster makes that group improved and solid.
- Cmonalready

And if it is between Chi and Dal, all Stan has to say is, 'you want those goalies behind you or CC?'. Done and DONE.

Here's the way to think about the Hawks money situation, without more salary saving trades. As they sit today. They have $1m/ open roster spot, plus $2.5m.

So, for instance, if they give Campbell $2m deal, that eats a $1m slot and $1m of the $2.5m, leaving them $1.5m for other moves.

How would you allocate that $2.5m?? For me:

$2m to soupy ($1m of the extra).
$2m to Shipachyov ($1m of the extra)
$1.5m to some grit player for bottom 6.
Or Richards instead of Ship.
- Cmonalready

Where do you get that "plus $2.5M" number?

So would you be happy with a Soupy signing and a Vesey signing?
- onehundredlevel

I know I would. Nice upgrade with a little more work to do.

Campbell has made over $60 mill in his career and supposedly wants only a one year deal. He's one guy that can sacrifice a million to be where he wants...Give him $3 mill for a year and be done.
- Al

Geez Al, do they have 3 mil to give him?

I know I would. Nice upgrade with a little more work to do.
- blackhawk24

Does Campbell + Vesey + Ship + Colbourne (with Kempney already) = successful off season? Is it enough to offset the losses?

Does Campbell + Vesey + Ship + Colbourne (with Kempney already) = successful off season? Is it enough to offset the losses?
- dciz99

Again - total wishful thinking!

Again - total wishful thinking!
- dciz99

Looks decent. They got the cash? Vezey is a longshot we all know. Ship is a big question mark. Colborne is coming off a $1.275M AAV. Stupid money says that goes past $2M.

Just so that walker has blades on the front. Many games this past season I saw him play at UC; and got his 12-14 min TOI. And for a guy his age, a guy coming off that horrific ankle injury last May, I gotta say he was pretty solid.
- blackhawk24

Rozy just needs short shifts at this stage in his career , he only gets in trouble in the second half of his shifts, is usually pretty solid first half of his shifts.

Yikes, I dunno, Al.

Maybe if the team had no other glaring needs.

I just don't think they need another d-man nearly as much as they do a LW. Campbell is a nice to have. 1LW is a got to have.

And I don't think they can spend $7 million right now without losing someone else's salary.
- John Jaeckel

There's no way you can give Soupy 3m per...I'd love to have him back...but you can't afford it. I still don't understand the rush to sign AA to that extension last year - was Stan trying to stick it to Saad after the trade? It smacks of the Rundblad resigning - once again Stan trying to show he's smarter than everyone else and failing badly. Just ask Jim Nill. As far as Anisimov - Kane was leading the league in scoring the year before when he got hurt...they did fine with Richards...at the same time AA is the only one besides Shaw who will go to the net and played a big role for them last season. Shaw's gone and if it's AA or CC - Crawford is more important to this team. He's won two Cups and is getting paid accordingly. Take a look at the Finals last season against Tampa - Crawford was stellar.

From a PR standpoint I'm sure the Hawks want Soupy back...but
I think McD is already looking ahead to when we get Sharp back next season on a hometown discount...

Don't want to dampen your enthusiasm but Sami Vatanen is Finland's only decent NHL dman.
- Al[/quot
Show me a man with no enthusiasm and I will show you a man that is listless.

And if it is between Chi and Dal, all Stan has to say is, 'you want those goalies behind you or CC?'. Done and DONE.
- blackhawk24

Except to Campbell, Niemi is a goalie he played in front of to win a cup before. If how Nashville players thought of Rinne this past year is any indication, Campbell probably doesn't have a low opinion of Niemi. Last year was Niemi's first sub-league average year, too, so it could be an outlier. Better defense in front of him and he'd probably go back up. Lehtonen is the one with back to back terrible seasons.

There's also the draw of Sharp, who Campbell is friends with and was able to talk Oduya into signing with Dallas.

With 51, and if Kempny is as advertised, I would argue it would be the best Hawk defense we've seen.

And while that's great, still gotta get a winger. Or two.
- John Jaeckel

JJ- love your insight. This is an honest question not trying to be an a-hole. I see the glaring hole at wing like everyone but is it really worse than the years of a glaring hole at 2 center? Why not move Panarin with 19 and then let Kane be Kane. He has produced with no center and average wings on his line most of career. He has a center to get puck then get in front and rotate the lw until something sticks. Of course it would be great to have a "real top 6" but we have always had holes now it is lw instead of center.

Looks decent. They got the cash? Vezey is a longshot we all know. Ship is a big question mark. Colborne is coming off a $1.275M AAV. Stupid money says that goes past $2M.
- blackhawk24

Maybe that's where an AA for prospect/picks comes in? Spitballing here totally I know.

Vesey- Toews - Hossa
Panarin - Ship(Kruger) - Kane
Panik - Kruger(Ship) - Colbourne
Desi - Raz - Hartmann/McNeill

Keith - Seabs
Campbell - Hammer
TVR - Kemp
Gus/Sved

Can you go to war with this? Can the $$ work and still resign 72?

There's no way you can give Soupy 3m per...I'd love to have him back...but you can't afford it. I still don't understand the rush to sign AA to that extension last year - was Stan trying to stick it to Saad after the trade? It smacks of the Rundblad resigning - once again Stan trying to show he's smarter than everyone else and failing badly. Just ask Jim Nill. As far as Anisimov - Kane was leading the league in scoring the year before when he got hurt...they did fine with Richards...at the same time AA is the only one besides Shaw who will go to the net and played a big role for them last season. Shaw's gone and if it's AA or CC - Crawford is more important to this team. He's won two Cups and is getting paid accordingly. Take a look at the Finals last season against Tampa - Crawford was stellar.

From a PR standpoint I'm sure the Hawks want Soupy back...but
I think McD is already looking ahead to when we get Sharp back next season on a hometown discount...
- DK002

Eh, he 'rushed' to sign Anisimov because it's most teams try to lock up players the year before they turn UFA. That's pretty much common sense. His value as a player is pretty well established.

And outside of the the last third of the season, Anisimov might have been able to ask for more as the result of his contribution to the most productive line in the NHL. Not points obvs, but all the other things that go into making a line successful (which are quantifiable and the Hawks assuredly track). Another defensive center may have been as successful, it's hard to tell, but Anisimov contract and the speed at which it was signed is/were fine.

Campbell has made over $60 mill in his career and supposedly wants only a one year deal. He's one guy that can sacrifice a million to be where he wants...Give him $3 mill for a year and be done.
- Al

Like I said earlier Al, I have to see Campbell leave one dime on the table before I believe it. Guy has been over paid for a long, long time.