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wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 26 @ 11:28 PM ET
Hawks need...
- SimpleJack


Not a arguably the league's top scoring line, not three elite defencemen to surround, not a goalie, not a wily veteran wing who leads with his terrific away from the pick defensive play, not a leader / will to win elite centre...


I can name at very least 20 teams that don'y have those "parts."

Bubble team?

Every true Blackhawk fan should still be bubbling up with enthusiam because of what is still in place
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 26 @ 11:30 PM ET
Someone wake stan up. First trade of the day is done. Pysyk and picks to panthers for kulikov and picks
- ikeane


Pysyk is a grade wussy and everyone know it and they can't afford the one the Sabres acquired...

Is Tallon sick b/c he didn't look good at the draft...and I don't think it was just the fact they took the wheel out of his hand...
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 26 @ 11:31 PM ET
Wiz, your opinion on Libor Hajek?
- 93Joe


Aggressive mobile dee-man with decent skills and can move the puck offensively. Strong and thick-bodied. Plays with good intensity and awareness. Takes the body, pins/seals on the wall and wins puck battles. Has a long stick and is decisive when advancing the puck. His skating is high end; excellent in his stop/starts, and his first steps. Light on his edges and very aware of positioning in his end. A good passer and despite being new to the North American ice surface, has shown much to like in his first year.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 26 @ 11:32 PM ET
Hawks draft with Debrincat the #39 overall pick

Ranked #29 overall by NHL central scouting

- hawkeytalkman


Ranked #42 by DraftSite.com (I just figured Ottawa would bite needing scoring)
Ranked #33 by Hockeyprospect.com
Ranked #26 by ISS Hockey
Ranked #25 by Future Considerations
Ranked #37 by McKeen's Hockey
Ranked #21 by NHL Central Scouting (NA Skaters)
Ranked #33 by TSN/McKenzie

Selected 39th overall
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 26 @ 11:32 PM ET
Help JJ!


I go to hockeyBuzz and get pulled to the old pages....
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 26 @ 11:32 PM ET
That pick was brutal
A smurf that will never make the league

- Yikes726


I was of the same ilk as you even after the rule changes until two seasons ago sitting three rows from the glass at the half boards and saw the 5' 8" Tyler Johnson come to play in that February game against the Hawks and he was one of the better players on the ice.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 26 @ 11:32 PM ET
Blackhawks have a whopping 10 picks today: 39, 45, 50, 83, 95, 113, 143, 144, 173, 203.
- Marlowe



I know they got an extra 2017 6th round pick for the switch to 110 from 95, but still trying to figure out what 144 yielded from St. Louis...the trade was the hawks acquiring a 2017 St. Lous Blues 5th rounder.

The 144 pick was 8 from the end of the 5th round...so this tells me one or two of the following were true:

a) The hawks looked at their board and figured Denver U. Sophomore prospect (D Blake Hillman) was probably be there...or was a long term developmental "chance."


b) the Blackhawks staff think that 2017 is a thicker draft.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 26 @ 11:33 PM ET
You want to know what a good day's work is for an NHL manager?

Kenny Holland frees up the money to sign Steven Stamkos, by sending Pavel Datsyuk's contract to Arizona to help them get to the Cap floor with the price being
(or we thought) a simple exchange of Detroit's #16 slot dropping down to slot #20...it gives Coyotes Jakob Chychrun and Detroit gets to draft a developmental defenseman, Dennis Cholowski , on his way to st. Cloud State.
Wait, there is more...
Holland also got the #53 overall compensatory pick which he used to select defense prospect Filip Hronek.

Two chances for a safe bet that Chychrun is at least a 2nd pair defender.

it's all in the details...
Detroit acquired this, the Arizona Coyotes' compensatory second-round pick (53rd overall) will go to the Detroit Red Wings as the result of a trade on June 24, 2016 that sent Pavel Datsyuk and a first-round pick in 2016 (16th overall) to Arizona in exchange for Joe Vitale, the Rangers' first-round pick in 2016 (20th overall) and this pick.[10]
Arizona previously received this pick as compensation for not signing 2014 first-round draft pick Conner Bleackley, whom they acquired in an earlier trade with Colorado.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 26 @ 11:33 PM ET
You want to know what a good day's work is for an NHL manager?

Kenny Holland frees up the money to sign Steven Stamkos, by sending Pavel Datsyuk's contract to Arizona to help them get to the Cap floor with the price being
(or we thought) a simple exchange of Detroit's #16 slot dropping down to slot #20...it gives Coyotes Jakob Chychrun and Detroit gets to draft a developmental defenseman, Dennis Cholowski , on his way to st. Cloud State.
Wait, there is more...
Holland also got the #53 overall compensatory pick which he used to select defense prospect Filip Hronek.

