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Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jun 26 @ 12:27 AM ET
Ya I'd take a deal for dumba but if people expect dumba to be our top pair RHD there going to be disappointed for a while. I think he has that potential but he's 2 years away from it.
- kessellover69

He's a nightmare defensively quite often

Brilliant skater and can move the puck

But by all accounts, brodin did a lot of the heavy lifting for him to cover

But his potential is there

I'd say we're happy pairing him on the 2nd with sekera and giving him plum pp time
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 26 @ 12:28 AM ET
Ya I'd do it. I mean best case scenario nurse is as good as trouba in two years? The value is solid for us but I'd much rather trade a forward for a D than a defensman. I think a nuge + yak/Reinhardt would be my package of choice
- kessellover69

I'd do both. Nurse for Trouba gives us our shutdown guy on the right side and Nuge+ for Dumba++ gives us the offensive talent. Really shores us up to the point where we could sign a guy like Redmond or Gryba (or both) and have a solid team.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 26 @ 12:29 AM ET
I'd consider it

Nurse isn't an asset I deal without a ton of hesitation though

- Ihateallofu

I know and I appreciate the perspective and value of not needing to protect him, but I see that has less valuable than a RH version of him.
kessellover69
Joined: 08.20.2014

Jun 26 @ 12:29 AM ET
He's a nightmare defensively quite often

Brilliant skater and can move the puck

But by all accounts, brodin did a lot of the heavy lifting for him to cover

But his potential is there

I'd say we're happy pairing him on the 2nd with sekera and giving him plum pp time

- Ihateallofu

Yup I have no issue with that at all. I would expect him to be no more than a #4 Dman next year. Unfortunately that still leaves a massive hole on the top pair
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 26 @ 12:29 AM ET
Our three Finish draftees will be fighting in World War III. Stupid Brexit.
- I_Love_Timmies

(frank) off JB!!!
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

Jun 26 @ 12:31 AM ET
Yup I have no issue with that at all. I would expect him to be no more than a #4 Dman next year. Unfortunately that still leaves a massive hole on the top pair
- kessellover69


Who is still out there that you can 100% say "this guy can for sure be our top pairing RHD"
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 26 @ 12:33 AM ET
I'm still an advocate of a Nurse for Trouba deal, but a number of other disagree with me.
- MaximumBone

Nurse for Trouba is a different animal altogether than Nurse for Severson.
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jun 26 @ 12:34 AM ET
Who is still out there that you can 100% say "this guy can for sure be our top pairing RHD"
- RatedR80

Shattenkirk


End ......




Trouba probably isn't that far off assuming last year was a blip


MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 26 @ 12:34 AM ET
Nurse for Trouba is a different animal altogether than Nurse for Severson.
- Iggysbff

Oh, I know I just know there's still a few who don't like it. I can't understand why, but that's on them.
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jun 26 @ 12:37 AM ET
Nurse for Trouba is a different animal altogether than Nurse for Severson.
- Iggysbff

Agreed


And his characterization was reasonably apt too

Fairly similar

Big kid, Physical, mean streak, quality skater and can carry the puck
Just right handed


I think nurses ability to carry the play and rush the puck is abit higher, while troubas defensive chops are significantly superior to nurses, (going forward I mean )

but yeah - alot alike
kessellover69
Joined: 08.20.2014

Jun 26 @ 12:39 AM ET
I'd do both. Nurse for Trouba gives us our shutdown guy on the right side and Nuge+ for Dumba++ gives us the offensive talent. Really shores us up to the point where we could sign a guy like Redmond or Gryba (or both) and have a solid team.
- MaximumBone

I'm not a fan of doing both. We'd then have to expose one of trouba/dumba/klefbom in the expansion draft and I'm not a fan of that. I guess we could do the protect 4F 4D 1g route.
Hall
Eberle
Draisaitl
Pouliout

