LOL at the thought that JJ has a "source" inside the Blackhawks, that would risk his job peddling info to his buddy to write about on Hockeybuzz...

LOL....LOL
- TheGame316

Enjoy the site for what it is or bounce.

Hockey discussion in June/July. Not hardcore bible fanatic news. This is a place to talk Blackhawks in the summer , rumors be dammed. Doesnt mtter whonhas a source or not everyone here loves the Blackhawks from Stevie Rain Cloud to Wolfie to Philco to me , so many different levels of opinions , insider or not we enjoy talking Blackhawks here so if you wanna rag the host of the blog get bent you loser. Its a rumor website , that never claims to know anything or everything ,


However we are lucky that JJ does know people close to the Hawks and every now and then we get a sneak peak into what the Blackhawks at 1901 W. MADISON are thinking.

Palmari?
- walleyeb1

Like him too

i dont know. i hate the arguments for removing the cap. its frustrating, but i think it adds an awesome element to the competitive nature of the game. and it sucks having some teams that could just buy everything.

@FriedgeHNIC Since my KHL news from earlier today was so well-received😬, let's try another. There are rumblings tonight Vadim Shipachyov...

@FriedgeHNIC who we were told could not come to the NHL for 2016-17, may still be a possibility. Let's see where this one goes, too.

LOL at the thought that JJ has a "source" inside the Blackhawks, that would risk his job peddling info to his buddy to write about on Hockeybuzz...

LOL....LOL
- TheGame316

You know what you know. More tellingly, you don't know what you don't know. And I'm not telling you.

As far as the names, someone nailed it earlier in the thread, FWIW. I will share tomorrow regardless.

You know what you know. More tellingly, you don't know what you don't know. And I'm not telling you.
- John Jaeckel

Jj no need to respond to a tool bag how many adults use lol once let alone three times in a post. Also hope your back issues work out.

As far as the names, someone nailed it earlier in the thread, FWIW. I will share tomorrow regardless.
- John Jaeckel[/quote


I'd imagine at this point anyone being added will depend on whether they will need to be expose to. Vegas in the draft. Which is why I believe so trades are taking even longer to make when factoring that in

Hope it's not AA. Would be big mistake to move him. Creates a gaping hole at C behind Toews. Put 88 with Toews and see what you have with Panik.

Friedman reporting on twitter shiplakov (think thats how you spell it) may come to the nhl anyway and leave the khl. Call him up stan!

Friedman reporting on twitter shiplakov (think thats how you spell it) may come to the nhl anyway and leave the khl. Call him up stan!
- ikeane

Him coming to the Hawks could potentially be huge. Don't get the feeling it happens but that is the kind of potential scoring talent for cheap this team needs to compete.

If NJD are the dance partner it smells like AA for Cammalleri. Solves 19s want for a good LW at a lower cost than other options. Maybe Kruger gets moved up to 2C, thinking 72 and 88 will succeed with a draw winner.

Im not seeing Kruger moved for Henrique. I really think the 1LW hole is what the team's primary focus is. Whether Cam or 72 are the actual 1LW is not critical.

Looks like the hole they are willing to leave open is the bottom six, thinking they would have better luck with kids filling those roles.
- Return of the Roar

This is backwards JJ said we'd be taking a little more salary but an upgrade in position. If it's Cam, it's likely for Kruger.

As far as the names, someone nailed it earlier in the thread, FWIW. I will share tomorrow regardless.
- John Jaeckel

John Moore makes the most sense to me. I think he is a better overall player than TVR and he is also a local kid. Would be a nice PR move after trading a fan favorite in Shawzy.

Ask yourself this. When was Edm more successful? Answer is in two parts: 1. No cap. 2. And probably more important...Much better management.

Could it be, just hypothetically speaking, the Oilers recent management team really doesn't know how to build a champion? Just a smidge of a chance?
- blackhawk24

Edmonton was essentially a farm team in the no cap era.... and Edmonton's recent struggles have nothing to do with the cap whatsoever.

Hard HARD pass on Cammalleri. Yes he is a solid player, but getting older and look at his games played over the past 8 seasons. No thank you. Only season he even sniffed playing the whole one was the shortened lock out season. Initially I thought Anisimov/Henrique but that doesnt improve size so it doesnt make sense to what JJ was saying. I like the idea of Henrique for Kruger+ as long as that + doesnt get absurd. Zajac is a lot of salary for an aging player so I dont see the Hawks wanting that. I think if its Forward its gotta be Henrique, and D would gotta be Moore.

As far as the names, someone nailed it earlier in the thread, FWIW. I will share tomorrow regardless.
- John Jaeckel

Thanks for all the info again JJ,
Any chance tomorrow could mean 12:01 tonight?

