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The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jun 24 @ 2:26 PM ET
That is probably the most that might happen in the Flames favor. I would be more then happy with just that. Then it will be up to Vancouver to see who the Flames get. I'm not sure which I prefer. I think Tkachuk, but would not be upset with Dubois at all.
- dal_johnson


Agreed!
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Jun 24 @ 2:34 PM ET
Stuff it Clyde......GFY!!!
- The-O-G

bigbear89
Calgary Flames
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 07.31.2012

Jun 24 @ 2:55 PM ET
No worries. I fully expect nothing to happen. Picks 1 thru 6 will happen with no movement. The top 5 will go as expected. Flames will pick Nylander, Juolevi, or Sergachyov. In the end it al becomes pretty boring and almost predetermined with the top picks.

Every team is supposedly willing or looking to move, but none of them actually want to pay to do so. So nothing extra ever happens. There has been about 6 draft day trades in the last 10 years that involved top 10 picks, and only 1 of those was top 5 (basically a 5th for 8th swap). Almost all the upper teams want to see what they can get, but will never get offered what they think that they should.

It's fun to make fantasy trades but nothing ever actually happens.

- dal_johnson



NOPE WE ARE GETTING PUJU AND BEN BISHOP
dr_soiledpants
Calgary Flames
Location: Watrous, SK
Joined: 08.15.2015

Jun 24 @ 2:56 PM ET
Sounds like maybe the Coil might want Juolevi at 4. If that's the case we land Tkachuk or Dubois

- The-O-G


Might be their only option if they aren't willing to overpay for an NHL defenceman.
dal_johnson
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jun 24 @ 3:06 PM ET
Might be their only option if they aren't willing to overpay for an NHL defenceman.
- dr_soiledpants


It always seems with the Oilers that it's not even that they aren't willing to overpay, but they aren't even willing to give equal value.

Seems like they think that they have all the leverage in any trade attempt because their forwards were such high draft picks. They are the team with the extreme need. What they have isn't working. Step up, take the hit, and pay what they need to, to get what it is obvious that they need. One would think that the new management team wouldn't continue this trend that Lowe and MacTavish always had.

But if their unwilling to do it, and choose to go with Juolevi, then I am all for it.
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Jun 24 @ 3:09 PM ET
It always seems with the Oilers that it's not even that they aren't willing to overpay, but they aren't even willing to give equal value.

Seems like they think that they have all the leverage in any trade attempt because their forwards were such high draft picks. They are the team with the extreme need. What they have isn't working. Step up, take the hit, and pay what they need to, to get what it is obvious that they need. One would think that the new management team wouldn't continue this trend that Lowe and MacTavish always had.

But if their unwilling to do it, and choose to go with Juolevi, then I am all for it.

- dal_johnson

If they don't take a D man they have something in the water that makes their management nuts!
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Jun 24 @ 3:12 PM ET
Derek Wills on the fan thinks if the Flames don't move up they'll take Logan Brown...
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Jun 24 @ 3:12 PM ET
And the O-G can suck it!!
dr_soiledpants
Calgary Flames
Location: Watrous, SK
Joined: 08.15.2015

Jun 24 @ 3:15 PM ET
Derek Wills on the fan thinks if the Flames don't move up they'll take Logan Brown...
- Clyde334


I heard that too. Wills is (frank)ed.
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Jun 24 @ 3:19 PM ET
I heard that too. Wills is (frank)ed.
- dr_soiledpants

Yup
ScotsonFire
Calgary Flames
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.18.2013

Jun 24 @ 3:47 PM ET
Since that iggy guy is hanging around here and we're all just throwing proposals around like macaroni at a kindergarten howz about this one!

Smid and 2nd for yakapov!

The best offer the Oilers can get and Smid immediately improves their poor defence!

Only because that iggy guy is around
dal_johnson
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jun 24 @ 3:51 PM ET
Derek Wills on the fan thinks if the Flames don't move up they'll take Logan Brown...
- Clyde334


If that's the case then drop a few spots and gain an extra asset.

Arizona and Buffalo supposedly want defensemen. swap with Buffalo so that they can get first choice ahead of the Coyotes. Then they can still pick Brown at that spot.

