Some Frenchie with 26k followers posted this and Tracy M retweeted :

Source: Andrew Shaw has a 6-year offer on the table, at close to 4 million a year.

Tweet from Habs beat writer Marc Antoine Godin (and it is verified)

Source: Andrew Shaw has a 6-year offer on the table, at close to 4 million a year.
- golfbard

What he said

Be warned on McGinn: he thinks he is getting $4.5M- $5M per year for 4 years on his upcoming deal.

Glad to hear Shawzie is getting a $4 million per year deal. That does price him out of the 'Hawks market, however; so the trade was the right thing to do.
I suspect, due to the cap, there is going to be a plethora of affordable free agent veterans who will ultimately be available at affordable prices. This makes for an opportunity for the 'Hawks.

Quick question, I like Shaw as a player but will he be missed or easily replaced? Plus will he be worth $4m?

Torn on McGinn. Hes played a lot but is only 27 so maybe he is hitting his stride. Hes really never been more than a 20 goal scorer and thats happened maybe once or twice. So maybe he blossoms like say an Adam Graves who was a fourth liner in edmonton until he was dealt to the rangers and played alongside Messier and became a 40/50 goal scorer. Id take 30 from him playing next to Tazer.
- golfbard

30? Don't see that happening. Hossa didn't hit 20 last year he still has more skill than McGinn. I also don't see how we can sign him. Unless he comes in at under 2 mil. Have to figure if he sees what Shaw is getting he will want a similar deal. Very similar offensive players.

Why can't Stan find us another LW from Russia with size and speed!!

How about a 1 yr flyer on Vrbata. He can most definitely score. Doesn't play much defense, and not sure if he is a possession type guy. And not sure he can play left wing.

How about a 1 yr flyer on Vrbata. He can most definitely score. Doesn't play much defense, and not sure if he is a possession type guy. And not sure he can play left wing.
- hockey nut 28

He's not coming cheap, he can score goals.....

Can't trade Hossa because of cap recapture penalties which would be catastrophic as discussed ad naseum on these boards. It's the price the HAwks have to pay (and I suspect would gladly pay again) or what he's brought to the team and city. We can cry all we want about the injustice of a legal contract suddenly becoming illegal with a new CBA, but in the end we still are where we are. So, no, trading Hossa is not a solution.

Did you see what Yandle is getting paid and the term? There is a dearth of top Dmen right now and they are commanding a high price IF you can trade for one. So would it be nice for the Seabrook contract to be at a lower AAV? Yup. But I would also like someone to give me a million dollars. Not gonna happen in this climate.

Crawford will be difficult to trade due to what the expansion draft and the inability to protect more than one goalie. Teams are trading or trying to trade some pretty talented guys - Elliott, Bishop etc all on the market at the same time because if you can't get something for them ahead of next year's expansion you risk losing them for nothing. Hawks have been for the last several weeks/months adding goalies.
- Marlowe

Thanks Marlowe...

Thanks for the updates John...

As Marlowe mentioned the Hawks have kicked the tires on Hudler before - wonder what he's looking for...again you're bargain shopping here at Costco. Does Hudler allow you to move AA or Kruger? And now you're possibly creating another weakness at center. AA outside of Shaw is one of the only guys that plants in front of the net. And now we don't have Shaw. And your PK certainly won't improve w/o Krugs.

I certainly think Soupy at a low hit solidifies the defensive depth...something they sorely lacked this spring as well as a true #4...losing Oduya over 400k while resigning Rundblad is not something that you want on your resume.

Have to give Stan credit it only took him three tries to figure out trading a guy for picks at the draft causes the least damage...see Leddy and Sharp. But while Bowman can claim this team is out of the woods in regard to the cap the Panarin contract is warming up in the bullpen. So unless you're going to move more salary
get ready for a blue plate special in aisle 5 shoppers.

Crawford would be the logical choice here, but its a buyers market as we've seen with so many high priced goalies on the market.

Should be an interesting few days here as we head to free agency.
- DK002

This is the point that really aggrevates me. This was what I thought was the model. When you have to get rid of good players, you do it for picks, that you then draft, over-develop, and bring to the NHL when they are really good players.

Getting an extra two or three picks a year only increases the chance that you are going to get good players (ie. perfect example was the year they got both Danault and Saad after their own 1st rounder McNeill).

You build what should be one of the top prospect organizations and it lets you move guys out and back fill with seasoned talented youngsters, some of which will become future core guys.

This model was working, and the last 12 months, before this week, they went completely off script and drained the system.

Look at the prospects list over the last 2 years when the Hawks had a top 5 system:

TT, Danault, Johns, Dano.

If those 4 guys had been in Rockford (yes, I know but TT was never seasoned enough to be playing in the league, he should have been in Rockford being over seasoned, remember that is a key part to the plan) and now being ready to move up with the moving out of Shaw, Kruger, would there be such nashing of teeth and thoughts of doom and gloom.

They need to get back on this plan, even if it means no cups for a couple years. They need to move guys when they have to for picks and build the top prospects in the system up.

Otherwise, when it crashes with this current core, its going to be Edmonton ugly for a while.

