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HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jun 27 @ 7:56 PM ET
i see what you did there.
- TTtime


Beat me to it.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 27 @ 7:57 PM ET
Hopefully can be a combo of Ben Smith/Andrew Shaw. PK guy who can slot up the 3rd and 4th line. Maybe some PP net presence.
- 93Joe


Ben Smith is a 27 yr old UFA.............
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 27 @ 7:59 PM ET
Remember as Al likes to point out, they lost Oduya last year over $400K.
- vabeachbear


Yep, every penny counts.
HamiltonHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.13.2015

Jun 27 @ 8:07 PM ET
I know this was in junior and there is a size differential with Dumba, but it's a great fight nonetheless:



- DarthKane

Wow they were really tossing them, would be a nice storey if he could make the Hawks this year
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 27 @ 8:11 PM ET
23 yrs. old and there shouldn't be much need to GET any more motivated.

If Forsberg makes 6 mil Kucherov a far better all around player may start at 7 million asking price.

Good thing Stamkos is signing in....somewhere else....

- wiz1901


Besides the eye test Forseberg has excellent Corsi numbers the last 2 years. Surprised you're not a fan....... I think this was a very good signing for NSH both in term and dollar for the 22 yr old. Comparable salaries: http://www.generalfanager...comparables?contract=4858

Kid reminds me a lot of a younger Sharp, sniper, but better hands and way farther along at his age than Sharpy.
Frenchy4488
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Joined: 02.24.2016

Jun 27 @ 8:14 PM ET
Latta has stood out in the few games I have seen him play. Would definately be an upgrade over "mash mess"
- ikeane


I liked him when he was in Milwaukee w/ the admirals, though I can't say I followed him as much w/ the caps... Def was an energy guy who wasn't afraid to throw down. Don't think he ever produced much in the NHL offensively though
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 27 @ 8:14 PM ET
And more importantly (for the Blackhawks FO + Fans), what do those two contracts mean for Artemi Panarin? He outproduced both players last year as a rookie....
- EnzoD


I think Pan look for 6 mil per with term. IF he wants to be a Hawk. Kid doesn't know the language that well but he sure knows how to talk about the Hawks' chronic cap problems.
Colbyboy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 12.14.2013

Jun 27 @ 8:22 PM ET
Ben Smith is a 27 yr old UFA.............
- Mr Ricochet


Huge heart...feisty and affordable....in this Cap World more and more the type of player teams need
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 27 @ 8:22 PM ET
You have to figure on the open market he's gonna make at least that....I don't see the math working unless some other people get subtracted.
- kwolf68


The math says if Pan is a Hawk in 2017/18 he's replaces and existing core piece. No other way unless an AA and Kruger go with no salary coming back.

Trade him for a haul of picks + prospects today or less of a haul next year or hope he's offer sheeted next year at 6 mil and take the 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounders.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 27 @ 8:23 PM ET
Don't know if I'd want Schultz...
- DarthKane


He made $3,900,000 you qualitfy on top of that...

If he wants to come chicago as the future Las Vegas sacrifice he can for 1 mil...
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 27 @ 8:23 PM ET
Huge heart...feisty and affordable....in this Cap World more and more the type of player teams need
- Colbyboy


and it was a HUGE concussion...
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 27 @ 8:23 PM ET
Huge heart...feisty and affordable....in this Cap World more and more the type of player teams need
- Colbyboy


Think he was waived by SJS and ended the season as a Marlie (TOR). Is he healthy? I'm a huuuuuge fan of this guy.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 27 @ 8:24 PM ET
I think Pan look for 6 mil per with term. IF he wants to be a Hawk. Kid doesn't know the language that well but he sure knows how to talk about the Hawks' chronic cap problems.
- Mr Ricochet


Wait, he gets Forsberg money off two years in the league?
93Joe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.09.2015

