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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:23 AM ET
that would be such a bad thing if he turns into him.
- rinaldo

it would be very bad for the rangers big body that plays soft and makes a lot of bad decisions on the ice
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 25 @ 11:23 AM ET
Flyers need to start gambling on ceilings with later picks. There are a lot of high potential, risk/reward players lurking about.
- Mononoke



Seems like Hexy has a "type" in this years draft. Two way players with some offensive upside. But a 200 foot game seems to be the theme of the draft so far.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 25 @ 11:23 AM ET
Rest of the names on my list. Rounds are obviously more ballpark than exact. Lots of high ceiling players on that list or imo steal skillsets.
Boyer83
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ft Worth, TX
Joined: 12.16.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:23 AM ET
Insight on Twarynski, oh Wise One?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 11:24 AM ET
Twarynski? That's a reach for me.

Does kind of meet the theme here, though. Rubtsov, Allison & Twarynski are all noted for being tenacious on the forecheck and guys that are ball to the wall. Still would prefer skill over grit, but I'm not upset
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 25 @ 11:24 AM ET
Rest of the names on my list. Rounds are obviously more ballpark than exact. Lots of high ceiling players on that list or imo steal skillsets.
- Mononoke


ROUND 3:

- Lucas Carlsson LD

ROUND 4:

- Filip Berglund RD
- Dmitry Sokolov W
- Rem Pitlick C
- Jesper Bratt W
- Tobias Eder C
- Matthew Phillips C
- Ty Ronning RW
- Jordan Sambrook RD
- Max Lajoie LD

ROUND 5:

- Tanner Laczynski C
- Mathias From RW
- Brayden Burke LW
- Kyle Maksimovich LW
- Domenic Commisso C
- Riley Stillman D
- Mitchell Mattson C
- Max Zimmer LW
- Jake Ryczek RD

ROUND 6:

- Alan Lyszczarczyk LW
- Jack Walker LW
- Luke McInnis LD
- Cameron Clarke RD
- Ross Colton LW
- Dawson Davidson LD
- Gabriel Fontaine C
- Kristian Reichel C
- Ondrej Najman C

ROUND 7:

- Andrei Svetlakov C/W
- Tyler Soy C
- Otto Koivula LW
- Johnny Corneil C
- Hugh McGing W
- Joachim Blichfeld RW/LW
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:24 AM ET
Flyers need to start gambling on ceilings with later picks. There are a lot of high potential, risk/reward players lurking about.
- Mononoke

havent shown that in the past so hope they change it up
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:25 AM ET
carsen twarynski?
- 2Real


From the hockey writers: This season, he’s emerged as arguably the Hitmen’s most consistent player. While he arguably lacks high-end offensive skill and isn’t likely to dazzle with stick-handling, he uses his speed and size well to get into the center lane of the ice and create havoc in front of the opposition’s net.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 25 @ 11:25 AM ET
Laberge has high end skill. It's the other stuff that's a work in progress. Even Allison has a lot of skill for a PWF. He's no lug. The hockey sense knocks are what concern me.

I'll say this though, both have sniping ability.

- Mononoke


I was hoping for guys who could help control play a little more. I think "Natural sniping ability" is overrated.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:25 AM ET
it would be very bad for the rangers big body that plays soft and makes a lot of bad decisions on the ice
- 2Real

if he turned into coburn the rangers would be thrilled to death. give your head a shake
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:25 AM ET
From the hockey writers: This season, he’s emerged as arguably the Hitmen’s most consistent player. While he arguably lacks high-end offensive skill and isn’t likely to dazzle with stick-handling, he uses his speed and size well to get into the center lane of the ice and create havoc in front of the opposition’s net.
- coffee junkie

well that would be a good 3rd line player
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 25 @ 11:26 AM ET
Twarynski? That's a reach for me.

Does kind of meet the theme here, though. Rubtsov, Allison & Twarynski are all noted for being tenacious on the forecheck and guys that are ball to the wall. Still would prefer skill over grit, but I'm not upset

- Jsaquella


We got Twarynski in the same round as Abramov and Bitten....that's just
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 25 @ 11:28 AM ET
We got Twarynski in the same round as Abramov and Bitten....that's just
- Mononoke

well they were picked before
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
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Jun 25 @ 11:28 AM ET
well that would be a good 3rd line player
- 2Real



Seems Hexy is trying to restock in the grit department as well as skill.

Lots of tenacious "middle six" type forwards to go along with the elite defensemen already in the system.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:30 AM ET
Seems Hexy is trying to restock in the grit department as well as skill.

