Sorry I think that him at 1 mil is a no brainer. Yeah, hes going downhill... but hes not dead weight yet.

Being not worth 6.5 mil isn't exactly an insult. The Wild overpayed him, we can take advantage. If Kunitz, Sheary, or Wilson gets hurt... we are borderline (frank)ED at LW.

I view him the same as Semin, except a LOT less risky.
- Guile

Rust prefers the LW and I think he will be playing there more this coming season. Simon, GUentzle and Blueger could play off wing in a dire situation.

People are acting like this Connor Hall guy is never going to get better. He's like 18 years old. He'll go to the prospect camp and the pens coaching staff will tell him what he needs to work on to make the team. Holy hell people...
- drummer829

Amen

Apparently teams were trying to pry Murray away from the Pens before he actually had much NHL time.
- madmike71

He was named to team North America before he played a game in the NHL. Only player in the world cup with that distinction. Except on the teams that don't matter, or guys that are never going to play in the NHL I mean.

People are acting like this Connor Hall guy is never going to get better. He's like 18 years old. He'll go to the prospect camp and the pens coaching staff will tell him what he needs to work on to make the team. Holy hell people...
- drummer829

Just a general reply statement to a general comment about not liking physical players. It has nothing to do with physicality....its not rocket surgery.

"Check your privilege and look at where you are. You're on a crackpot hockey trade rumor sight. We come here to discuss opinions. Are they worthless? Pretty much. Are they going to affect what the organization does? Not a flying (frank)ing chance. But the whole point of this site is to discuss worthless opinions. Seems to me like you're the arrogant one that gets pissy when people don't agree with you."


This is your perception, quite honestly if GMJR traded Crosby I wouldn't think twice about it because I don't take hockey as life as many on here clearly do. I just like to point out that one doesn't need to have the sky is falling mentality to enjoy life and hockey. I could care less about whether people agree, I will just continue to find these message boards hilariously fully of those that believe they know all. Thanks for the laugh fellas....you are all wanna be GM(s) without a clue!!
- Darklight11

But you do have a clue? Who the F are you again? Is this your first day here? I think you spend to much time in the dark light, your brain is mush.

I never defend EK for obvious reasons, but he never said Vesey was signing in Buffalo. He said Buffalo would like to announce the signing of Vesey.
- Oneonta Penguin

Semantics are for politicians

Agree - I have never liked Vanek, even at his peak. He seems like a selfish, truly lazy hockey player.
As for LW - I would LOVE the Pens to make a run at Louie Eriksson.
- T-Train

Too much money and real possibility that one hit puts him out of the league forever. They don't call him "Look Out Louie" for nothing. Whoever signs him is buying a Cadillac with a bad engine and all the electronic features flash on and off for no specific reason and it's leaking multiple fluids on your driveway.

Harrington will be a career AHL Dman IMO. Don't know what Columbus was thinking.
- Oneonta Penguin

Harrington is a leader and a solid player. I can see him catching on as a bottom pairing dman for them and getting to second pair someday. He was always the second best dman at the rookie tournament for Pitts, although Dumoulin was light years ahead, but he was older as well. Harrington will be and NHL regular soon, although unspectacular.

Respectfully I completely disagree with this mindset, in the 1st round and especially in the top 20 you are looking at blue chip players that all have a higher probability of succeeding so that is the time to skew more towards filling a need, in the later rounds,when everyone is a crap shoot is the time to draft BPA because the BPA will have a better chance of succeeding and eventually helping the team than a lesser play that fills a need will.
- jaydogg1974

This train of thought would make sense if everyone developed at the same time and frequency. They don't so you have to look at other factors because even the ones that mature early get stagnant quickly. Drafting for need and then doing everything possible to make sure those picks have every chance to succeed is good strategy.

They had to qualify him to be able to trade him, without qualifying him they wouldn't have retained his rights and would have lost him for nothing as opposed to getting a pick for him. That's also why RFAs have to be qualified to be part of the expansion draft.
- jaydogg1974

Yeah I know, thanks. But who knew Bennet had any trade value at all, it was a crap shoot to qualify, find a taker in a trade, and make the deal because he didn't have a spot on this roster and they would have had to carry him.

I was actually even in favor of moving Pouliot for Rychel last summer after Harrington was already moved in the Kessel deal.
- jaydogg1974

And that would have been a disaster move on the Penguins part.

Its not Borgstrom. That's a different player altogether. His name is Bjorkqvist. Significantly cooler name btw.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Yeah I get that now, I saw the B and the unpronounceable name and yeah. I would prefer Borgstrom though.

"What a douche bag comment. It's totally fine to be passionate about something. It makes you human. Maybe it's ok to find something as a young child and carry it with you through adulthood. IT dosn't make you immature it makes you you. If you're so superior to all of us that have an opinion of how things went the last 2 days then maybe you should stop slumming with us and go find somewhere to be worshiped like the god you must think you are?"

