Stewart is a tough scorer type of like to play in that spot

But the guy is a no show half the season

Versteeg- meh

Is grabner any good?
- Ihateallofu

Decent PK, VERY fast... hands aren't great, but he'll get opportunities.

Neids is a quality piece, but I say we chase a replacement for the 3c in granlund if we're dealing nuge for dumba


Nuge and oesterle


Dumba and granlund
- Ihateallofu

I just don't see that being a deal they'd accept. Maybe I'm undervaluing RNH, but I think Haula is a much more realistic target for us to pursue in that deal. He's a bit bigger, a bit faster, and a better of a fit for 3C duties while still being a Finn. I'd prefer keeping Oesterle if they'd take someone else, but obvious I wouldn't let that be the deal breaker.

Frustration? No poop! JP is a great piece but I would trade him in a heartbeat if we got a real D in the deal.
The only thing I really like about adding another young forward is that I feel better about potentially trading Wberle.
- Jeropotato

I hate the idea of trading eberle. I would much rather move nuge. I don't like the idea of making JP our top RW I'm his rookie year. RD is by far our greatest need but before last night RW was not far behind. If we trade eberle our depth is garbage
JP
Yak
Kassian
Korpikoski

Let's ease JP into the lineup at a 3rd line role. What if he needs time in the AHL? Then we'd end up with what happened in draisaitl first year. Plus having eberle AND JP's right shot means that we have one right shop forward on each power play and then we won't be forced to have letestu on our PP solely on the fact we needed his right shot.

Let's trade nuge instead.

I just don't see that being a deal they'd accept. Maybe I'm undervaluing RNH, but I think Haula is a much more realistic target for us to pursue in that deal. He's a bit bigger, a bit faster, and a better of a fit for 3C duties while still being a Finn. I'd prefer keeping Oesterle if they'd take someone else, but obvious I wouldn't let that be the deal breaker.
- MaximumBone

I think that trade is pretty close if you add yak. But I agree the main part of the deal is dumba. If they offer haula instead of granlund/Nino I take that deal

Edit: although there is a pretty bid difference in salary between haula and granlund. For a cap strapped team I wonder if they'd want to keep haula over granlund because haula is only a 1 mill cap hit compared to granlund a 3 mill?

I was thinking a cheap FA or a separate deal for a 3C. I think Nino is a chia kinda player. Granlund would be good but I feel he probably has more value than Nino. I would even go yak nuge oesterle for dumba and granlund.

But granlund being Finnish would help out Puljujarvi I would think.
Hall-drai-eberle
Maroon-MCD-cheap FA
Pouliot-granlund-puljujarvi
Hendricks-letestu-kassian

I can live with that.
- kessellover69

Hall- Leon- UFA (Versteeg)
Maroon- McDavid- Eberle
Pouliot- Haula- Puljujarvi
Hendricks- Letestu- Kassian
Lander, Pakarinen

Klefbom- Dumba
Sekera- Trade (Stone or Savard)
Davidson- UFA (Redmond)
Fayne

Talbot
UFA (Montoya or Johnson)

That's a lineup I can live with The special teams would have a lot of moving parts. All of the Dmen are capable to good puck movers that I'd trust on the point on the PP with solid enough shots to add an extra element. The bulk of the PP work would go to Dumba, but I'd trust all of them on our PP as one will be QB'd by McDavid, the other by Dumba or Leon.

I hate the idea of trading eberle. I would much rather move nuge. I don't like the idea of making JP our top RW I'm his rookie year. RD is by far our greatest need but before last night RW was not far behind. If we trade eberle our depth is garbage
JP
Yak
Kassian
Korpikoski

Let's ease JP into the lineup at a 3rd line role. What if he needs time in the AHL? Then we'd end up with what happened in draisaitl first year. Plus having eberle AND JP's right shot means that we have one right shop forward on each power play and then we won't be forced to have letestu on our PP solely on the fact we needed his right shot.

