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Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 24 @ 2:06 PM ET
I blame Mandela
- homiedclown

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Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jun 24 @ 2:09 PM ET
To ANA: #8
To BUFF: Fowler, #30


then.....an hour later...

To TB: #30, #69 and #130
To BUFF: #27, Stamkos Rights

Sabres draft Markus Neimelainen with #27, still have a second and 2 thirds to use to move up in the second.

- StaziakAttack

No thank you

And why are we trading for his rights? We can talk to him tomorrow and so can any other team. We don't gain anything
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 24 @ 2:09 PM ET
get a waiver
- Khmylev



And that's not even a guarantee I've been told.

Someday I will, after paying for a Vegas trip - driving 2 hours to airport - fly to TO - get hauled into customs and rejected then have to ask for flight back to Ottawa. My travelling bug has lessened.
StaziakAttack
Location: Blasdell, NY
Joined: 02.04.2014

Jun 24 @ 2:11 PM ET
No thank you

And why are we trading for his rights? We can talk to him tomorrow and so can any other team. We don't gain anything

- Zschalberg


We gain 1 week to negotiate, same as Vesey....
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jun 24 @ 2:12 PM ET
We gain 1 week to negotiate, same as Vesey....
- StaziakAttack

We gained 2 months to negotiate with Vesey and any team can negotiate with Stamkos starting tomorrow, they just can't put ink to paper. Saturday - July 1st he can talk to any team. July 1st he can sign.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 24 @ 2:12 PM ET
We gain 1 week to negotiate, same as Vesey....
- StaziakAttack



We have Vesey until August 15th

cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 24 @ 2:13 PM ET
I think we broke hockeybuzz.

Front page shows 333 posts for the Sabres. We are over 525.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jun 24 @ 2:13 PM ET
I think we broke hockeybuzz.

Front page shows 333 posts for the Sabres. We are over 525.

- cabin

Posts about Toronto don't count
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 24 @ 2:13 PM ET
We gained 2 months to negotiate with Vesey and any team can negotiate with him starting tomorrow, they just can't put ink to paper. Saturday - July 1st he can talk to any team. July 1st he can sign.
- Zschalberg



Stamkos yes, Vesey no only the Sabres can talk to him
50GinosIn07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bylsmania, NY
Joined: 04.05.2015

Jun 24 @ 2:13 PM ET
If we get Fowler I think it's right before the draft starts. Anaheim is holding out hope that someone will offer their first for him.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 24 @ 2:14 PM ET
We gained 2 months to negotiate with Vesey and any team can negotiate with Stamkos starting tomorrow, they just can't put ink to paper. Saturday - July 1st he can talk to any team. July 1st he can sign.
- Zschalberg


Vesey has to wait till Aug to be able to sign.
StaziakAttack
Location: Blasdell, NY
Joined: 02.04.2014

Jun 24 @ 2:14 PM ET
We gained 2 months to negotiate with Vesey and any team can negotiate with Stamkos starting tomorrow, they just can't put ink to paper. Saturday - July 1st he can talk to any team. July 1st he can sign.
- Zschalberg

Sabres could sign him tomorrow and not wait until July 1.
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 24 @ 2:14 PM ET
And that's not even a guarantee I've been told.

Someday I will, after paying for a Vegas trip - driving 2 hours to airport - fly to TO - get hauled into customs and rejected then have to ask for flight back to Ottawa. My travelling bug has lessened.

- Garnie


yes it is.
I have a buddy that got caught at the border - high and in possession of a bunch of E.

10yrs have gone by, we have been south several times together - no probs. He gets the waiver and has to go to airport about 2 hours before everyone else - but it's never been an issue.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jun 24 @ 2:14 PM ET
Stamkos yes, Vesey no only the Sabres can talk to him
- Stripes77

Yeah, I clarified that after reading it. Stamkos tomorrow. Vesey in August.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 24 @ 2:15 PM ET
Sabres could sign him tomorrow and not wait until July 1.
- StaziakAttack



No, no they can't this coming directly from Tim Murray's mouth. It's in the CBA
Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

Jun 24 @ 2:15 PM ET
And that's not even a guarantee I've been told.

Someday I will, after paying for a Vegas trip - driving 2 hours to airport - fly to TO - get hauled into customs and rejected then have to ask for flight back to Ottawa. My travelling bug has lessened.

- Garnie


It's all but guaranteed dude. I've processed a bunch in my day. You can apply at Pearson now I believe.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jun 24 @ 2:15 PM ET
Sabres could sign him tomorrow and not wait until July 1.
- StaziakAttack

Yeah, they could, but you're telling me Stamkos is 7 days away from free agency for the only time in his life and he's going to give it up without even looking? I'll put those odds very very low.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 24 @ 2:16 PM ET
yes it is.
I have a buddy that got caught at the border - high and in possession of a bunch of E.

10yrs have gone by, we have been south several times together - no probs. He gets the waiver and has to go to airport about 2 hours before everyone else - but it's never been an issue.

- Cooshie




Customs guy told me to get waiver but you can still be refused

Also I was told $700 every time you get a waiver?
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jun 24 @ 2:16 PM ET
No, no they can't this coming directly from Tim Murray's mouth. It's in the CBA
- Stripes77

Stamkos I think they could. I think Vesey is different since it's an ELC
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 24 @ 2:16 PM ET
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 24 @ 2:17 PM ET
It's all but guaranteed dude. I've processed a bunch in my day. You can apply at Pearson now I believe.
- Khmylev





I guess I need my pardon first?
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jun 24 @ 2:17 PM ET
headed downtown soon...anyone else gonna be there

(yeah, I used 'gonna')

- Michael Pachla


Meeeee!!!
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 24 @ 2:17 PM ET
Stamkos I think they could. I think Vesey is different since it's an ELC
- Zschalberg



Stamkos yes, Vesey is different
Phatjohnsn
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.28.2016

Jun 24 @ 2:17 PM ET
opinions: who is biggest Free Agent acquisition the Sabres have ever had? Not trade, not draft. By name/production. Go.
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 24 @ 2:17 PM ET
For the most part, I think teams have a good indication if a player is going to sign with them if they trade assets for rights. If Buffalo does trade for Stamkos rights, it is most likely because they are confident that they are very close (yeah, I believe teams speak to players when they shouldn't, maybe not direct, but they speak - who really doesn't believe this?!).
trading that asset is still a good thing to do because no one can pop in and steal him away before the contract is signed (if it's already close).
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