Jun 27 @ 8:27 PM ET
Ben Smith is a 27 yr old UFA.............
- Mr Ricochet

Was referring more to his role with the Hawks. Guy who can PK, play center, and slide up the bottom 2 lines. And with Shaw, his versatility, grit and scoring ability. Hoping he could be a combination of those two individuals.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 27 @ 8:28 PM ET
I know this was in junior and there is a size differential with Dumba, but it's a great fight nonetheless:



- DarthKane


Dumba just went up a notch in my book. He went down from a solid shot and bounced right back up vs a much bigger player........
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 27 @ 8:29 PM ET
Montreal has signed Shaw to a 6 year deal. Haven't seen the cap hit yet.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 27 @ 8:30 PM ET
Wait, he gets Forsberg money off two years in the league?
- wiz1901


Hell if they extend him July 1st it's after ONE year in the league........ As it stands today I think Pan gets 6 mil on the open market, no?

I'm with you though with what you are insinuating. Kid has looked like a long time producer but just the same the body of work is small.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 27 @ 8:30 PM ET
He is a nasty little bugger. Will use his stick to create space. Kid has played his whole career on NA ice. The OHL isn't a league for shrinking violets. He already has put up 2 50 goals seasons in that league.
- TTtime

DeBrincat says he's apower forward, an dbelive he doesn't play small.
He takes the puck away from you, not just in front, where evr he can get close to you.
Its sort of like he closed that little "talking space" you have in a conversation, and before you know it, you pocket is picked.
Still, like Johnny hockey, Conor Sheary, Tyler Johnson you want to see himdo it the highest level, before you wet your pants.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 27 @ 8:33 PM ET
Was referring more to his role with the Hawks. Guy who can PK, play center, and slide up the bottom 2 lines. And with Shaw, his versatility, grit and scoring ability. Hoping he could be a combination of those two individuals.
- 93Joe


IIRC Smith for the most part is a winger. .....Yea, again, IIRC didn't he slide up as the Hawks were down 3-0 in the series with VAN and score a hattrick to keep the series alive?
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 27 @ 8:38 PM ET
6 x 3.9 for Shaw.

Andrew Shaw's six-year deal with #habs is worth $23.4M -- a $3.9M AAV
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jun 27 @ 8:38 PM ET
but he plays center, same with Ship. They need a LW - so out of all the names thrown out, Vesey is the only one who actually plays the position and would not be a stretch to play 1/2 LW ala McGinn
- Sundevil


Trade AA for a 4D and sign Shipyachev or Colborne at a lower AAV? I would rather have StanBo bargain bin shopping so that he can sign extend Panarin this summer. I just dont see how any AAV over $1mil is added without trading another large cap hit....
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 27 @ 8:43 PM ET
6 x 3.9 for Shaw.

Andrew Shaw's six-year deal with #habs is worth $23.4M -- a $3.9M AAV

- mrpaulish


Good for Shaw. Sucks we lost him but at least he got a solid long term deal.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jun 27 @ 8:45 PM ET
I think Pan look for 6 mil per with term. IF he wants to be a Hawk. Kid doesn't know the language that well but he sure knows how to talk about the Hawks' chronic cap problems.
- Mr Ricochet


If I'm Stan, I try to get him at 8 years for $5 mil. If he wants a shorter deal with a larger AAV, try $6 x 6. Can't let this kid go if you want a real shot at a championship in the near future.
jb3333
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 03.27.2013

Jun 27 @ 8:46 PM ET
6 x 3.9 for Shaw.

Andrew Shaw's six-year deal with #habs is worth $23.4M -- a $3.9M AAV

- mrpaulish

Good for Shaw--- wish him the best as a Hab---

He deserves to get paid-- too bad it wasn't with the Hawks

How much of that 6 years will be effective / able to play they way he does--

Anyone think the Hawks would have offered that term knowing what they know about his health record and any guesses on what they wanted to offer? 3.5M x 3?
vandymeer23
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IA
Joined: 10.11.2014

Jun 27 @ 8:46 PM ET
Dumba just went up a notch in my book. He went down from a solid shot and bounced right back up vs a much bigger player........
- Mr Ricochet

Wish McNeil played more like that.
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