Let's trade nuge instead.
- kessellover69

I get what you are saying about JP but I wouldnt mind seeing him and McDavid in say pre season to see if they can develop any chemistry and if JP shows he isnt ready then go from there...its pre season so its not really rushing him into anything

I hate the idea of trading eberle. I would much rather move nuge. I don't like the idea of making JP our top RW I'm his rookie year. RD is by far our greatest need but before last night RW was not far behind. If we trade eberle our depth is garbage
JP
Yak
Kassian
Korpikoski

Let's ease JP into the lineup at a 3rd line role. What if he needs time in the AHL? Then we'd end up with what happened in draisaitl first year. Plus having eberle AND JP's right shot means that we have one right shop forward on each power play and then we won't be forced to have letestu on our PP solely on the fact we needed his right shot.

Let's trade nuge instead.
- kessellover69

Well, he was also used for winning faceoffs

I get what you are saying about JP but I wouldnt mind seeing him and McDavid in say pre season to see if they can develop any chemistry and if JP shows he isnt ready then go from there...its pre season so its not really rushing him into anything
- RatedR80

If JP plays well in preseason and he earns the right to play with McDavid or drai game one then great. So let's say we trade eberle for a dman and JP comes into camp and struggles. Then what? Would we force him in the lineup like we did with drai because we need too. At that point you can't put him in the AHL because then we'd have
Yakupov
Kassian
Pakaranen
Korpikoski

I would much rather just trade nuge.

If JP plays well in preseason and he earns the right to play with McDavid or drai game one then great. So let's say we trade eberle for a dman and JP comes into camp and struggles. Then what? Would we force him in the lineup like we did with drai because we need too. At that point you can't put him in the AHL because then we'd have
Yakupov
Kassian
Pakaranen
Korpikoski

I would much rather just trade nuge.
- kessellover69

I dont disagree per say but lets say either McDavid gets hurt again or Drai falls off a cliff after putting up a good year then what? There are so many ways you can spin itto keep one or the other

I dont disagree per say but lets say either McDavid gets hurt again or Drai falls off a cliff after putting up a good year then what? There are so many ways you can spin itto keep one or the other
- RatedR80

We've gotta trade one and we have more depth to replace Nuge than we do to replace Eberle. I get it's a risk, but it's the kind of risk we'll be dealing with every year. It's reality.

I dont disagree per say but lets say either McDavid gets hurt again or Drai falls off a cliff after putting up a good year then what? There are so many ways you can spin itto keep one or the other
- RatedR80

You're right. Obviously our centre depth takes a huge hit without nuge. But I also feel that nuge will get us a better dman than eberle will. I also like the depth chart to start the year better with eberle in it.

Hall-drai-eberle
Maroon-MCD-yak
Pouliot-???-JP
Hendricks-letestu-kassian


Hall-drai-???
Maroon-MCD-yak
Pouliot-nuge-JP
Hendricks-letestu-kassian

I personally like the first one better and I think we'll be able to find a competent 3C but obviously if we get a top 4 RHD I can live with either lineup

We've gotta trade one and we have more depth to replace Nuge than we do to replace Eberle. I get it's a risk, but it's the kind of risk we'll be dealing with every year. It's reality.
- MaximumBone

I was more or less playing devils advocate no matter who you trade there will always be that what if regardless but if it helps the TEAM be better overall then im good with it regardless of who it is in the end

We've gotta trade one and we have more depth to replace Nuge than we do to replace Eberle. I get it's a risk, but it's the kind of risk we'll be dealing with every year. It's reality.
- MaximumBone

All depends on the dman coming back. If it's a straight 1 for 1 swap then it really hurts our depth. But I feel like we're gonna have to settle for a lesser dman(still a top 4) packaged with a mediocre forward (either a C or RW) to fill nuge/ebs spot

You're right. Obviously our centre depth takes a huge hit without nuge. But I also feel that nuge will get us a better dman than eberle will. I also like the depth chart to start the year better with eberle in it.

