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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 26 @ 10:21 AM ET
Exactly right, that pitch - plus bringing in guys like Sittler and Clark to show that they can have excellent incomes after hockey which will not be the same in other markets as well as giving him a feeling of being part of very important club. That plus not working with a douche bag like Murray.
- winsix



Murray's going to show up in a van with "free candy and free money" written on the side.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 26 @ 10:23 AM ET
Polak is garbage. We don't need garbage

Rielly beat up and playing with hunwick?? A litre dramatic today are we?

- Arctic_AARDVARK



http://stats.hockeyanalys...p=1&sort=PCT&sortdir=DESC

Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 26 @ 10:24 AM ET
Go Ireland!
- systemtool

Irish are choking..
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 26 @ 10:24 AM ET
For all those whining about the draft round 2-7: please put things in perspective.

Main objective for draft is to find future top 6 FWs and Top 4d-men and a starting goalie.

We've got 30 teams in league.

Top 6 FWs: 30 x 6 = 180. Let's make it an even 200.
Top 4 D-men: 30 x 4 = 120
Starting goalies: 30 x 1 = 30. let's make it 40.

Thats 360 players.

Let's say the average career length of those top players is 10 seasons.
This means, that every draft year 36 of the top guys will be retiring, and will be replaced by new guys (from previous drafts).

This means that every season, a team needs to draft 1.2 NHL top guys (top 6fw/top4 d/starting goalie) for it to be an 'expected draft' and over that to be a better draft than expected.

Over 5 drafts, that's 6 players that eventually will be top guys in NHL (with on average 10 playing seasons).

Last 5 drafts for Leafs: Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Rielly all seem like 'sure bets' for the top player category. (and actually to all be in category of top3 fw / top2 D-men, so high quality; normal for top10 picks).

Out of the 2012 - 2016 drafts, if more than 2 players become top4 D / starting goalie / top 6 fw, the Leafs have done better than expected in the draft..

Seems quite probable that Leafs will indeed accomplish that:

potential top 6 FW: Brown / Bracco / Timashov
potential top 4 D: Loov / Valiev / Dermott / Nielsen
potential starting goalie: Bibeau / Woll

In addition, Leafs recently added Kapanen, Lindberg, Rychel, Leipsic as well through trade; draft picks from the same drafts that have some options to make top6 fw role as well..

Conclusion: every year, only about 36 players from draft will be impact players in NHL. if during 5y you have added more than 6 guys to your team, you've done well. Leafs by reasonable deduction already have 4 of these guys from last 5 drafts.
Let's all hope a few more of the list above make it to the same category - only time can tell.. (but really can't speak about 'bad draft' right now just bc Leafs drafted some overagers or big guys).
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jun 26 @ 10:25 AM ET
Bob McCown ‏@FadooBobcat 21h21 hours ago
Do the Leafs have a plan to pay Stamkos 3.5M in non-cap dollars per year thru marketing? Told the proposal has been vetted!
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 26 @ 10:25 AM ET
Irish are choking..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Good
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 26 @ 10:28 AM ET
Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 2m2 minutes ago
Alexander Radulov could not find an NHL team willing to pay his asking price. He has signed with KHL Salavat.


Good (frank)ing riddance...

- lumlums

They were drooling to sign him.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jun 26 @ 10:29 AM ET
They were drooling to sign him.
- Atomic Wedgie

Oh my...
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 26 @ 10:30 AM ET
They were drooling to sign him.
- Atomic Wedgie



He'll be on a line with Victor Pavlov.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 26 @ 10:34 AM ET
He'll be on a line with Victor Pavlov.
- Canada Cup

Is Mark Bell available?
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 26 @ 10:38 AM ET
Is Mark Bell available?
- Atomic Wedgie



I wonder what longtime HB poster Rang has to say on the matter...?
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jun 26 @ 10:40 AM ET
Go Ireland!
- systemtool

Yup. Not looking good at all
Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Jun 26 @ 10:44 AM ET
Leafs being sued by draftkings for copyright infringement.
LeafsFan23
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: He's big, he's bald, he's Alex Auld, ON
Joined: 07.23.2009

Jun 26 @ 10:54 AM ET
Leafs being sued by draftkings for copyright infringement.
- Bigzby


Therefore draftkings is owned and operated by a buffalo sabres fan.
Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Jun 26 @ 10:57 AM ET
That Eichel v Matthews article summary.

Granato wont pick one over the other but follows that up with giving matthews a decisive 7-2 victory in the categorized skills battle
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 26 @ 11:10 AM ET
expect Hartikainen to come back to NA and play for Leafs upcoming season.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:13 AM ET
expect Hartikainen to come back to NA and play for Leafs upcoming season.
- MaximusAurelius


He'll have a shot at camp. Along with 9000 other players fighting for a handful of spots.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 26 @ 11:13 AM ET
expect Hartikainen to come back to NA and play for Leafs upcoming season.
- MaximusAurelius



Where are you hearing that?
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 26 @ 11:17 AM ET
Where are you hearing that?
- Garnie

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 26 @ 11:18 AM ET

- MaximusAurelius


oh, I thought you read it somewhere

Does that ball happen to show where Stammer is going to sign?
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TITS baby, TITS - Trust In The Shanaplan, ON
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:22 AM ET
expect Hartikainen to come back to NA and play for Leafs upcoming season.
- MaximusAurelius


Should probably change your location now, Max.
DarcyTucker16
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St.Albert, AB
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 26 @ 11:27 AM ET
Where did you climb?
- The Law

Mount Niblock at lake louise. Not a terribly difficult one... about 8-9 hours up and down
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 26 @ 11:28 AM ET
oh, I thought you read it somewhere

Does that ball happen to show where Stammer is going to sign?

- Garnie


Don't need the crystal ball to know that Stamkos will sign with Leafs.

Leafs offer at least as good a team as Detroit, Buffalo, Mtl (seems like biggest competitor for LEafs in Stamkos signing to me).
Best staff (coach) and facilities.

Money, Leafs is cleary the best option, even at 3million less per year in contract.

Signing with Leafs, in Endorsements Stamkos could earn 5-8million a year for sure.
There's a thousand other ways he could make money by signing with leafs.
He could even set up his own clothing line, named something like 'finally home' and make some good money off of that as well..

To me it seems like a no-brainer to sign with his 'home team'; in particular for a guy that wants to prove he belongs in HHOF (bringing a cup to Toronto as the new Captain would probably do that).
Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Jun 26 @ 11:30 AM ET
Mount Niblock at lake louise. Not a terribly difficult one... about 8-9 hours up and down
- DarcyTucker16


Don't they have ski lifts?
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 26 @ 11:31 AM ET
Should probably change your location now, Max.
- Phenom

yeah.. true.
at least i got matthews right
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