Lol, you are a lost soul. You are stuck in a reality of defending yourself and not even believing your own words. You are the one that feels inferior, I can't do that, only you. When someone who can't think rationally and they feel threatened they resort to the lowest human ideology of throwing insults like a monkey throwing its own poop. This is basic human psychology. If you want to find a douche bag, simply find a mirror and look in it. The only ones that want to be worshipped are the ones that blames other people. So many on here have an inferiority complex, they say things like Pierre McQuire knows nothing, GMJR doesn't know anything....the only people that know nothing are the ones that complain about another persons job believing they know best....so welcome to that reality. Not once have I claimed anyone in the Pittsburgh organization doesn't know what they are doing. Do I know what this forum is for...I guess I do now, its for children to have low level intelligent conversations. I swear some of you should call the wa-wa-wambulance for your butt hurt egos!!

stawp youre gonna get grinder jealous.
- stayinthefnnet

It should have said "lover" not love. Stupid auto correcting phones

FWIW - every scouting report says Bjorkqvist is a LH RW. Then Rutherford called him a center.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

I think Rutherford even thought he drafted Borgstrom

I could definitely see that happening. It's not the greatest situation, but if Fleury is truly helping out Murray develop, then why not enter the season with 2 starters.

Plus, other teams could need a goalie and if they know that he'll go for free to Las Vegas, maybe some teams will throw some picks for fleury.
- drummer829

Um cap space, not enough games for both of them, Fleury gets hit in the head again and his career is over and the Pens are on the hook for the rest of his contract, risk of losing Murray, having to give up assets to move MAF instead of getting some. Are those enough reasons?

Getting back to this Dallas-TB talking Bishop. The more I think about it, I can't see this happening. TB would have to take back Niemi at least. They are in cap mess right now. Can't resign Stammer, it appears because because Killorn needs to be taken care of as a RFA; same with Kucherov and to a lesser extent Paquette, Nesterov, Namestnikov and Marchessault. Then next year - Johnson, Palat, Droiun, Sustr and Vasy as RFAs and Hedman as a ufa.

Ideally, they want to resign Vasy. He won't be making the 5.7 Bishop will be this year and then can go with the kid from Latvia that was his backup once Bishop went down.

Don't see this one happening.

"What a douche bag comment. It's totally fine to be passionate about something. It makes you human. Maybe it's ok to find something as a young child and carry it with you through adulthood. IT dosn't make you immature it makes you you. If you're so superior to all of us that have an opinion of how things went the last 2 days then maybe you should stop slumming with us and go find somewhere to be worshiped like the god you must think you are?"

Lol, you are a lost soul. You are stuck in a reality of defending yourself and not even believing your own words. You are the one that feels inferior, I can't do that, only you. When someone who can't think rationally and they feel threatened they resort to the lowest human ideology of throwing insults like a monkey throwing its own poop. This is basic human psychology. If you want to find a douche bag, simply find a mirror and look in it. The only ones that want to be worshipped are the ones that blames other people. So many on here have an inferiority complex, they say things like Pierre McQuire knows nothing, GMJR doesn't know anything....the only people that know nothing are the ones that complain about another persons job believing they know best....so welcome to that reality. Not once have I claimed anyone in the Pittsburgh organization doesn't know what they are doing. Do I know what this forum is for...I guess I do now, its for children to have low level intelligent conversations. I swear some of you should call the wa-wa-wambulance for your butt hurt egos!!
- Darklight11

So pi$$ off then douche bag. No one cares what you think. You don't hurt my ego, I would have to have some kind of respect for you and you're not worthy of that. It's your first day here and everyone already hates you, great job, it took me months to earn that distinction. Who is Pierre McQuire? IF I go look in a mirror right now will you be standing behind me? That is terrifying, are you Candyman? Welcome to that reality? You mean there is a different reality than reality? That is trippy dude. In your reality are you better than everyone else? Does your reality usually clash with the real reality? I'm sure you can get pills for that. You should check out Haldol it sounds like it would be perfect for you. There is no w in the word ambulance, well maybe there is in your reality but not ours. "Low level intelligent conversations?" So what you are saying is they are intelligent? Sweet!

I think the Penguins would be crazy to trade MAF until they know exactly what they have in Murray. Yeah, he won the cup in the pipes, but there is a difference of getting hot at the right time and being a true long term #1. I think Murray probably will be that, but you can't just throw away the guy who's been excellent for you until you're certain. Plus, wait till the deadline and you may get some desperate injury ridden team pony up for him.

I think the Penguins would be crazy to trade MAF until they know exactly what they have in Murray. Yeah, he won the cup in the pipes, but there is a difference of getting hot at the right time and being a true long term #1. I think Murray probably will be that, but you can't just throw away the guy who's been excellent for you until you're certain. Plus, wait till the deadline and you may get some desperate injury ridden team pony up for him.
- BodyCheckRadio

When was Fleury excellent when it mattered? I remember a lot of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQGz9UoKOKo and fist clenching when he blew it for us.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong...

Can't fleury waive his NMC before the expansion draft and that'd allow the pens to protect Murray but lost fleury to Vegas?
- drummer829

He could do that, but if you're Fleury why would you? It's much better for him to stay in Pittsburgh and have Murray be drafted to LV.

He could do that, but if you're Fleury why would you? It's much better for him to stay in Pittsburgh and have Murray be drafted to LV.
- Tojo.

Because he's not an bumhole

He could do that, but if you're Fleury why would you? It's much better for him to stay in Pittsburgh and have Murray be drafted to LV.
- Tojo.

His, MAF's legacy in Pittsburgh would go to hell, if that happened, especially if Murray comes close to duplicating what he is did since he took over.

Because he's not an bumhole
- drummer829

His agent is a world class as*hole however.

He could do that, but if you're Fleury why would you? It's much better for him to stay in Pittsburgh and have Murray be drafted to LV.
- Tojo.

Fleury risks getting beat out by a younger player and being typecast as an over the hill backup. Consequently costing him millions of dollars on his next contract.