Crawford has BOTH a NMC and a modified NTC, wherein he would be asked to submit a list of 8 teams to which he would accept a trade. What is not clear is when his Modified NTC kicks in (or if it has already).

Kruger has a similar setup (NMC with MNTC), as does Seabrook.

Seabrook's MNTC does not kick in until the last two years of his deal.

Kruger's kicks in AFTER the first year of his.

Kruger's calls for a list of 7 teams he would NOT accept a trade to. More club-friendly.

Seabrook's calls for 5-7 (in that range, I don't recall exactly) he would accept a deal to the first year and 10 teams the second year—which is the last year of his deal.
- John Jaeckel

Crawford would still have to waive the NMC part first before they can even ask him for a list of teams. The NTC is an addition on top of the NMC to give the player a little more control if they're willing to waive/lose the NMC before it's time is up and are usually given to players who will take less term. Hjammer contract is the same way.

Though for Crow, the cap sites don't agree on what his clauses are: https://www.capfriendly.com/players/corey-crawford

Kruger does not have a NMC - he just has a M-NTC for the last two years. Edit: Didn't see you corrected yourself, nvm.

Anisimov has a full NMC for two years, then a M-NTC for a year (lists 10 teams that he can be traded to), and then nothing his final two years.

So how cheap are we talking here with Campbell? Like 1 year 1mil? less than 1mil? Would he really take a discount like that?
- SimpleJack

He probably asks for a TiVo clause in his contract.

Even if he gets kidnapped by flaming dragon

So how cheap are we talking here with Campbell? Like 1 year 1mil? less than 1mil? Would he really take a discount like that?
- SimpleJack

Geez..can't see that. Never know I guess. Be surprised if he went for under 1.5 per.

Friday will start the craziness. I think the Hawks will unload at least one, maybe two, of their bigger contracts.

Friday will start the craziness. I think the Hawks will unload at least one, maybe two, of their bigger contracts.
- Hank3Henshaw

Everyone but Kruger with a big contract will have a NMC by Friday with 4+ years remaining.

Friday will start the craziness. I think the Hawks will unload at least one, maybe two, of their bigger contracts.
- Hank3Henshaw

That would happen by Thursday, if they do it

I think this HAS to happen this year for us to have any shot at NOT being only a 1-line team. Make the lottery spot on Kane's LW. He could make Schmaltz and Motte look decent in that slot.
- DMChi2010

Someone asked earlier who else besides Toews and AA is going to go to the net. I'd say Motte, he's a grinder on the boards and doesn't hesitate to go to the net. But in a third or fourth line role. It'd be pushing it for this season, but given a year or two I could see him maybe filling that spot.

That would happen by Thursday, if they do it
- furso27

I was thinking Friday by noon with the Free Agent Frenzy. But, Thursday is cool with me. Just want some news to happen

Many players will have No-Movement Clauses tied to their contracts with Partial or Modified No-Trade Clauses. These prevent the team from moving the player via loan or waivers, but give the team some options for trading the player.

I think this is what Craw has. he cannot be sent down or waived but since he has a partial no trade clause this means he can be traded within the parameters of the MOD NTC.

Was suppose to be Shaw 2.o right ?
- mrpaulish

There 's been about 3 Shaw II's in the last couple of years.

Shouldn't these NMC and NTC Bowman is handing out have some sort of monetary value? I am not exactly sure how a negotiation between a GM and player's agent goes but to me they should have value. Ex: a NMC should be worth $250k-$350k of the AVV of the contract.

That is my lawyerly line of thinking as every bit of cap space helps. Seeing all of these Hawks players have them and still have AVVs around market value is a bit perplexing. Could be way off though.

Many players will have No-Movement Clauses tied to their contracts with Partial or Modified No-Trade Clauses. These prevent the team from moving the player via loan or waivers, but give the team some options for trading the player.

I think this is what Craw has. he cannot be sent down or waived but since he has a partial no trade clause this means he can be traded within the parameters of the MOD NTC.
- kmw4631

NMC is usually more important to an older player towards the end of his career.

Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger

Character is always wanted/needed. Still early and at least 10 teams have expressed interest in Dale Weise. @daleweise22

I know NMC/NTC are to get guys to sign, but they really handcuff organizations.

Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger

Character is always wanted/needed. Still early and at least 10 teams have expressed interest in Dale Weise. @daleweise22
- jt19

I'm one of maybe three guys on this board that is a Weise fan. Still think he wasn't used like she should have been. Would be cool to see him help out another team and find some success.

Many players will have No-Movement Clauses tied to their contracts with Partial or Modified No-Trade Clauses. These prevent the team from moving the player via loan or waivers, but give the team some options for trading the player.