Hall-drai-eberle
Maroon-MCD-yak
Pouliot-???-JP
Hendricks-letestu-kassian


Hall-drai-???
Maroon-MCD-yak
Pouliot-nuge-JP
Hendricks-letestu-kassian

I personally like the first one better and I think we'll be able to find a competent 3C but obviously if we get a top 4 RHD I can live with either lineup
- kessellover69

Im at the point now as I said in my previous post to where I dont care who goes as long as we can finally address our need...no matter who gets traded there will be those people that hate it no matter what

If JP plays well in preseason and he earns the right to play with McDavid or drai game one then great. So let's say we trade eberle for a dman and JP comes into camp and struggles. Then what? Would we force him in the lineup like we did with drai because we need too. At that point you can't put him in the AHL because then we'd have
Yakupov
Kassian
Pakaranen
Korpikoski

I would much rather just trade nuge.
- kessellover69

Alot of centers play wing. You can move Pouliot or Maroon to the RW. Maybe sign a free agent like Purcell. Hall and Draisaitl were ppg players before he got traded.

Im at the point now as I said in my previous post to where I dont care who goes as long as we can finally address our need...no matter who gets traded there will be those people that hate it no matter what
- RatedR80

All of the commenters on Lowetide's site will hate it Avoid there and we'll all be fine

All of the commenters on Lowetide's site will hate it Avoid there and we'll all be fine
- MaximumBone

Could have just imagined the rage if say Ebs got dealt for Hamonic

Could have just imagined the rage if say Ebs got dealt for Hamonic
- RatedR80

Imagine oil fans reaction if we took Dubois over puljujarvi

Could have just imagined the rage if say Ebs got dealt for Hamonic
- RatedR80

People would be mad about that ?

Imagine oil fans reaction if we took Dubois over puljujarvi
- kessellover69

For as little love as PC gets at least he wouldnt have made that choice but I thank the BlueJackets anyways....now watch Dubois become a huge superstar in the next coming years

People would be mad about that ?
- Ihateallofu

Max mentioned lowetides site I really wasnt refering to this one at all

Not impressed by PC at all. If we get saddled with some mediocre UFA defenders for 5+ years I'm gonna cheer for someone else.
- Jeropotato

lol you truly are a dunce, aren't you.

For as little love as PC gets at least he wouldnt have made that choice but I thank the BlueJackets anyways....now watch Dubois become a huge superstar in the next coming years
- RatedR80

I don't think he was our target anyways


My guess is tkachuk or a defender



As long as puljujarvi turns into a two way top 6 beast I'm happy with whatever happens with Dubois

6'4- 205- brilliant skater/dynamic talent and solid defensively

Fukin eh rights

You're right. Obviously our centre depth takes a huge hit without nuge. But I also feel that nuge will get us a better dman than eberle will. I also like the depth chart to start the year better with eberle in it.

Hall-drai-eberle
Maroon-MCD-yak
Pouliot-???-JP
Hendricks-letestu-kassian


Hall-drai-???
Maroon-MCD-yak
Pouliot-nuge-JP
Hendricks-letestu-kassian

I personally like the first one better and I think we'll be able to find a competent 3C but obviously if we get a top 4 RHD I can live with either lineup
- kessellover69

There's really no room for RNH on this team. He'll be playing 3rd line minutes for 6 million. It'd be a lot smarter to flip that for Shattenkirk.

Also Chairelli has 12 million to work with here, so offer sheeting the poop out of RFAs would be great.

I don't think he was our target anyways


My guess is tkachuk or a defender



As long as puljujarvi turns into a two way top 6 beast I'm happy with whatever happens with Dubois

6'4- 205- brilliant skater/dynamic talent and solid defensively

Fukin eh rights
- Ihateallofu

Exactly. JP is a better fit for us and he's more NHL ready. Sure Dubois could end up being better but so could a guy in the 5th round. I'm very happy with JP