AA for Kulikov swap?

Or

AA + Shaw for Kulikov and #33 pick?
- 93Joe

they wouldn't get an early 2nd round pick for shaws rights, they'd have to sign and trade I would think? Best you get for shaw's rights is like a 5th rounder, but even then i feel like it's too late to get anything because teams can just start talking to him tomorrow at 12:01 a.m. so why not just wait

AA for Kulikov swap?

Or

AA + Shaw for Kulikov and #33 pick?
- 93Joe

No way on that. AA is a big part of the top 6. Cannot move him without another top 6 forward coming back. With all the names floating in possible trades, I would put AA last in that list. He checks alot of boxes for this team.

No way on that. AA is a big part of the top 6. Cannot move him without another top 6 forward coming back. With all the names floating in possible trades, I would put AA last in that list. He checks alot of boxes for this team.
- z1990z

True. Just brainstorming and playing GM... Obviously not a very competent one

they wouldn't get an early 2nd round pick for shaws rights, they'd have to sign and trade I would think? Best you get for shaw's rights is like a 5th rounder, but even then i feel like it's too late to get anything because teams can just start talking to him tomorrow at 12:01 a.m. so why not just wait
- hawkss81

Shaw is a restricted free agent so his rights have more value than a 5th round pick.

Shaw is a restricted free agent so his rights have more value than a 5th round pick.
- DarthKane

good call, forget he was RFA not UFA

It's only 1 first, 1 second, 1 third up to $7.5MM - is he likely to get an offer sheet above that?
- StLBravesFan

Interesting comparison:

Rumbling: FLA preparing eight-year, $60M-ish extension for Aaron Ekblad. He can sign any time after July 1. Team and agent decline comment. Around $7.5m per year.

Actually I think that'd be a pretty good conversation starter. What about Crawford, Kruger and Shaw's rights for Backlund and your 35th and I don't know either your 54th, 56th, or 66th?

In any event I could see how this gets the conversation started.
- walleyeb1

Yeah I see pieces here that definitely could work between our teams. Again Backlund would be real hard to part with but I almost see as a way better compromise than some of the garbage asking price for Fleury & Bishop scares the bejesus out of me being a UFA next year & what the cap hit would be to keep him. I understand Yzerman not in any rush but at least he'll have a decent market next year for Bishop even as a rental.

No way on that. AA is a big part of the top 6. Cannot move him without another top 6 forward coming back. With all the names floating in possible trades, I would put AA last in that list. He checks alot of boxes for this team.
- z1990z

I hope the rest of the league believes this, then perhaps a trade involving him could really benefit the Hawks if that needs to happen.

Priceless....I bet TVR and Frankenstein are on call 24/7 for Q. Frankenstein stands guard at night to ensure Bowman doesn't sneak in the room and put the horse head in his bed.

Friedman just confirmed Hawks did their "Due diligence" on Malkin. So theres that..........
- SteveRain

Beautiful image, just beautiful.

To Pat Shart, only reason Panik was selected is his familiarity with Babs and Q. Because of his inability to set an alarm on his phone or hotel room, he will very likely be a long-term member of the concierge service.

I would say that proposition wouldn't quite get the Flames Crawford. But if I was desperate to clear that cap space I would certainly take a look at it as a starting point. Jooris is a guy who plays with heart and soul and some nastiness. He's exactly the kind of bottom 6 player every team wants. But Crawford is a 2-time SC Champion and the two picks would be hit-or-miss prospects at best.

I also LOVE Colborne. Do you know if the Flames are getting any closer to a deal with him? I heard the two sides were not seeing eye to eye the last time I looked into it.
- Hawks_49

Hearing Colborne wants 3.0-3.5 mill & wants term as well. Flames feel he just had his breakout in the 2nd half of last year & would prefer to give him another prove it in the 2.5mill range. He'll probably settle on a 3 year 3.0mill per year deal.

Not surprised.....but crap!

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#stars announce D Jordie Benn has signed a three-year extension.

Hearing Colborne wants 3.0-3.5 mill & wants term as well. Flames feel he just had his breakout in the 2nd half of last year & would prefer to give him another prove it in the 2.5mill range. He'll probably settle on a 3 year 3.0mill per year deal.
- Kevin R

In any event I can see why JJ's Calgary and Chicago are talking makes a lot of sense. They definitely have things they can kick around, we'll have see if the smoke can turn into fire.

John, excellent observation about Campbell. I posted here a couple weeks ago that Scotty Bowman has never been a fan of his free wheeling style. You will recall Bowman told me he runs around and the other 4 players on the ice stand around wondering where he is going. Bowman said Campbell does not play with structure.

Also, having worked in my particular industry for 26 years, I can tell you that there have been times I have inquired about going back to a previous employer. Most of the time reaction has been friendly but lukewarm. The best way I can describe it the tone is, we like you very much but you chose to move on and since then we have moved on with our plan. I say this because perhaps Stan's plan on defense was signing Kempny. And now Campbell makes waves by saying he wants to come back. There is a good chance that Stan politely declines.

Beautiful image, just beautiful.

To Pat Shart, only reason Panik was selected is his familiarity with Babs and Q. Because of his inability to set an alarm on his phone or hotel room, he will very likely be a long-term member of the concierge service.
- savvyone-1

I hear Versteeg keeps wanting to get back in.......

Of course Bollus would be the VP of concierge development given his vast background in this service. He may be the virgil to Talon when/if he goes to Vegas as GM>

In any event I can see why JJ's Calgary and Chicago are talking makes a lot of sense. They definitely have things they can kick around, we'll have see if the smoke can turn into fire.
- walleyeb1

If Crawford is included, then I would want the #6 pick back from Calgary.