I think this is what Craw has. he cannot be sent down or waived but since he has a partial no trade clause this means he can be traded within the parameters of the MOD NTC.
- kmw4631

Incorrect - a player with any form of NMC cannot be traded without them waiving the clause, even if they have an addition NTC clause. The NTC part is only triggered after they waive the NMC. These players are more likely to waive a NMC because they have the additional protection of the NTC, which would carry over if traded to a team on their list and/or if the receiving team is willing to uphold it if they are not on the list (ala Campbell).

Excerpt from the CBA:

11.8 Individually Negotiated Limitations on Player Movement.

(c) A no-move clause may prevent the involuntary relocation of a Player, whether by Trade, Loan or Waiver claim. A no-move clause, however, may not restrict the Club's Buy-Out and termination rights as set forth in this Agreement. Prior to exercising its Ordinary Course Buy-Out rights pursuant to Paragraph 13 of the SPC hereof, the Club shall, in writing in accordance with the notice provisions in Exhibit 3 hereof, provide the Player with the option of electing to be placed on Waivers. The Player will have twenty-four (24) hours from the time he receives such notice to accept or reject that option at his sole discretion, and shall so inform the Club in writing, in accordance with the notice provisions in Exhibit 3 hereof, within such twenty-four (24) hour period. If the player does not timely accept or reject that option, it will be deemed rejected.

When it comes to Soupy, I think of the old saying about encountering a bear while being with a friend. Soupy doesn't have to be his old self (or even 4D), he just needs to be better than Rundblad.

Clarification, Kruger only has a MNTC after the first year, no NMC.

Specifics of Crawford's deal (to the extent it's available):

http://www.generalfanager.com/players/480
- John Jaeckel

JJ,
Do players submit a list of teams they won't accept a trade to every year?
A team that is on their list might look OK a year or two later. Or do they present their list at a time when a trade is in the works?

When it comes to Soupy, I think of the old saying about encountering a bear while being with a friend. Soupy doesn't have to be his old self (or even 4D), he just needs to be better than Rundblad.
- JGould70

Classic. Was thinking the same. Going to take one look across the room and say "Sorry... gonna need to make more than him"

JJ,
Do players submit a list of teams they won't accept a trade to every year?
A team that is on their list might look OK a year or two later. Or do they present their list at a time when a trade is in the works?
- Bustov22

The player presents a list when asked by the org, usually if they want to explore trade options.

JJ,
Do players submit a list of teams they won't accept a trade to every year?
A team that is on their list might look OK a year or two later. Or do they present their list at a time when a trade is in the works?
- Bustov22

My 2 cents..
No-No-...Almost always a player is not asked unless a trade is under strong consideration.

He was a schmuck, but he was our schmuck. Ditka coulda been great, but he went 100% loco clown shoes outer limits after he started to idolize his own star and would often change the actual jet stream by fanning the flames of his own burning self interest.
- kwolf68

Ditka is the smartest man in the room.

Just ask him.

Enough Bear Banter for now.

Hockey topics....

I would like them to sign Soup for a year or two. I think it has to be near $2 mil for self respect reasons (with no trade clause (or gentlemen's agreement)- otherwise why would he come).

With him and Kempny and with TVR, Gus, Sved having last year's experience under their belt I think the Hawks defense would be markedly improved.

Now we can probably add one $2 mil forward and fill out the rest of the roster with young guys. It has to be a 1 year deal, because of cap uncertainty, and you are hoping one of the young guys steps forward during this year, and you do not want to hamstring yourself because you need to resign Panarin next year and want all the cap room that you can get. Who should that one forward be? I think it is unrealistic to get a true #1LW or #2LW for that price. Ladd won't go that low or that short term. I do not think any high profile forward will. Maybe you go for faceoff specialist, or penalty kill specialist, or someone like Shaw that you can move up and down your lineup that can play center or either wing, an instigator/sand paper guy?

Do you bring back Weise at $1mil+/-?
Do you bring back Fleischmann at $1mil+/-?
Does a full training camp / season change things for them? Are they better then Motte, Schmaltz, Hartmann, Lundberg, Hinistroza, Baun, McNeil?

Personally I would sign Fleischmann and Weise. Let the young guys battle for the final two spots. Two many young guys slows their development.

He probably asks for a TiVo clause in his contract.

Even if he gets kidnapped by flaming dragon
- hawkeytalkman

When it comes to Soupy, I think of the old saying about encountering a bear while being with a friend. Soupy doesn't have to be his old self (or even 4D), he just needs to be better than Rundblad.
- JGould70

Way to set the bar man....