Maybe Buffalo would add Marcus Foligno and 8th to get 6th?

Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Jun 24 @ 4:06 PM ET
If that's the case then drop a few spots and gain an extra asset.

Arizona and Buffalo supposedly want defensemen. swap with Buffalo so that they can get first choice ahead of the Coyotes. Then they can still pick Brown at that spot.

Maybe Buffalo would add Marcus Foligno and 8th to get 6th?

- dal_johnson

I get it but man there's better picks to make.
dal_johnson
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jun 24 @ 4:10 PM ET
I get it but man there's better picks to make.
- Clyde334


Definitley better picks. Just responding to the idea that was said that the Flames would pick Brown at 6th. If that is who they want then drop down and get something extra.
dr_soiledpants
Calgary Flames
Location: Watrous, SK
Joined: 08.15.2015

Jun 24 @ 4:18 PM ET
Definitley better picks. Just responding to the idea that was said that the Flames would pick Brown at 6th. If that is who they want then drop down and get something extra.
- dal_johnson


I agree, but i hope brown isn't their guy. BT is smarter than that. I think this pick will reveal just how much Burke is involved. Burke=Brown.... BT=Nylander or a dman
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Jun 24 @ 4:33 PM ET
I agree, but i hope brown isn't their guy. BT is smarter than that. I think this pick will reveal just how much Burke is involved. Burke=Brown.... BT=Nylander or a dman
- dr_soiledpants

Agreed!
jexponent3
Location: AB
Joined: 07.08.2013

Jun 24 @ 4:38 PM ET
I agree, but i hope brown isn't their guy. BT is smarter than that. I think this pick will reveal just how much Burke is involved. Burke=Brown.... BT=Nylander or a dman
- dr_soiledpants


I like the idea of getting Brown, but agree not at 6. I read an article saying his dad didn't want him working out so it wouldn't stunt his growth (it worked!), so to be ranked fairly high is pretty darn good. I wonder where he'd be ranked if he had fitnessed it up as much as Dubois or Nylander.
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Jun 24 @ 4:42 PM ET
B MacKenzie confirms that TB has let the Flames talk contract with Bishop!
DinoRondelly
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.03.2011

Jun 24 @ 4:43 PM ET
Anyone but Jimmy Howard
DinoRondelly
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.03.2011

Jun 24 @ 4:43 PM ET
B MacKenzie confirms that TB has let the Flames talk contract with Bishop!
- Clyde334


He is asking 7 x7 ... seems very expensive
bigbear89
Calgary Flames
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 07.31.2012

Jun 24 @ 4:44 PM ET
He is asking 7 x7 ... seems very expensive
- DinoRondelly



Seems okay to me
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Jun 24 @ 4:45 PM ET
He is asking 7 x7 ... seems very expensive
- DinoRondelly

Source? I heard 6x6.
DinoRondelly
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.03.2011

Jun 24 @ 4:46 PM ET
Source? I heard 6x6.
- Clyde334


John Shannon ‏@JSportsnet 4m4 minutes ago
Add name of Jimmy Howard to Flames' goalie chase.Hearing Bishop wants long term extension if traded to Calgary.Hearing 7x7 asking price.
DinoRondelly
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.03.2011

Jun 24 @ 4:47 PM ET
Seems okay to me
- bigbear89


I guess I wouldnt mind, Wideman will be off the books before it kicks in. I still think Fleury is the best option but not at the cost of the 6th overall. He would be a good stop gap if BT is sold on Gillies.
dr_soiledpants
Calgary Flames
Location: Watrous, SK
Joined: 08.15.2015

Jun 24 @ 4:47 PM ET
I like the idea of getting Brown, but agree not at 6. I read an article saying his dad didn't want him working out so it wouldn't stunt his growth (it worked!), so to be ranked fairly high is pretty darn good. I wonder where he'd be ranked if he had fitnessed it up as much as Dubois or Nylander.
- jexponent3


Heard that too, but size doesn't matter if you don't use it. Everything you hear about him is that he's big, but he doesn't play big.
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