Klefbom
Sekera
Trouba
Dumba

Talbot

We don't have to protect Connor or JP so I guess that's not terrible.
I'm assuming we lose nuge in the dumba deal that's been proposed. So we really don't lose a forward that I lose any sleep over
jzinthecut
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.11.2012

Jun 26 @ 12:41 AM ET
I've lived in Edmonton for 8 years until recently and had season tickets while there. The fans are like no other. Being a Canucks fan, I felt safe wearing my jersey to the games. There would be a little humorous banter but it was all in fun. Never did I feel a threat. Also, fans showed up and cheered no matter what though they've been losing for so many years. Good on the fans in Edmonton. I wish I could cheer for a team where the majority of the fans were the same.
That being said, Edmonton NEEDS a #1 dman, at least until Nurse is ready. I know the value of their players and I'd take Nuge over any forward currently on my roster. But the rest of the gms know their predicament. So they will eventually have to overpay for one. It's sad and a lot of fans will not be happy at first. But you've got to pay the price to win and this team will be cup contenders if they get that piece that puts them over the top. So, we shall wait and see. The future for Canada's cup hopes lie between the Oilers and the Jets (even before Laine tbh)
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jun 26 @ 12:41 AM ET
The jets are loading up.
It's kinda crazy actually


Deal them nurse and he turns out

Buff, Myers, morrissey, wheeler, schiefele, ehlers, petan, little ,
Now laine and monster Stanley

Add nurse or Trouba


That backend is ridiculous and massive

Impressive
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 26 @ 12:44 AM ET
I'm not a fan of doing both. We'd then have to expose one of trouba/dumba/klefbom in the expansion draft and I'm not a fan of that. I guess we could do the protect 4F 4D 1g route.
Hall
Eberle
Draisaitl
Pouliout

Klefbom
Sekera
Trouba
Dumba

Talbot

We don't have to protect Connor or JP so I guess that's not terrible.
I'm assuming we lose nuge in the dumba deal that's been proposed. So we really don't lose a forward that I lose any sleep over

- kessellover69

Or we could do:

Hall
Leon
Eberle
Klefbom
Trouba
Dumba
Sekera
Davidson/3C (assuming Davidson continues strong play)
Talbot

That'd work fine while still having McDavid and Puljujarvi around
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jun 26 @ 12:45 AM ET
I'm not a fan of doing both. We'd then have to expose one of trouba/dumba/klefbom in the expansion draft and I'm not a fan of that. I guess we could do the protect 4F 4D 1g route.
Hall
Eberle
Draisaitl
Pouliout

Klefbom
Sekera
Trouba
Dumba

Talbot

We don't have to protect Connor or JP so I guess that's not terrible.
I'm assuming we lose nuge in the dumba deal that's been proposed. So we really don't lose a forward that I lose any sleep over

- kessellover69


They acquire a defender and they almost for surely do 8-1 instead of 7-3-1


At worst you expose pouliot and yaks

U trade one of the core forwards, u protect davidson, the acquisition and pouliot
its probably the way to go
I_Love_Timmies
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.28.2016

Jun 26 @ 12:46 AM ET
The jets are loading up.
It's kinda crazy actually


Deal them nurse and he turns out

Buff, Myers, morrissey, wheeler, schiefele, ehlers, petan, little ,
Now laine and monster Stanley

Add nurse or Trouba


That backend is ridiculous and massive

Impressive

- Ihateallofu


Calgary is stacked too now...
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

Jun 26 @ 12:48 AM ET
The jets are loading up.
It's kinda crazy actually


Deal them nurse and he turns out

Buff, Myers, morrissey, wheeler, schiefele, ehlers, petan, little ,
Now laine and monster Stanley

Add nurse or Trouba


That backend is ridiculous and massive

Impressive

- Ihateallofu


How about the Canes blueline? Jeez if they had a bit of talent up front they would be a force in the next few years
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jun 26 @ 12:49 AM ET
Calgary is stacked too now...
- I_Love_Timmies

