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Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:08 PM ET
The teams who could afford Carter, need Carter and hed actually consider going to would be pretty limited... any way you slice it, those 3 assets would be a very attractive package to a team who cant take any salary back, its pobably a better return than what Toronto got for Kessel
- obie

I think you have to upgrade Mccarron. He's not a very attractive prospect to teams in my opinion. Also, have to remember Bergevin just won't trade 1st round picks for whatever reason.
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:09 PM ET
So hes a legitimate top 6 forward... which was my point
- obie

Yes supporting your point. Don't sound so angry.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 26 @ 1:14 PM ET
Probably best suites to be on the 2nd line. Unfortunately habs expect him to be a top line player.
- cburgess


When the year starts those are just numbers to identity the lines... Gallagher will be somewhere on the 1st 2 lines...
cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.31.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:15 PM ET
I think you have to upgrade Mccarron. He's not a very attractive prospect to teams in my opinion. Also, have to remember Bergevin just won't trade 1st round picks for whatever reason.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

He traded jared tinordi for John Scott for (frank) sakes.
cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.31.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:15 PM ET
When the year starts those are just numbers to identity the lines... Gallagher will be somewhere on the 1st 2 lines...
- obie

Which is a major problem. Every team needs a legit top line. Not 2 decent lines.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 26 @ 1:16 PM ET
I think you have to upgrade Mccarron. He's not a very attractive prospect to teams in my opinion. Also, have to remember Bergevin just won't trade 1st round picks for whatever reason.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0


I said Bergevin wouldn't do it in the original post, I was only throwing a package together as an example in a reply to someone saying Habs had no assets to get Carter, which they do
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:16 PM ET
He traded jared tinordi for John Scott for (frank) sakes.
- cburgess

obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 26 @ 1:17 PM ET
Which is a major problem. Every team needs a legit top line. Not 2 decent lines.
- cburgess


Ill take 2 well balanced lines over one stacked one
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:19 PM ET
Ill take 2 well balanced lines over one stacked one
- obie

So, no point of getting a Carter type then anyways. Would stack the first line too much.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 26 @ 1:20 PM ET
So, no point of getting a Carter type then anyways. Would stack the first line too much.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0


Thats dumb and you know it...
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:22 PM ET
Thats dumb and you know it...
- obie

It's fun to twist words.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 26 @ 1:22 PM ET
It's fun to twist words.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0


It can be from time to time
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 26 @ 1:40 PM ET
I think you have to upgrade Mccarron. He's not a very attractive prospect to teams in my opinion. Also, have to remember Bergevin just won't trade 1st round picks for whatever reason.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0


McCarron looks like he will be, at the absolute best, Dale Weise with an actual set of testicles.
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:42 PM ET
So hes a legitimate top 6 forward... which was my point
- obie


He's a top 6 forward, but he's borderline. At this point Pleks is borderline as well. They've got 2 genuine top 6 forwards and 2 who just qualify. Needs some serious work
EugenesAxe
Location: G-Town, ON
Joined: 02.18.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:46 PM ET
Andrew Shaw is the modern day David Bolland. Not good. A nice role player but you're fooling yourself if you give him big money
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Jun 26 @ 1:46 PM ET
He's a top 6 forward, but he's borderline. At this point Pleks is borderline as well. They've got 2 genuine top 6 forwards and 2 who just qualify. Needs some serious work
- ehabs9


Habs suck but a feisty winger who just put 40 pts in 53 games can be included in a top-6 discussion.

BUT!!!!
Thank god peanut is here to bring some sense, so, LOLOLOL you Habs fans!!
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 26 @ 1:48 PM ET
He's a top 6 forward, but he's borderline. At this point Pleks is borderline as well. They've got 2 genuine top 6 forwards and 2 who just qualify. Needs some serious work
- ehabs9


At this point Plekanec is not borderline, hes a 3rd line C and with 2 more additions he will start the year there and thats not a knock on him at all, it would be great if they iced a team in October that had a 3rd line of Plekanec, Carr and McCarron... and as far as Gallagher goes, to me its not borderline either, hes a top 6 F
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Jun 26 @ 1:48 PM ET
Andrew Shaw is the modern day David Bolland. Not good.
- EugenesAxe


It was a bad trade.
Habs have no depth and should have kept those picks IMO.
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:50 PM ET
At this point Plekanec is not borderline, hes a 3rd line C and with 2 more additions he will start the year there and thats not a knock on him at all, it would be great if they iced a team in October that had a 3rd line of Plekanec, Carr and McCarron... and as far as Gallagher goes, to me its not borderline either, hes a top 6 F
- obie



That's fair.

So Habs have 3/6 of a top 6 covered right now. Should be a fun year watching Price get shelled and stand on his head again
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:51 PM ET
It was a bad trade.
Habs have no depth and should have kept those picks IMO.

- Not_Yan



Ya kind of hypocritical.

"Build through the draft!" *havent had a 2nd round pick in 3 years
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:52 PM ET
It was a bad trade.
Habs have no depth and should have kept those picks IMO.

- Not_Yan



Ya kind of hypocritical.

"Build through the draft!" *havent had a 2nd round pick in 3 years


It's starting to look exactly the same as the prior management. Constantly treading water, shipping out picks in minor deals to patch together some half-assed roster
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 26 @ 1:54 PM ET
That's fair.

So Habs have 3/6 of a top 6 covered right now. Should be a fun year watching Price get shelled and stand on his head again

- ehabs9


I think they will play Shaw in the top 6, whether he belongs or not remains to be seen but he was good enough to spend time on Chicago's first two lines so I think he's a better option already than the Semin, Kassian, Fleischman attempt
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 26 @ 1:57 PM ET
Ya kind of hypocritical.

"Build through the draft!" *havent had a 2nd round pick in 3 years


It's starting to look exactly the same as the prior management. Constantly treading water, shipping out picks in minor deals to patch together some half-assed roster

- ehabs9


This is a big summer for him, if he fails to improve the offense he might be out of time
ehabs9
Florida Panthers
Location: I've got a shitty team, and the only prescription, is more character., QC
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jun 26 @ 2:02 PM ET
I think they will play Shaw in the top 6, whether he belongs or not remains to be seen but he was good enough to spend time on Chicago's first two lines so I think he's a better option already than the Semin, Kassian, Fleischman attempt
- obie



Shaw isn't a top 6 player. If you're gonna play him there though it would help to at least have other top 6 forwards on the line, so far the 2nd line doesn't exist. Lots of question marks
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 26 @ 2:04 PM ET
Shaw isn't a top 6 player. If you're gonna play him there though it would help to at least have other top 6 forwards on the line, so far the 2nd line doesn't exist. Lots of question marks
- ehabs9


Exactly.... he can certainly pose as a top 6 if surrounded with the right elements which they don't have at the moment...Dupuis and Kunitz were never really top 6 forwards either... mind you Crosby does not play on the Habs but it's just an example
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