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DarcyTucker16
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St.Albert, AB
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 26 @ 2:41 PM ET
plus, he's real close with Stamkos
- MCharisma91

actually?
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jun 26 @ 2:42 PM ET
actually?
- DarcyTucker16


yup. From their Sarnia days.
DarcyTucker16
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St.Albert, AB
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 26 @ 2:43 PM ET
yup. From their Sarnia days.
- MCharisma91

sign him now then
grim1911
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 26 @ 2:43 PM ET
actually?
- DarcyTucker16


played on a line together in sarnia
grim1911
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 26 @ 2:45 PM ET
take this for what its worth, but i was told through a friend that his buddys parents have season seats w/ leafs and that stamkos parents were trying to buy the seats off of them
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jun 26 @ 2:45 PM ET
sign him now then
- DarcyTucker16


damn straight!

I think the Leafs targets in UFA , realistically will be Stamkos, Martin, and a dman.

Almost all other spots are pretty much taken. But lots will change if we don't land Stamkos. Bozak will probably be kept unfortunately. Nylander to the wing regardless.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jun 26 @ 2:46 PM ET
Guys, what's that salary site we use now?
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jun 26 @ 2:46 PM ET
take this for what its worth, but i was told through a friend that his buddys parents have season seats w/ leafs and that stamkos parents were trying to buy the seats off of them
- grim1911


I'm sure MLSE will give Steven's parents a few tix

edit: but funny you say that.. and I kid you not. My step dad (he's Macedonian too) & Stamkos' dad were 2 of many that owned a farm here (which was sold a few years ago) . He made a joke this morning about calling up his dad
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jun 26 @ 2:47 PM ET
take this for what its worth, but i was told through a friend that his buddys parents have season seats w/ leafs and that stamkos parents were trying to buy the seats off of them
- grim1911



3 or so games Buffalo comes to town. Then take the other 39 and re-sell them and retire.
PlatosRepucklic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #TradeMarner
Joined: 11.07.2015

Jun 26 @ 2:47 PM ET
I'm sure MLSE will give Steven's parents a few tix
- MCharisma91

Yeah don't think they'd be having to scalp some off anyone
orienbrady22
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 02.14.2013

Jun 26 @ 2:49 PM ET
take this for what its worth, but i was told through a friend that his buddys parents have season seats w/ leafs and that stamkos parents were trying to buy the seats off of them
- grim1911



I'd think Stamkos parents would have no problem getting free season seats if need be.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jun 26 @ 2:49 PM ET
For all those whining about the draft round 2-7: please put things in perspective.

Main objective for draft is to find future top 6 FWs and Top 4d-men and a starting goalie.

We've got 30 teams in league.

Top 6 FWs: 30 x 6 = 180. Let's make it an even 200.
Top 4 D-men: 30 x 4 = 120
Starting goalies: 30 x 1 = 30. let's make it 40.

Thats 360 players.

Let's say the average career length of those top players is 10 seasons.
This means, that every draft year 36 of the top guys will be retiring, and will be replaced by new guys (from previous drafts).

This means that every season, a team needs to draft 1.2 NHL top guys (top 6fw/top4 d/starting goalie) for it to be an 'expected draft' and over that to be a better draft than expected.

Over 5 drafts, that's 6 players that eventually will be top guys in NHL (with on average 10 playing seasons).

Last 5 drafts for Leafs: Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Rielly all seem like 'sure bets' for the top player category. (and actually to all be in category of top3 fw / top2 D-men, so high quality; normal for top10 picks).

Out of the 2012 - 2016 drafts, if more than 2 players become top4 D / starting goalie / top 6 fw, the Leafs have done better than expected in the draft..

Seems quite probable that Leafs will indeed accomplish that:

potential top 6 FW: Brown / Bracco / Timashov
potential top 4 D: Loov / Valiev / Dermott / Nielsen
potential starting goalie: Bibeau / Woll

In addition, Leafs recently added Kapanen, Lindberg, Rychel, Leipsic as well through trade; draft picks from the same drafts that have some options to make top6 fw role as well..

Conclusion: every year, only about 36 players from draft will be impact players in NHL. if during 5y you have added more than 6 guys to your team, you've done well. Leafs by reasonable deduction already have 4 of these guys from last 5 drafts.
Let's all hope a few more of the list above make it to the same category - only time can tell.. (but really can't speak about 'bad draft' right now just bc Leafs drafted some overagers or big guys).

- MaximusAurelius



Please don't insult the many scouts we have here. Thank you
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 26 @ 2:50 PM ET
Please don't insult the many scouts we have here. Thank you
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jun 26 @ 2:51 PM ET
Please don't insult the many scouts we have here. Thank you
- walshyleafsfan



orienbrady22
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 02.14.2013

Jun 26 @ 2:51 PM ET
Wonder what Shanny and the crew are thinking about him? They have to at least be worried about putting him in there with his size and all. I've moved on with players having to be domi's, but he does seem a little small. Then again, I don't have a (frank)ing clue on how to run a hockey team.
- weirdoh



He will hopefully get a bit thicker... I just see no benefits from him going back to Junior.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jun 26 @ 2:52 PM ET
Please don't insult the many scouts we have here. Thank you
- Fruitcakenipple

Egg (frank)ing zactltly nips. I love you guy's but my lord, just like the brexit, you all don't deserve a voice
Toothgrinder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 02.13.2016

Jun 26 @ 2:52 PM ET
Stamkos: "Lou get my parents season tickets and I sign"
Lou brings up floor plans
Lou: "Just point out which ones."
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jun 26 @ 2:54 PM ET
He will hopefully get a bit thicker... I just see no benefits from him going back to Junior.
- orienbrady22



No, you are 100%. He's so outgrown the O talent wise he won't learn a thing there. Hell even being here and sitting some nights, just the practises alone would help. Just hope he does get a bit stronger, which he will in time.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 26 @ 2:56 PM ET
damn straight!

I think the Leafs targets in UFA , realistically will be Stamkos, Martin, and a dman.

Almost all other spots are pretty much taken. But lots will change if we don't land Stamkos. Bozak will probably be kept unfortunately. Nylander to the wing regardless.

- MCharisma91


Martin is (frank)ing garbage. He'll cost more than Greening and is significantly inferior...
grim1911
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 26 @ 2:56 PM ET
some company needs to step and offer Stamkos big $$$ if he signs in toronto... Gvie him a booster juice deal with Joey Bats if he signs lol or maybe Pita Pit? I freaking love Pita Pit!
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 26 @ 2:57 PM ET
Guys, what's that salary site we use now?
- weirdoh


generalfanager.com
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 26 @ 2:57 PM ET
Holy sweaty ballsack batman, (frank) it's hot out there!!!

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 26 @ 2:58 PM ET
some company needs to step and offer Stamkos big $$$ if he signs in toronto... Gvie him a booster juice deal with Joey Bats if he signs lol or maybe Pita Pit? I freaking love Pita Pit!
- grim1911



(frank)ing eh!!! Pita Pit
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 26 @ 2:58 PM ET
some company needs to step and offer Stamkos big $$$ if he signs in toronto... Gvie him a booster juice deal with Joey Bats if he signs lol or maybe Pita Pit? I freaking love Pita Pit!
- grim1911


Tim Hortons. Purely Canadian, plus the "hockey player crashing through the wall" jokes practically write themselves
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 26 @ 2:58 PM ET
generalfanager.com

- lumlums



what happened with that capgeek guy?
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