Two chances for a safe bet that Chychrun is at least a 2nd pair defender.

it's all in the details...
Detroit acquired this, the Arizona Coyotes' compensatory second-round pick (53rd overall) will go to the Detroit Red Wings as the result of a trade on June 24, 2016 that sent Pavel Datsyuk and a first-round pick in 2016 (16th overall) to Arizona in exchange for Joe Vitale, the Rangers' first-round pick in 2016 (20th overall) and this pick.[10]
Arizona previously received this pick as compensation for not signing 2014 first-round draft pick Conner Bleackley, whom they acquired in an earlier trade with Colorado.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 26 @ 11:33 PM ET
Hopefully pick 45 is a kid above 5'10"
- 93Joe



He is by an inch...LOL

The position of defense has changed so much...if you can get it up out and up you are more valuable than a hulking slower to react big body.

Krys two strides and he is out of his end, temedously mobile, and a good passer, active stick, and shot blocker.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 26 @ 11:34 PM ET
Nothing there on the Russian, is he that much of a pick out of left field?
- vabeachbear


http://www.draftsite.com/...ayer/artur-kayumov/25564/

Somehow the guy who was supposedly helping me with reassigning the slotting whe there were trades had the player profiles somehow going to empty files with their names on it.
Wanna look foolish?
Yesterday I mailed the links to Adam Kempenaar b/c in the past he used the ones he liked (the ones that were flattering) on the hawk site, more looks for Draftsite.com etc.
This morning I go to look over the site (Whose micromanaging owner usually is breathing down my neck checking re-checking and doing those sorts of slot changes, but he has a wedding all weekend, and assigns me his friend to "help.")
and I slide and onlt the picks up to 140 are showing.

That's not right I KNOW I changed displayed all yesterday...it turns out, "somehow" it got changed and when I look THE PLAYERS from 140 Rare no longer in there...and I just spend time fixing this)

Anyway go back to my outgoing mail and look and click on the links I sent the hawks Kempenaar and they are all blank too.
I am pretty sure he thinks i am 100% idiot as opposed to 25% now...
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 26 @ 11:41 PM ET
Wiz had the Hawks taking him in the 7th round
- hawkeytalkman



I figured no one else (I mean those that does this scouting stuff Future Considerations, ISS, Red Line, HF, etc.) even saw him.

It is not like Peters was a vacuum cleaner on his traveling Austrian farm team of Red Bull...he played one game for the Salzburg parent club.his etam was under -21 kids from around the world/ They played in the USA, Finland and Switerland tournaments and exhibitions. So they were globe trotting and not playing all that much in Czech republic or at home in Salzburg.

it is just that he is already 6 foot four and moves well side to side up and down a real athlete...
he needs to be brought over sent to the USHL where the hawks have goalie coach there twice a month with a critique for him.

Did they reach?
Maybe, but maybe they felt other clubs had scouts in the rinks there too.

It was clear that the better goalies in this draft were not all that big.
(2017 btw looks like the best goalie crop in years...)
Note my top 90 for next year's 2017 draft are up.
http://www.draftsite.com/nhl/mock-draft/2017/
Ask BobMCkenzie to ask his dozen scout fiends for theirs or Craig Button or Adam Kimelemn or Corey Prohman (boy would I love that job with ESPN, he waffles all year takes no real stands on the prospects and they PAY him!..at least this isn't like the year he was almost crying in defending his incorrect argument that Sasha Barkov "could not be considered a player on the same tier level as the big three, McKinnon, Drouin, & Jones...I guess Barkov took care of that one, since right now he seems the best and most productive so far...

I heard there were lots of different teams scouting Peeters in that Lillehammer tournament in April, and beside NHL scouts the Finn and Swedish teams were trying to sign him.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 26 @ 11:48 PM ET
Ok by the time I get to this reply I am pretty much SURE I am the Last Man standing and something is wrong that I am the only one posting, so post this:

Ok, now I have convinced myself that ALL of you are unable to get in here like I was unable the days before...
so I am just gonna last man on Earth it, continuing to send hockey messages out there.

So one on like page nine was suggesting this...

and then I started thinking, Mark McNeill was always what I called and anchor net front presense with the Prince Albert Raiders when the hawks drafted him, i figured back then, he was goona be the guy in front.
He's 23 and still wants to be hawk more than anything.
Maybe he gets a shot at the front of the net?

and then
pdx2ord
arrives with this post:


Ok, now I have convinced myself that ALL of you are unable to get in here like I was unable the days before...
so I am just gonna last man on Earth it, continuing to send hockey messages out there.
So one on like page nine was suggesting this...
and then I started thinking, Mark McNeill was always what I called and anchor net front presense with the Prince Albert Raiders when the hawks drafted him, i figured back then, he was goona be the guy in front.
He's 23 and still wants to be hawk more than anything.
Maybe he gets a shot at the front of the net?
- wiz1901

- wiz1901


That was me. There is apparently a new blog up that you can see and get to from the HB home page. Ugh.
- pdx2ord



What do I have to change JJ??


Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jun 26 @ 11:49 PM ET
Wow it's the Wiz encyclopedia of the draft! Thanks for posting all this, especially including the links to your player profiles too!
Cmonalready
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 26 @ 11:50 PM ET
Hawks and NJ in preliminary talks, player for player swap where the Hawks would add a little salary, but arguably upgrade the position. More size and speed, probably more production.

Will provide names tomorrow. Again, I was asked to withhold as the talks are "EARLY."

- John Jaeckel


Unfortunately, Hawks have to start thinking about two other things besides their 16/17 roster:
1. Signing Panarin next year, and
2. Vegas expansion draft.

For 1, Hawks need to move another big ($3m+) salary.
For 2, their recent history of giving away NMCs like candy is hurting them. NMCs can't be exposed to the expansion draft, which is hurting the Hawks flexibility for dealing with that expansion draft.

So my thinking:
A trade of Krug for Henrique might make sense. Krug has NMC, so can't be exposed to Vegas next year. From the looks of it, Henrique does not. So we get Henrique this year, and can expose him next year. Attractive enough that he'd be grabbed by Vegas, opening cap space for Panarin. This sort of trade helps the team this year, but also helps with both 1 and 2 for next year.

I'm not saying this is the trade. I don't know Henrique at all. But if you're looking to figure out the Hawks next trade, I suggest you think about 1 and 2 as much as the 16/17 roster.
spanky
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:55 PM ET
I am really flabbergasted of the large number of people on this sight think nothiiig of it of trading AA. Sure we paid 5 mil for him but he has been our best 2nd line the Hawks have had in a long, long time. Quite frankly, AA was stronger in front of the opponents goal area that Toews was last year at less than halve the cost of Toews salary . I do agree though his face off skills need to be better. Furthermore, TRADING AA WOULD NOT BE A WISE CHOICE because Panarin will think twice about signing a new contract. Russians are very loyal to their comrades.

In my opinion, trading Seabrook and Crawford would give you the flexibility and cap space to get a quality D man and a scoring Left Winger for the first or second line .
hawkeytalkman
Joined: 01.11.2016

Jun 27 @ 12:07 AM ET
Unfortunately, Hawks have to start thinking about two other things besides their 16/17 roster:
1. Signing Panarin next year, and
2. Vegas expansion draft.

For 1, Hawks need to move another big ($3m+) salary.
For 2, their recent history of giving away NMCs like candy is hurting them. NMCs can't be exposed to the expansion draft, which is hurting the Hawks flexibility for dealing with that expansion draft.

So my thinking:
A trade of Krug for Henrique might make sense. Krug has NMC, so can't be exposed to Vegas next year. From the looks of it, Henrique does not. So we get Henrique this year, and can expose him next year. Attractive enough that he'd be grabbed by Vegas, opening cap space for Panarin. This sort of trade helps the team this year, but also helps with both 1 and 2 for next year.

I'm not saying this is the trade. I don't know Henrique at all. But if you're looking to figure out the Hawks next trade, I suggest you think about 1 and 2 as much as the 16/17 roster.

- Cmonalready


Problem is NJ would NEVER swap Kruger for Henrique

Henrique is a good two way center in his own right

Henrique also just scored 30 goals and has two 50+ point seasons on his resume (four 43+ pt seasons as well)

No GM in their right mind is trading Henrique for Kruger who has a career high of 28 pts. Kruger is a solid player, but this is so laughably lopsided to the CHI side

If anything Id trade Anisimov for Henrique, but that would actually be cutting salary and not sure why NJD would consider making that swap either
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jun 27 @ 12:09 AM ET
Ok by the time I get to this reply I am pretty much SURE I am the Last Man standing and something is wrong that I am the only one posting, so post this:

Ok, now I have convinced myself that ALL of you are unable to get in here like I was unable the days before...
so I am just gonna last man on Earth it, continuing to send hockey messages out there.

So one on like page nine was suggesting this...

and then I started thinking, Mark McNeill was always what I called and anchor net front presense with the Prince Albert Raiders when the hawks drafted him, i figured back then, he was goona be the guy in front.
He's 23 and still wants to be hawk more than anything.
Maybe he gets a shot at the front of the net?

and then
pdx2ord
arrives with this post:







What do I have to change JJ??

