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daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jun 26 @ 4:12 PM ET
Jays are mailing this one in. They should just round up their sh!t and leave town now. Save us wasting anymore time watching them mail it in.

Is it hockey season yet?........yawn!

- PrinceLH

oopsie?
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jun 26 @ 4:14 PM ET
And for the record Sale is having a Cy Young type season so far. Not many teams are hitting him.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 26 @ 4:14 PM ET
Too bad that the Leafs couldn't do something like this: A 1 year deal for Stamkos, at $14 million dollars. Work out a deal with Tampa, to get him before July 1st, with a 4th rounder, or a mid level prospect, then sign him. On July 1st, give him an 8 year, 70 million dollar contract, that kicks in on July 1st, 2017. Stamkos gets overpaid for one year and ends up with a total of 9 years. Front load the contract. By the time he is 32 or 33 and in decline, he'll still get paid. It's spreading out the cap hit, to make it easier going forward.
- PrinceLH

in 5 years, he will be the 5th best player on the team.

I would go 3 year/30m. We will survive without him.
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jun 26 @ 4:18 PM ET
Anyone think leading up to July 1st, there will be reports of teams being out on the Stamkos Sweepstakes?

Thinking by Wednesday or Thursday, we'll see tweets like "BUF/DET/TOR have been told Steven Stamkos won't be signing with them."
grim1911
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 26 @ 4:19 PM ET
Anyone think leading up to July 1st, there will be reports of teams being out on the Stamkos Sweepstakes?

Thinking by Wednesday or Thursday, we'll see tweets like "BUF/DET/TOR have been told Steven Stamkos won't be signing with them."

- MCharisma91


who was the big ufa last year? im pretty sure that happened then
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 26 @ 4:19 PM ET
in 5 years, he will be the 5th best player on the team.

I would go 3 year/30m. We will survive without him.

- mr.sir


I agree.....however Leafs management may not. I'd rather that he goes to Buffalo or Detroit, for $12 million per, and screw their cap up, going forward for 7 years. If the management just has to have him, do something to reduce the cap hit, going forward. Giving him $14 million for one year, with 8 years at 8.5 would significantly help this club, going forward. I don't want the Leafs to give him a 7 year X 11 million dollar deal, knowing that our young guns will need a significant increase, in 3 years.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jun 26 @ 4:20 PM ET
Anyone think leading up to July 1st, there will be reports of teams being out on the Stamkos Sweepstakes?

Thinking by Wednesday or Thursday, we'll see tweets like "BUF/DET/TOR have been told Steven Stamkos won't be signing with them."

- MCharisma91


I can't recall whether that's happened since they opened up this week long window; I kind of think I remember something, but not 100%.
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jun 26 @ 4:20 PM ET
who was the big ufa last year? im pretty sure that happened then
- grim1911


Babcock
grim1911
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 26 @ 4:20 PM ET
Babcock
- MCharisma91


lol oh yaaa!!!! hahahaha
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jun 26 @ 4:20 PM ET
I can't recall whether that's happened since they opened up this week long window; I kind of think I remember something, but not 100%.
- gravyface


I think there were reports/tweets a day or 2 before July 1st last yr saying Babcock has told DET/BUF he won't be signing there. I forgot which team.
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jun 26 @ 4:21 PM ET
lol oh yaaa!!!! hahahaha
- grim1911


would be (frank)ing hilarious if it happens to Buffalo again. They were so sure Babs was going there last yr...a yr later, Stamkos does the same and joins Bab in TOR..

then a month later, Vesey doesn't sign with them
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jun 26 @ 4:25 PM ET
would be (frank)ing hilarious if it happens to Buffalo again. They were so sure Babs was going there last yr...a yr later, Stamkos does the same and joins Bab in TOR..

