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Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jun 25 @ 10:24 AM ET
Wiz, your opinion on Libor Hajek?
- 93Joe

The TBL liked him apparently
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:25 AM ET
lots of Wiz guys still there, don't F it up Stan, and more so Mark Kelly
93Joe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.09.2015

Jun 25 @ 10:25 AM ET
The TBL liked him apparently
- Marlowe

damn... I came up short
hawkeytalkman
Joined: 01.11.2016

Jun 25 @ 10:25 AM ET
Hawks draft with Debrincat the #39 overall pick

Ranked #29 overall by NHL central scouting
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jun 25 @ 10:26 AM ET
Another RW - Debrincat?
hawkeytalkman
Joined: 01.11.2016

Jun 25 @ 10:27 AM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 29s29 seconds ago
CHI takes Alex DeBrincat at No. 39. Was No. 33 on TSN list. One of only two 50-goal scorers in draft. Bellows was the other.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:27 AM ET
Hawks draft with Debrincat the #39 overall pick

Ranked #29 overall

- hawkeytalkman


OK, let us know Wiz, remember him getting suspended at the World Jrs.

Who's next at 45?
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:27 AM ET
For experienced campaigners, the current men in charge seem to be playing this with no set plan. Fair enough players like Panarin are just freaks that you can't predict will break the bank, but I would have thought there's plans D, E, & F ready to roll for 'Justin'.

In saying that, even the Saad trade, & the Sharp debacle are events that should have people concerned about how water tight the dinghy is?? It just looks like they don't know, & to say you don't know what a trade will return ok, you prepare for the worst & the best. You have a plan for at least the cap, the ability of the team you ice is harder to prepare for.

An example would be, who do they have in mind for the LW position? How much are they putting aside to fill that gap, or which player is being promoted until they have to replace him (& how much are they putting aside?)?

Edit:'Justin - just in case'

- Aussiepenguin


The model was always sign the core and fill around from Rockford, NCAA and Euro FA. Wash, rinse, repeat. A solid model that has won 3 cups.

Problem is the cap hasn't cooperated so there is less to pay the fill ins as you lose talent every year when it's time for that talent to be paid. Add they have depleted the farm and draft picks to make TDL moves for cup runs making it more difficult each year to replace lost talent due to the cap. This happens year after year after year after year and soon there is little or no more rope to pull on, which is where they may be now, a 7 man core that eats near 70% of the cap, little talent, draft picks or money to replace the solid support players lost.

Then with this model as the cap constricts you slowly slide backwards into mediocrity. That's where the absence of plans b, c and d are evident, as you allude to.

The model with 67% of the cap tied up in 7 core players (not counting AA's 4.5 mil) has seemingly run it's course but as of yet I just don't see a plan b, c or d. And that is exactly what I've been watching for this offseason.


StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:27 AM ET
Datsyuk has a flat salary in this three year deal. So Detroit did not get any benefit of cap lower than any salary. So there's that.

For Hoss, unless there is an amendment to the CBA, the 'Hawks are stuck with a minimum $3.675M recapture penalty. Plus there is another huge hole to fill.

I for one believe Hoss has a some tread left on those tires. Properly used --- and here we go again with making the right cap moves to fill out a good roster --- Hossa has a minimum three more years. He is an outstanding athlete, and great 200' player.

- blackhawk24


How can any league that hopes be seen as having any integrity:

Allow a team that executes a contract that was completely legal (and approved by the league when signed) to be subsequently potentially punished for it?

Allow (a) a team to eliminate a cap hit by trading the contract of a player who has no intention of playing, and (b) allow a team to get that contract to satisfy its cap floor without spending one dime for it or actually have the player skate for them?
bhawk1s
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 25 @ 10:27 AM ET
Another RW - Debrincat?
- Marlowe

he fits into tt's old jersey ?
airmidget1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Palatine, IL
Joined: 02.26.2015

Jun 25 @ 10:28 AM ET
Hawks draft with Debrincat the #39 overall pick

Ranked #29 overall by NHL central scouting

- hawkeytalkman


5'7" 167lbs.. Wonderful
howiehandles
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.18.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:28 AM ET
damn... I came up short
- 93Joe



So did the Hawks. Alexander DeBrincat is only 5'7"

Not a bad pick though.
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jun 25 @ 10:28 AM ET
Per @marklazerus
Alex Debrincat is the 21st-rated North American skater. He is 5-foot-7, but had 51 goals in each of his two OHL seasons.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:28 AM ET
Another RW - Debrincat?
- Marlowe


System has been gutted, you draft the highest player on your board at every pick today
93Joe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.09.2015

Jun 25 @ 10:28 AM ET
Another RW - Debrincat?
- Marlowe

A 5'7" RW. Thought they would go for size

50 goal scorer though. Pretty significant.
Yikes726
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 03.22.2013

Jun 25 @ 10:29 AM ET
That pick was brutal
A smurf that will never make the league
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jun 25 @ 10:29 AM ET
Blackhawks have a whopping 10 picks today: 39, 45, 50, 83, 95, 113, 143, 144, 173, 203.
93Joe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.09.2015

Jun 25 @ 10:30 AM ET
Blackhawks have a whopping 10 picks today: 39, 45, 50, 83, 95, 113, 143, 144, 173, 203.
- Marlowe

Hopefully pick 45 is a kid above 5'10"
howiehandles
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.18.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:30 AM ET
A 5'7" RW. Thought they would go for size

50 goal scorer though. Pretty significant.

- 93Joe



Especially considering he scored 51 goals even after McDavid left.
golfbard
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NY
Joined: 06.22.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:31 AM ET
System has been gutted, you draft the highest player on your board at every pick today
- vabeachbear



This this this. Like any great team. [url]
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:31 AM ET
That pick was brutal
A smurf that will never make the league

- Yikes726


nhl scout?
hawkeytalkman
Joined: 01.11.2016

Jun 25 @ 10:32 AM ET
Blackhawks take Chad Krys with the #45 overall pick
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:32 AM ET
Damn tampa took wiz's guy.

letting Yzerman see your notes?
Yikes726
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 03.22.2013

Jun 25 @ 10:33 AM ET
nhl scout?
- vabeachbear


Nope, but there are some kids I know...
hawkeytalkman
Joined: 01.11.2016

Jun 25 @ 10:33 AM ET
Corey Pronman ‏@coreypronman 16s17 seconds ago
Chicago takes Chad Krys, one of biggest fallers on my board from last summer. Very mobile and skilled but needs to improve defense.

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 30s31 seconds ago
CHI takes Chad Krys at No. 45. Another guy going to BU. Krys was No. 67 on TSN list.
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