- wiz1901


Wiz, I'd love for McNeill to be An answer this year. I get the feeling that in order for that to happen he almost needs to not just beat out other prospects, but roster players in order to "prove" to Q he is capable. In seeing him a few times last year I think he can be a really good bottom six, but it just seems like the deck is stacked against him.
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jun 27 @ 12:11 AM ET
I am really flabbergasted of the large number of people on this sight think nothiiig of it of trading AA. Sure we paid 5 mil for him but he has been our best 2nd line the Hawks have had in a long, long time. Quite frankly, AA was stronger in front of the opponents goal area that Toews was last year at less than halve the cost of Toews salary . I do agree though his face off skills need to be better. Furthermore, TRADING AA WOULD NOT BE A WISE CHOICE because Panarin will think twice about signing a new contract. Russians are very loyal to their comrades.

In my opinion, trading Seabrook and Crawford would give you the flexibility and cap space to get a quality D man and a scoring Left Winger for the first or second line .

- spanky

Freidman verified Twitter (6/26/16 8:42 & 8:43 pm):
#1
Since my KHL news from earlier today was so well-received😬, let's try another. There are rumblings tonight Vadim Shipachyov...
#2
who we were told could not come to the NHL for 2016-17, may still be a possibility. Let's see where this one goes, too.

Zawaski's Twitter (6/26/16 10:55 pm):
You may or may not remember that my "trade Anisimov" post was originally centered around Shipachyov. LRT shows he may still be a possiblilty

And, Al
hawkeytalkman
Joined: 01.11.2016

Jun 27 @ 12:16 AM ET
Freidman verified Twitter (6/26/16 8:42 & 8:43 pm):
#1
Since my KHL news from earlier today was so well-received😬, let's try another. There are rumblings tonight Vadim Shipachyov...
#2
who we were told could not come to the NHL for 2016-17, may still be a possibility. Let's see where this one goes, too.

Zawaski's Twitter (6/26/16 10:55 pm):
You may or may not remember that my "trade Anisimov" post was originally centered around Shipachyov. LRT shows he may still be a possiblilty

- Marlowe



Ive been thinking the same thing for weeks. Offseason would be a HOME RUN in my opinion if they traded Anisimov only under the pretense they signed Shipachyov. Him and Panarin already have amazing chemistry and now you throw Kane on that line.

not to mention the clearing of cap space from Anisimov to Shipachyov on top of whatever return you get for Anisimov
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Jun 27 @ 12:28 AM ET
Ok by the time I get to this reply I am pretty much SURE I am the Last Man standing and something is wrong that I am the only one posting, so post this:

Ok, now I have convinced myself that ALL of you are unable to get in here like I was unable the days before...
so I am just gonna last man on Earth it, continuing to send hockey messages out there.

So one on like page nine was suggesting this...

and then I started thinking, Mark McNeill was always what I called and anchor net front presense with the Prince Albert Raiders when the hawks drafted him, i figured back then, he was goona be the guy in front.
He's 23 and still wants to be hawk more than anything.
Maybe he gets a shot at the front of the net?

and then
pdx2ord
arrives with this post:







What do I have to change JJ??

- wiz1901


Wiz - still happening to me, too. When I click on JJ's name or the Indian Head icon on the HB home page, it takes me to the Blackhawks page, but the last blog posted there is "A Change is Gonna Come." I cannot see or get to the newer blogs UNLESS they are still on the HB home page. Once JJ's latest gets bumped from that page due to the volume of other postings from other bloggers, there is no way to get to the current Blackhawks blog. (Hence, my "ugh")

Thanks for all of your insight. Very educational.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jun 27 @ 12:36 AM ET
wiz - I love ya man. You are a treasure and a true asset to JJ's blog. Thanks for your contribution.
TTtime
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 27 @ 12:47 AM ET
Wiz - still happening to me, too. When I click on JJ's name or the Indian Head icon on the HB home page, it takes me to the Blackhawks page, but the last blog posted there is "A Change is Gonna Come." I cannot see or get to the newer blogs UNLESS they are still on the HB home page. Once JJ's latest gets bumped from that page due to the volume of other postings from other bloggers, there is no way to get to the current Blackhawks blog. (Hence, my "ugh")

Thanks for all of your insight. Very educational.

- pdx2ord


Go to the top of the page. Click on bloggers. Click on the blogger you are looking for. The most recent thread should come up first. If not click on archive and the last few blobs will appear in chronological order. The most recent at the bottom of the list.
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Jun 27 @ 1:01 AM ET
Go to the top of the page. Click on bloggers. Click on the blogger you are looking for. The most recent thread should come up first. If not click on archive and the last few blobs will appear in chronological order. The most recent at the bottom of the list.
- TTtime


Thanks! Never navigated to it that way.
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jun 27 @ 3:47 AM ET
Help JJ!


I go to hockeyBuzz and get pulled to the old pages....

- wiz1901


I've had the same problem for a week plus.

Can only access latest post via Bloggers/John Jaeckel.
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