then a month later, Vesey doesn't sign with them

- MCharisma91


These are all highly probable outcomes too. I don't know why Murray doesn't take a page out of Ken Holland or Lou Lamoriello's book and just shut yer yap.
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 26 @ 4:25 PM ET
would be (frank)ing hilarious if it happens to Buffalo again. They were so sure Babs was going there last yr...a yr later, Stamkos does the same and joins Bab in TOR..

then a month later, Vesey doesn't sign with them

- MCharisma91


I wonder if Buffalo or Columbus becomes the next Toronto, pre Shanahan? Columbus seems to be sh!tting the bed lately. Maybe we can wrangle Seth Jones away from them for Connor Carrick.
fansince72
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 04.21.2014

Jun 26 @ 4:26 PM ET
in 5 years, he will be the 5th best player on the team.

I would go 3 year/30m. We will survive without him.

- mr.sir


Totally doubt it. Only two are Mathews and Marner ttha might end up better but both will prolly not out score him. Different types of players
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 26 @ 4:27 PM ET
I wonder if Winnipeg would be interested in Jake Gardiner for Jacob Trouba?
grim1911
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 26 @ 4:27 PM ET
would be (frank)ing hilarious if it happens to Buffalo again. They were so sure Babs was going there last yr...a yr later, Stamkos does the same and joins Bab in TOR..

then a month later, Vesey doesn't sign with them

- MCharisma91


our rivalry with Buffalo is realllllllly going to pick up over the next few years
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 26 @ 4:30 PM ET
To put the endorsement deals into perspective, Booster Juice's big campaign with Bautista came in at a total cost of 1.5M over 4 years... Including media costs, production, etc.

That's a far cry from handing a guy 3M per year... And how many brands do you think have that kind of coin for the Canadian market? Keeping in mind also that any sports gear brands are off-limits, because Nike already has Stammer.


The endorsements are really overstated here.
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 26 @ 4:30 PM ET
our rivalry with Buffalo is realllllllly going to pick up over the next few years
- grim1911


Looks like Ottawa will stay status quo as a bubble team and the Habs are trending downwards. Buffalo seems to be on the uptick. All good.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 26 @ 4:31 PM ET
I wonder if Winnipeg would be interested in Jake Gardiner for Jacob Trouba?
- PrinceLH

Jake Gardiner and? What else. That would be the question.
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 26 @ 4:32 PM ET
Jake Gardiner and? What else. That would be the question.
- Iggysbff


Gardiner is signed to a cap friendly deal and Trouba is not and holding out. That's the what else.
grim1911
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 26 @ 4:32 PM ET
Jake Gardiner and? What else. That would be the question.
- Iggysbff


Bozak, Lupul and Bernier.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 26 @ 4:35 PM ET
To put the endorsement deals into perspective, Booster Juice's big campaign with Bautista came in at a total cost of 1.5M over 4 years... Including media costs, production, etc.

That's a far cry from handing a guy 3M per year... And how many brands do you think have that kind of coin for the Canadian market? Keeping in mind also that any sports gear brands are off-limits, because Nike already has Stammer.


The endorsements are really overstated here.

- Feeling Glucky?

Thank you. I've stated many times its over stated. He already has Nike/Bauer, Tissot and Coca-Cola/Powerade. Not many national level deals out there and Crosby/McDavid/Toews etc still have a large portion of that tied up.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 26 @ 4:36 PM ET
would be (frank)ing hilarious if it happens to Buffalo again. They were so sure Babs was going there last yr...a yr later, Stamkos does the same and joins Bab in TOR..

then a month later, Vesey doesn't sign with them

- MCharisma91

Signs with the Leafs IF JVR is traded for a defensmen Vessey will sign.
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 26 @ 4:38 PM ET
Thanks for cumming Blue Jays......just like a fake orgasm!
grim1911
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 26 @ 4:38 PM ET
Signs with the Leafs IF JVR is traded for a defensmen Vessey will sign.
- Santo_44


Why does JVR have to go?
put him on the 3rd line with marner and matthews
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