Interesting comparison:

Rumbling: FLA preparing eight-year, $60M-ish extension for Aaron Ekblad. He can sign any time after July 1. Team and agent decline comment. Around $7.5m per year.
- walleyeb1

Also worth noting... its only 7.3 (lol "only) for the 1st/2nd/3.

Over 7.306M per is 2 1st/1 2nd/1 3rd. Vlad T got 7.5M in SLT.

If panarin goes over 75 points again, gotta think his agent will use Tarensenko as a comp and shoot for 7.5M. What teams can do 2 firsts/a second/a third and have 7.5 lying around.

Hawks need to get a 2 year bridge deal on Panarin at like 5.5. Likely wont happen, but it would be nice.

Not surprised.....but crap!

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#stars announce D Jordie Benn has signed a three-year extension.
- DarthKane

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Dallas Stars sign Jordie Benn to three-year deal worth $1.1 M aav per season

John, excellent observation about Campbell. I posted here a couple weeks ago that Scotty Bowman has never been a fan of his free wheeling style. You will recall Bowman told me he runs around and the other 4 players on the ice stand around wondering where he is going. Bowman said Campbell does not play with structure.

Also, having worked in my particular industry for 26 years, I can tell you that there have been times I have inquired about going back to a previous employer. Most of the time reaction has been friendly but lukewarm. The best way I can describe it the tone is, we like you very much but you chose to move on and since then we have moved on with our plan. I say this because perhaps Stan's plan on defense was signing Kempny. And now Campbell makes waves by saying he wants to come back. There is a good chance that Stan politely declines.
- Omahawk

Very well said but if Campbell says I will come back for 1 mil. You have to take him. I would rather have his free wheeling than Q play Gustafsson or Sved for 6 mins. That makes me wonder why they got Daley then. Very similar style.

Hawks have to take pieces that may not fit and make them work if they want to win.

Interesting-er and interesting-er:

Kruger's agent is JP Barry of CAA. His partner is . . . Pat Brisson.

Brisson is the agent of Shaw, Toews and Kane. Also John Tavares, Nathan MacKinnon, Jonathan Bernier, Matt Duchene, Claude Giroux, Carl Hagelin, Seth Jones, Kyle Okposo and Max Pacioretty

Barry is the agent of Malkin and Crosby, Jagr, Thornton, others.

Very powerful guys.
- John Jaeckel

Yes-- CAA is a huge multi platform agency--- and Brisson / JP Barry definitely hold a lot of cards--

IMO-- Bowman would NOT want to renege on any deals with agents like that--

I personally am a bit weary on dealing AA as well, barring a secondary move that brings in a similar big-body #2C... I could stand to see him improve at the dot for sure, but he checks a lot of boxes for the Hawks and frankly the way our immediate competition in the west has built their squads, center cannot be a position of weakness going forward or I fear more early round exits...

our immediate competition in the west to another cup and their top center options at first glance (no disrespect to any teams left out...):
-Colorado: Mackinnon, Duchene
-Dallas: Eakin, Spezza
-Blues: Steen, Statsny
-Kings: Kopitar, Carter
-Ducks: Getzlaf, Kesler
-Sharks: Couture, Thornton, Marleau
-Predators: Johanson, Fisher, Ribiero (if he shows up)

The point of the above is that center depth is becoming the new norm in the west, and size at that position... I think there are possible "addition by subtraction" options such as Crow being dealt and Darling stepping in (yes, crow is greater but I think we will be fine w/ Darling)... However, I think the days of "revolving door at 2C" are past and I don't know that we compete in the West without depth there...

I also remember some grumblings prior to Kanes new deal that he wanted to see some commitment to the 2C position before making any big decisions and he has been very quick to comment when they brought in Richards and AA... Just saying, I don't think it's coincidence that the best year of Kanes career also lined up w/ us finally having a real 2C.

Is AA unreadable? Nope... But Stan better have a replacement lined up who can do the things AA does (realistically will prolly be better at the dot)

Hypothetical:

Hawks send Krugs, Shaw, Crawford to Flames for Ferland and Backlund with 2nd round picks in 16 and 17.

Hawks send mcneill and a 2016 4th to oilers for Yakupov

Send a 5th round pick to LA for Lucic's rights and sign him 4 years at 5.85.

Send Anisomov to Arizona for Dvorak and a 2nd

Sign Campbell 1 year at 1.5

Sign Enroth 1 year at 1.6

Sign Schlemko 1 year at 750k

Leaves Hawks 1.88 under the cap.

Got bored on capfriendly with these. Would be a complete armageddon of moves

If Crawford is included, then I would want the #6 pick back from Calgary.
- hpk90

Buyers market. In my opinion if stan asks for that then the flames move on to another team trying to unload a big money goalie

Hearing Colborne wants 3.0-3.5 mill & wants term as well. Flames feel he just had his breakout in the 2nd half of last year & would prefer to give him another prove it in the 2.5mill range. He'll probably settle on a 3 year 3.0mill per year deal.
- Kevin R

That would be a nice contract to settle on for both sides. Not a lot of risk if Colborne continues to improve the way he has. He a big, strong guy and he has the skill to go with it.

Shaw is a restricted free agent so his rights have more value than a 5th round pick.
- DarthKane

Was Shaw QO'd yet?

Yes-- CAA is a huge multi platform agency--- and Brisson / JP Barry definitely hold a lot of cards--

IMO-- Bowman would NOT want to renege on any deals with agents like that--
- jb3333

On that same note, sports agents are professionals and they understand a team is a business. In the end, his client still gets 3m. Might even get a better chance to win again rather than being part of a problem that sticks a team in mediocrity due to cap problems.