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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: 2016 Draft - Day 2 - Leafs Open With Pick Or Trade Down?
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 25 @ 5:28 PM ET
Yeah, I wonder why.
- Zezel



Someone posted an analysis of overage values. More teams getting into analytics and such. I bet teams are using their analytics teams to redraft years to see where their data places them and see how they turned out.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jun 25 @ 5:29 PM ET
Someone posted an analysis of overage values. More teams getting into analytics and such. I bet teams are using their analytics teams to redraft years to see where their data places them and see how they turned out.
- burn



If there has ever been an opening sentence to make me not read the rest...well...
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 25 @ 5:30 PM ET
I love how 29 other teams' picks in those rounds will all pan out because one was picked at 45 when he was slated to go 46. STEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (don't think that happened, but you know what I mean)
- weirdoh


Yup. I'm just looking at it saying cool, some big boys, if they work great. Not many big men in the system. Or Russians, cool, because I like Danny Markov and Konstantinov. Or I wanted Dube because it's a funny name, that's how tight my science is.

Actually I do hope Shanny and Babs have some connections in Russian hockey, like Federov, from their Red Wings connections, since the Wings did so well in that area. But it's all hope, it's a bunch of pulls on the slot machine arm.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 25 @ 5:30 PM ET
Gotta have faith in Hunter..He's proven to know what he's doing..
- Fruitcakenipple

How?

Please explain.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 25 @ 5:31 PM ET
Yeah he called it the Shannyplan
- Phenom

Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 25 @ 5:33 PM ET
Someone posted an analysis of overage values. More teams getting into analytics and such. I bet teams are using their analytics teams to redraft years to see where their data places them and see how they turned out.
- burn


Maybe that extra bit of time they've had to show their game reduces the uncertainty by some percentage points or something, any way to get a little more accurate.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 25 @ 5:33 PM ET
How?

Please explain.

- Atomic Wedgie


Got no time for croutons..sorry..
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 25 @ 5:33 PM ET
Bob mccown is a (frank)ing clown

ob McCown‏ @FadooBobcat
Do the Leafs have a plan to pay Stamkos 3.5M in non-cap dollars per year thru marketing? Told the proposal has been vetted!

- burn



poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337
Joined: 09.12.2009

Jun 25 @ 5:33 PM ET
i immediately saw pierre maguire saying this and coupling it with the word MONSTER.

i dont know how he would do it,

but that man could make it happen.

he's just that good.

- Dozzer

daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jun 25 @ 5:34 PM ET
Well considering his job being the draft and his OHL history he's proven to know youth..Nothing to do with what he has done in NHL...Drafting youth
- Fruitcakenipple

The OHL draft is a whole different thing though. Hunter hasn't proven anything yet. We should all hope he ends up being a talent evaluating god but until the results are in we simply don't know how good he is at his job.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 25 @ 5:34 PM ET
The OHL draft is a whole different thing though. Hunter hasn't proven anything yet. We should all hope he ends up being a talent evaluating god but until the results are in we simply don't know how good he is at his job.
- daeth



No it's not..
winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
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Jun 25 @ 5:34 PM ET
i'd give it an A for matthews alone

as for the other prospects there is a ton of upside for each of them... but they need work... even if only 2 or 3 of them turn out to be good players... it will be a very big win for the draft

- Dozzer

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 25 @ 5:35 PM ET
Maybe that extra bit of time they've had to show their game reduces the uncertainty by some percentage points or something, any way to get a little more accurate.
- Zezel

Except they weren't worth a 7th round pick, according to 30 teams, just one year ago.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jun 25 @ 5:36 PM ET
No it's not..
- Fruitcakenipple

Yes it is. Completely different.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 25 @ 5:36 PM ET
Except they weren't worth a 7th round pick, according to 30 teams, just one year ago.
- Atomic Wedgie


i assume players can develop after they are 18.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 25 @ 5:37 PM ET
And at the end of the day, the Leafs got the big prize. All the other guys could not work out. It's highly likely to be better than in the past, when it was like oh yeah, that draft was pretty good, we got a Kaberle, we got a Kulemin. I like those guys but who gives a poop, other teams got a Seguin, a Rask. This is more like it.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 25 @ 5:37 PM ET
Yes it is. Completely different.
- daeth



Nope...Both drafting unproven talent...
winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 25 @ 5:38 PM ET
I'm not sure how Mr Pegula feels about Murray trying to bang his wife...
- Bigzby

Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 25 @ 5:38 PM ET
Except they weren't worth a 7th round pick, according to 30 teams, just one year ago.
- Atomic Wedgie


Maybe those other teams were wrong, most selections are wrong. Most of these picks the Leafs made will be wrong.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 25 @ 5:38 PM ET
i assume players can develop after they are 18.
- Dozzer


Na..apparently
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jun 25 @ 5:38 PM ET
How?

Please explain.

- Atomic Wedgie



My guess is that it might be because he has be evaluating talent all over the world for a long time. Then, he has drafted those players to the OHL level and has thusly been able to create a track record of those drafted juniors players moving on to get drafted and play at the NHL level.

Not sure what that record is but maybe one of the smarter guys on the site could take a look at that.

It might answer your question with some actual stats and knowledge....much better than my guess.

I took a shot at explaining at least.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 5:38 PM ET
Except they weren't worth a 7th round pick, according to 30 teams, just one year ago.
- Atomic Wedgie

Someone should tell Tampa Bay with Johnson and Palat. Or LA with Pearson. That Palat is poop
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 25 @ 5:39 PM ET
Maybe those other teams were wrong, most selections are wrong. Most of these picks the Leafs made will be wrong.
- Zezel


you're a leafs fan alright
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jun 25 @ 5:39 PM ET
Nope...Both drafting unproven talent...
- Fruitcakenipple

we shall agree to disagree on this one then good sir
poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337
Joined: 09.12.2009

Jun 25 @ 5:39 PM ET
And at the end of the day, the Leafs got the big prize. All the other guys could not work out. It's highly likely to be better than in the past, when it was like oh yeah, that draft was pretty good, we got a Kaberle, we got a Kulemin. I like those guys but who gives a poop, other teams got a Seguin, a Rask. This is more like it.
- Zezel

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