John Moore makes the most sense to me. I think he is a better overall player than TVR and he is also a local kid. Would be a nice PR move after trading a fan favorite in Shawzy.
- EnzoD

TVR is from NJ too so they'd both be sent back home.

TVR is from NJ too so they'd both be sent back home.
- Marlowe

If it is Moore he's signed 2 years so he could be exposed and might not picked. But at 1.666 million could be taken in draft

@FriedgeHNIC Since my KHL news from earlier today was so well-received😬, let's try another. There are rumblings tonight Vadim Shipachyov...

@FriedgeHNIC who we were told could not come to the NHL for 2016-17, may still be a possibility. Let's see where this one goes, too.
- hawkshossa81

If any truth to this one.....

It would be uuuuuuuge

Hopefully not for MTL

John Moore makes the most sense to me. I think he is a better overall player than TVR and he is also a local kid. Would be a nice PR move after trading a fan favorite in Shawzy.
- EnzoD

Yeah I think it'sMoore for TVR, does anyone know how many years left on contract. Also after this year will TVRbe looking for new contract that could be the key, have to have cap space for breadman after next year

Hawks and NJ in preliminary talks, player for player swap where the Hawks would add a little salary, but arguably upgrade the position. More size and speed, probably more production.

Will provide names tomorrow. Again, I was asked to withhold as the talks are "EARLY."
- John Jaeckel

Rundblad for Kovalchuk

Back up the truck. The 2017 cup is ours

Yeah I think it'sMoore for TVR, does anyone know how many years left on contract. Also after this year will TVRbe looking for new contract that could be the key, have to have cap space for breadman after next year
- HamiltonHawk

Moore under contract for two more seasons at $1.6 mil

TVR under contract for two more seasons at $825k

If this is the deal I say pass.

TVR is a solid third pair dman IMO, just gets overwhelmed in 2nd pair. John Moore is no different.

I dont see a need to double the salary of your third pair dman, because I watched a lot of John Moore when I used to live in NY and he was on the Rangers. He is no big upgrade over TVR, if at all. Both are 3rd pair NHL dmen, nothing more, nothing less.

Not worth eating more cap space to acquire Moore IMO. Moore a little better skater and passer. TVR the better defensive dman and shotblocker. Give and take from both sides

JJ, I am stuck in the last blog....I don't see the new ones and have been posting with myself for hours...

Thanks Wiz, really appreciate the efforts you put in on this stuff.

When you are done attending to the site, be interested what you think overall of the selections. I can read about the guys on the site, but curious what you think of the draft overall, and maybe picks where you thought hey they can get this guy, and they passed on them.

I know you were high on the guy who went right before the Russian and the one who went after krys.
- vabeachbear

I actually tried to answer this about 4:00 p.m. but it somehow got erased.
I was really thinking what happened would happen, that most the scouting staffs would go off the beaten paths and start mining for gold fairly early and that seemed to be the case. I thought I had a handle on what were basically safre decent developmental projects and then suddenly my board explodes with teams taking defenseman because they are right handed, players because the are large, and rushing to make sure they don't lose out on their pet guys so they take them really early.

A sfar as the Hawks go, I think we can make a solid guess that they where looking forshifty forwards who can play in small space and score with a quick strike, a speedy (2 strides and Krys is gone because he has super leg drive) press type defender, and a big developmental goalie.
A short but still growing Nathan Noel who also understands how back side check like a typical Hawk forward
After those top four picks, they took a big Dane who has tools feet and edge.

I wanna have a do over on the question to me on whether the Hawks should have picked the guys I THOUGHT would be there ahaead of the ones they did pick:

What I am starting to think is even though the Hawks had a list best player available, I think that they picked the guys they were targeting.

When their head scout says they had Wouter Peeters and Artur Kayumov in Chicago for a visit prior to the draft, that they had their sights on them, and since they are Euros, they were gauging the players interests and wanted them comfortable, and ready for suggestions on where to play, when to come etc.
(Forgot about how long their present contracts are for...there are plenty ways to "buy" them...)

...and DeBrincat had a Lake Forest Academy connection (He scored 50 goals there too,lol) in suburban Chicago
and every year there seems to be a close tie that Mark Kelley has with USA hockey and the kids they pick, or they are originally from his home area in Massachusetts...or are Swedish defensemen...even they very last pick Jake Ryczek is a typical hawk deeman, a push the pass press guy.
He is small, but thinks the high pace game and has excellent hands...does he grow?He's 18 so maybe he does...

Just ask me one questions and I wake up the next day with more answers...
When you asked me the question and said Russian, you meant Boris Katchouk a Vancouver-born son of a Russian olympic skater, not German Rubtsov...

So the question was really..."...Did I think they wanted a future replacement for Shaw in Katchouk...over DeBrincat..."

I think every NHL team scouts knew DeBrincat was a very special scorer and Boris was a gritty player on the climb, and also close to a first rounder.