Lots of tenacious "middle six" type forwards to go along with the elite defensemen already in the system.

- MBFlyerfan

well since we have giroux voracek and simmonds on the top and maybe stamkos we'll need to round out the middle and bottom
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 25 @ 11:31 AM ET
I was hoping for guys who could help control play a little more. I think "Natural sniping ability" is overrated.
- PhillySportsGuy


Buddy, I'm not exactly jumping up and down about today so far either. Really only the last pick do I really dislike.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 25 @ 11:32 AM ET
Colangelo had a better draft than Hexy
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.10.2010

Jun 25 @ 11:32 AM ET

- penguininnevada


I still hate him
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 25 @ 11:32 AM ET
Director of NHL Central Scouting Dan Marr:
"Laberge is a high-skilled forward with good hockey sense. He's a strong skater with an extra gear to pull away with the puck. He has soft hands and good vision to make plays and finish scoring chances."

- nastyflyergirl


Thank you
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 25 @ 11:32 AM ET
well since we have giroux voracek and simmonds on the top and maybe stamkos we'll need to round out the middle and bottom
- 2Real



Im thinking that may be his reasoning. Up the skill level of the second and third lines while at the same time adding grit.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 25 @ 11:33 AM ET
We got Twarynski in the same round as Abramov and Bitten....that's just
- Mononoke


This the most "typical Flyers" draft of Hextall's tenure.

Solid, but unspectacular after round 1. But these are guys that should fit with what Hakstol likes to do.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 25 @ 11:34 AM ET
With 2 picks and the "grit" locked up, please take some lottery tickets now, Hexy. Balance it out.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 25 @ 11:34 AM ET
Laberge, Pascal RW– Victoriaville Tigres (QMJHL) – 6’01”, 173
HockeyProspect.com Ranking: 48

Laberge was the 2nd overall pick in the 2014 QMJHL Draft by the Gatineau Olympiques. He only played for half the year with them before he was dealt to Victoriaville. That trade reunited him with his Midget AAA coach Bruce Richardson, with whom he went all the way to the Telus Cup final in 2013-2014 with the Grenadiers de Châteauguay.

It took until December this season to see Laberge to start playing some great hockey, the kind that you expect from a top prospect. At that time, he started playing on the wing full-time, which seemed to click for him offensively, with less responsibility and more freedom to create offense. He went on a great run in December before breaking a bone in his hand, but made it back for the Top Prospects’ Game where he was named MVP, playing great alongside fellow Quebecer Pierre-Luc Dubois. Overall this season, Laberge had 45 of his 68 points after December 1st, showing great progression through the season. The St-Martine native skates well and is a good scorer. We like his scoring potential more, even if he had a lot of assists this season. He has a good shot and can score from anywhere in the offensive zone, but his decision-making will need to improve. He has great puck skills, great one-on-one moves and can make defenders playing the puck instead of the man regret that decision.

Physically, he will need to get bigger and stronger, as he is not a physical player and doesn’t win enough one-on-one battles. Laberge is an exciting player on the ice with his speed and hands that grant him the ability to make highlight-reel plays, but he’s still searching for that consistency that could make him an elite player. He’s not involved in the play enough; in some viewings he barely touched the puck and was on the perimeter too often. At this level, he still can get by, due to his superior skill level. But once he reaches the pros, this tendency could hurt him. Another area he will need to improve on is his defensive game. Moving him to the wing was a way of giving him less defensive responsibilities compared to a center. He still needs to be more focused in the defensive zone, leaning towards making the smart play instead of cheating to go on offense. Laberge progressed well this year; after a tough rookie season and an up-and-down first half he took a major step from December onwards and was one of the top players in the league in this portion. He has areas in his game that he needs to improve on, but you can’t deny his offensive upside and skill level. At the U-18s, he scored twice on the power play in the tournament but his decision-making and complete game was lacking.

Quotable: “Much better on the wing than at center, but he still remains a frustrating player on the ice in terms of his decision-making, most notably in passing situations.” –HP scout Jérôme Bérubé

- Mononoke


Thanks, as well
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 25 @ 11:34 AM ET
Buddy, I'm not exactly jumping up and down about today so far either. Really only the last pick do I really dislike.
- Mononoke


I guess my main concern was that the team needed young, high end skill and they still haven't really added that yet.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:34 AM ET
Colangelo had a better draft than Hexy
- PhillySportsGuy


Time for a new GM. I wish NHL GM's had the ability to know right away how good a draft is, like the fans do.
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