Getting there yeah. U can see buries fingerprints all over it

Didn't like seeing them get tkachuk. Butbthstveas mitigated by us landing pulu so I wasn't too angry

And while I think Elliot is underrated, I'm glad they were forced to get him instead bishop who I see as elite


They're gonna be a solid team in Bennett develops and Elliot plays well
kessellover69
Joined: 08.20.2014

Jun 26 @ 12:49 AM ET
Or we could do:

Hall
Leon
Eberle
Klefbom
Trouba
Dumba
Sekera
Davidson/3C (assuming Davidson continues strong play)
Talbot

That'd work fine while still having McDavid and Puljujarvi around

- MaximumBone

I love Davidson but I'd protect pouliot over him. Davidson would be at best a#5 with that projected roster I'd rather the second line winger than the #5 d
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 26 @ 12:49 AM ET
The jets are loading up.
It's kinda crazy actually


Deal them nurse and he turns out

Buff, Myers, morrissey, wheeler, schiefele, ehlers, petan, little ,
Now laine and monster Stanley

Add nurse or Trouba


That backend is ridiculous and massive

Impressive

- Ihateallofu

Yeah, man. They've had three straight good to great drafts. They've got the sheltering necessary to bring their Dmen along slowly and, with the Nurse trade- would have nicely balanced pairings.

Laine- Schiefele- Ehlers
Connor- Little- Wheeler
Petan- Lowry- Dano

Nurse- Byfuglien
Morrissey- Myers

Hellebuyck
Comrie

That's even ignoring Kosmachuk, Roslovic, Armia, Lemieux, Harkins, De Leo, Stanley, Green, and Kostalek.
leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jun 26 @ 1:07 AM ET
Might have to make the transition there Leon....wasnt Burns a forward a long time ago or am I thinking of someone else?
- RatedR80

Pretty sure he was. Only when leon can grow a beard like burns....can he become burns.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 26 @ 1:13 AM ET
Calm yourself Brock Turner. Don't want you to rape me mate.
- I_Love_Timmies

Dont know why you keep coming back. Sooner or later we shall be rid of you and all of your alts for good.
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Jun 26 @ 1:50 AM ET
At this point, if the rumors are true, a RNH for Granlund + Dumba package would be quite interesting.
Looks like the Subban talks are going nowhere...
As for Eberle, I really hope Trouba for Ebs is somewhere on the board.

On another note, I would love to see a line with both Granlund and Pulj on it. Talk about a Finn duo.



Hall-LD-Kassian (Scoring Line) (Kassian can be interchangeable with Maroon; both can play offwings apparently)
Pouliot-McDavid-Yak (Scoring Line)
Maroon-Granlund-Pulj (Scoring Line)
4th can be whatever the hell it can be (Defensive Line)

Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jun 26 @ 2:05 AM ET
At this point, if the rumors are true, a RNH for Granlund + Dumba package would be quite interesting.
Looks like the Subban talks are going nowhere...
As for Eberle, I really hope Trouba for Ebs is somewhere on the board.

On another note, I would love to see a line with both Granlund and Pulj on it. Talk about a Finn duo.



Hall-LD-Kassian (Scoring Line) (Kassian can be interchangeable with Maroon; both can play offwings apparently)
Pouliot-McDavid-Yak (Scoring Line)
Maroon-Granlund-Pulj (Scoring Line)
4th can be whatever the hell it can be (Defensive Line)


- EdmHockeyMan


Which rumours have granlund involved?


I think I made it up a few pages ago

Nuge +

Dumba and Granlund


HB 3

leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jun 26 @ 2:31 AM ET
Which rumours have granlund involved?


I think I made it up a few pages ago

Nuge +

Dumba and Granlund


HB 3


- Ihateallofu


Was thinking the same thing.
Also why the hell is yak still on his fantasy team?
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