Glad to hear Shawzie is getting a $4 million per year deal. That does price him out of the 'Hawks market, however; so the trade was the right thing to do.
I suspect, due to the cap, there is going to be a plethora of affordable free agent veterans who will ultimately be available at affordable prices. This makes for an opportunity for the 'Hawks.
- 35Tony0

Its why they shouldn't sign anyone the first week of FA unless its a deal like Soupy accepting a really cheap contract.

Be warned on McGinn: he thinks he is getting $4.5M- $5M per year for 4 years on his upcoming deal.
- kingcong39

Then he won't be here, or anywhere I would assume

Quick question, I like Shaw as a player but will he be missed or easily replaced? Plus will he be worth $4m?
- Ur Not Me

He'll be missed. He was a fan favorite.

Easily replaced? No. In my opinion, the league is moving towards such a fast/skilled finesse game, that guys like Shaw, who are willing to go to the front of the net and take a beating, go into the corners, agitate, play on an edge and be successful in that style, are really becoming few and far between.

How about 2L. Unless AA is traded, we all know 72/15/88 is the first (top) line. Not lime 19/81 are really gonna care anyway.

McGinn would be a nice add. I still think a big salary has to move out.

The problem I see signing some of the free agents mentioned is that they are going to want multi-year contracts and really the Hawks can only give one year deals with Panarin looking to be extended. Any way you slice it, next year's Hawks team is a bubble playoff team in my opinion. For the first time in this new era of Blackhawks hockey things aren't so rosy for McDonough and Co. How will they respond to negative press if things don't go well? The Cubs were easy for McDonough, Wrigley Field, "America's largest beer garden", still sold out when things weren't pretty. Hawks fans will voice their displeasure if things go south. Interesting times indeed for the franchise that has been the darlings of the NHL for the last little while.

Then he won't be here, or anywhere I would assume
- vabeachbear

I liked Mcginn as a Sabre but he isn't worth 4 mil a year. The very top he should get would be 3 mil. He did score over 20 goals this year, and most of them on a bad Sabres team. He is a big body that can make life miserable for opposing goalies. Most of the goals he scores come from near the blue paint.

Hudler/McGinn... Yes neither are what you would consider a #1 LW, but we dont have alot of options right now. Either would be fine in my book as they are veteran players that would blend just fine with 19 or 15. I would still like to see what it would take to get Yak from the Oilers. I think he would flourish on this team.

Anyone think Debrincat can start as a rook? The more of his highlights I see the more I like him.

Hiya JJ! How ya been?

Hudler/McGinn... Yes neither are what you would consider a #1 LW, but we dont have alot of options right now. Either would be fine in my book as they are veteran players that would blend just fine with 19 or 15. I would still like to see what it would take to get Yak from the Oilers. I think he would flourish on this team.

Anyone think Debrincat can start as a rook? The more of his highlights I see the more I like him.
- z1990z

I think Debrincat is heading back to the O for another year.

Hudler/McGinn... Yes neither are what you would consider a #1 LW, but we dont have alot of options right now. Either would be fine in my book as they are veteran players that would blend just fine with 19 or 15. I would still like to see what it would take to get Yak from the Oilers. I think he would flourish on this team.

Anyone think Debrincat can start as a rook? The more of his highlights I see the more I like him.
- z1990z

It won't take a whole hell of a lot, trust me. Ideally a prospect with warts .

Has anyone heard any news on the Vegas team name aside from the Black Knights? Wonder when a logo/colors will be introduced.
- Hank3Henshaw

The Vegas Escorts, black and pink.

Iwould like McGinn......Hudler, not so much....
- hawk35

McGinn was looking for $4 million per before he was traded at the deadline.

He is not worth that much.

Hudler/McGinn... Yes neither are what you would consider a #1 LW, but we dont have alot of options right now. Either would be fine in my book as they are veteran players that would blend just fine with 19 or 15. I would still like to see what it would take to get Yak from the Oilers. I think he would flourish on this team.

Anyone think Debrincat can start as a rook? The more of his highlights I see the more I like him.
- z1990z

In his interview yesterday he said he expects to go back to Erie this year.

As Al likes to say, we need to look at the moves and decisions made by the Hawks in "real time" when passing judgement.

When the Hawks are in a constant pursuit of Cups - with legitimate chances to win it all each season during this "golden era" (and it truly is - just ask anyone who's been a fan for a few decades) there are certain opportunity costs that have to be accepted.

First, trades of key players are usually not going to be when their value is at their highest - but rather when the cap dictates and the situation is forced. Why? Because that player is a piece that helps you win during the season. Should Stan have traded Sharp, Leddy, et al. at the respective trade deadlines - when their value was arguably higher than the off season? No - because they were key in the team's depth for a Cup run. Winning championships is more important than winning trades - so you live with the trade offs.

Also, bemoaning the Hossa contract now is misplaced. Let's remember what a highly sought after commodity he was. Pittsburgh made a trade to get him for a '07 Cup run - then Detroit lured him away for their '08 season. It was a coup and a creative contract structure that landed him on the Hawks to start the '09 campaign - which resulted in the first of the three Cups. The signing of Hossa was absolutely essential - and I'm willing to wager that the Hawks/Hossa will have the last laugh on the cap recapture penalty retroactively issued by the league when Hossa goes out on LTIR ala Pronger.

I could go on, but you get the point...

In his interview yesterday he said he expects to go back to Erie this year.
- vabeachbear

Roger that...