Do I think the Blackhawks would have picked Katchouk over Brincant had he not been selected in the pick before by Tampa?

Apparently Stevie Yzerman did, or was afraid of the possiblity of having two little people in the forward lines with DeBrincat and Tyler Johnson. (Don't believe the yearbooks and rosters that have him more than five foot eight...every small guy ever playing in the NHL seems to grow an inch or so after being drafted or opening day, in print.

I have a feeling the Hawks had DeBrincat higher on their list with knowing their furture need for scoring, and seeing Conor Sheary had a big impact in their run/team.

Had Katchouk slide to 45, I am pretty sure they take him there and forgo taking one of the other of their next two picks until later, or forgo taking Artur Kayumov at all, or even passing on the quick burst press defender who needs to learn to play dee in Chad Krys.

But their are an amazing amount of plusses in the selection of DeBrincat.
He is a little like Nic Petan of the Jets who I pooh-poohed as an option, but after seeing Petan play in the NHL, it's clear he belongs.
DeBrincat has a special nose and feel for the attack, and we can all laugh when he says he is "a poor forward," well, he kinda IS.

He rarely gets hit, and maybe it's the case like with football running backs and the idea of low center of gravity on the bowling ball type.
But there is not freaking way you or I can discount how he simply wins the battles in the "battle areas" and has that special IQ and sense to slip into the soft areas before they opposition knows it and FINISHES.
(I have a good friend and ever since the Blackhawks took Teravainen, he has used the words "set-up guy" in every sentence he used TT's name.)
This kid is a finisher. He is so darn short area quick, he is outside the right circle, the puck rebound he set's up elsewhere, darts back the the center slot that was vacated for the pass, etc.
And "the gnat" takes the puck away from players, he beats them, he bodies with them and he gets the puck. When he has to, like Panarin they lose those battles to try and regain it from him.

That is a lot praise, and it is not rah rah stuff I spew as a hawk fan boy.

Sure, his success was tied to great elite junior players, but that doesn't diminish that he also is not a great junior player. Most guys put out their with star juniors do not cash in on the opportunities.

Some are anxious to see Schmaltz on the wing with Toews...me, I want to see thus kid there lined up with Toews and Hossa on the PP, or with the Kane line with 88 starting as the point man.

DeBrincat is fearless.

and Artur Kayumov is a mean tough little guy too who has more anchor right now that TT seem to have last year.

With most of the prospects in this draft you figure there are only a few who win jobs in the NHL quickly (but...the draft is now the pre-eminent CAP relief...)

It seems in all likelihood,
Matthews stays in Toronto,
Patrik Laine, barring a total brainfart in foot movemnet and position also does in Winnipeg,
The beast, Pierre-Luc Dubois is NHL ready...maybe not as a big time scorer, but...
(BTW Montreal had a deal in place to drop down and take him...it wasn't until it fell through the 18 hours prior to the draft that they secured Shaw...b/c they expected to add Dubois as their front presence.)

same goes with Jesse Puljujärvi in Edmonton, if they make some roster space.

Also Matthew Tkachuk and even Logan Brown look like they will basically have to crap the bed to not be playing for Flames/Senators.

And DeBrincat might be the last of "closer than you think" prospects becaus ehe has a rare gift. He takes it away in the front and let's it fly before you know he go it and let it go.

On Krys: He has incredible ste of pistons and gets to top speed really fast.
The issues is he ahs to grow an engagement game and sense when he has to defend, even in the middle zone.

I don't know if he wa injured, but he just didn't look like he improved from the season before in that area. Was there an hiddem nagging injury? I dunno. Some say that scouting is full of fickle "hat ave you done for me lately" -type evaluators, and because everyone got to see Krys and had an option, they found new flavors and upside in other defenders.

I just know I was one who saw the weaknesses too.

But kids and college - they get to grow in all phases of the sport.
Jimmy vesey WAS clearly a 3rd round pick when Nashville took him...he grew his game to the level that everyody wants to sign him.

So Krys can build on the hockey gifts he has too.

That was again rather long, but hopefully informative...it is just I felt like I missed the party yesterday as I was alone on an island having to do all the parts on DraftSite alone & still pissed that the owner hasn't correct the traded slottings (since he won't give me access..)


Here are those profiles again:
http://www.draftsite.com/...yer/alex-debrincat/22936/

http://www.draftsite.com/...l/player/chad-krys/22461/

http://www.draftsite.com/...ayer/artur-kayumov/25564/

http://www.draftsite.com/...yer/wouter-peeters/26051/

http://www.draftsite.com/...yer/lucas-carlsson/22728/

http://www.draftsite.com/...player/nathan-noel/21084/

http://www.draftsite.com/...layer/mathias-from/25677/

http://www.draftsite.com/...ayer/blake-hillman/21716/

http://www.draftsite.com/.../james-jake-ryczek/25625/