No cap problem?? Even adding schmaltz, motte, kempny, lundberg, hartman and rasmussen, they are less than $2.3 mil over the cap.

There is room for a cheap d man but not Ladd. If StanBo wants to retain Ladd, he needs to move someone quick.
- KMFDMLight

Where did my post say add Ladd????????

and they are not carrying ALL those Rockford are they?

He go over and check this for typos & errors guys, i am spent!

It's enough I can't get my "boss" to fix the Dennis Cholowski was drafted by Detroit error....

http://www.draftsite.com/nhl/draft-history/2016/

So what you are saying is that you would rather have lesser quality players that make less money, just so you can be out of "cap hell".

To do what? Go out and spend more money to fill holes created by the departed players, which will put you right back into cap hell?

Holy moly! I have read some really dumbass posts over the course of my lifetime, but this one takes the cake.

Here is a little tip for you, Mr. Commenter: There is no magic way that 10.5 + 10.5 + 6.8 + 5.5 + 5.8 + 6.0 + 4.2 adds up to anything but roughly 50 million dollars. And for those figures, you get 7 stud NHL players.

The task for Stan then becomes how does he best round out the roster to complement those 7, with 16 other players for roughly 23 million dollars. Does it suck? Of course. The entire NHL salary cap system sucks. But don't sit there acting like there is some magic formula that you but not Stan Bowman is not aware of.

I guarantee you, the minute we trade CC for cap space that we can spend on another position player or two, the minute Darling fails as the number one goal tender, there will be 20 "experts" on here clamoring about how they never would have traded Crow, with the others who wanted Darling as the cheap alternative all going into internet hibernation.
- Katana777

Chill out dude. It's a blog and it's not a dumb comment. Reality check for you. This team isn't good enough to win a cup don't care how you fill in the rest of the roster there is less talent on it than last post season. No Shaw No Laad. Rest isn't going to cure this team and make them a cup contender. Guess what next year good luck signing Panarin with zero cap space again.

Glad I won dumbest post of the century by stating an obvious fact. Oh and if you are going to call my post dumb get your math right. There is a 3 mil carryover from last year. You also have several other players under contract that make a good chunk of money. So that's 7 mil for AA and Kruger and the 3 mil carryover. You're at 13 mil for 14 players. Good luck with that. The core as is proved it couldn't win last year. That's with Panarin being a top 10 scorer. Tinkering around the edges isn't the answer. If can't grasp that reality that isn't my problem. Attack me that's fine but it's simple salary cap math.

I do want to change my username to Mr. Commenter now!

Going to bed pissed. This team is going to miss Shaw.
- 6628

and me too.

Chill out dude. It's a blog and it's not a dumb comment. Reality check for you. This team isn't good enough to win a cup don't care how you fill in the rest of the roster there is less talent on it than last post season. No Shaw No Laad. Rest isn't going to cure this team and make them a cup contender. Guess what next year good luck signing Panarin with zero cap space again.

Sorry for the dose of reality. Did we watch different playoffs this year? Glad I won dumbest post of the century by stating an obvious fact. Middle of the pack playoff team enjoy.
- bhawks2241

Blame the league for this. All good things in this system are designed to come to an end.

Next stoppage is going to be a long one.

You know how I said after about picks in the early twenties the picks from then on into the third round all seemed to be all warts developmentals and close in value whether you slected laste in the first or in the start of the third round?

Well it looks like the strategy sheet a fan at the draft found documents Tampa Bay's draft table tells the story that they were more than willing to trade out of slot 27 and receive the Montreal picks the Hawks acquired of 39 & 45.

I love when one of the GMs actually used the lingo of having an extra spin of the wheel describing adding picks...

this is worth taking a gander at....

http://globalnews.ca/news...l-lobby-posts-to-twitter/
- wiz1901

Wow!! Incredible that the strategy sheet was found, and THEN made public. Someone in TB is in trouble.......

Wiz Man, any thoughts on the draft so far? Thoughts on CLB grabbing the Frenchy with 3 names over the Finn?

No poop

Tranny Myers is a shovelface
- hawkeytalkman

There is no way for me to tell you how bad of shape I'm in after reading this. My dog was running around the house thinking I was having a heart attack.

Man that is beyond funny.

At least Comcast is courteous enough to give us the hubble telescope view of her "insider" reports during game breaks
- hawkeytalkman

Then after I half way get myself together you zap me with this zinger........ Funny dude, very, very funny stuff.

Where did my post say add Ladd????????

and they are not carrying ALL those Rockford are they?
- wiz1901

Not inferring your post said anything about Ladd, but that seems to be the consensus move people seem to want the Hawks to make. They need another forward and D, I think we can all agree on that.

They will have to go with that many Rockford unless they sign Weise, Fleischmann or some other cheap UFAs.

Honestly? Keep on topic, guys. Tracey Myers and the way she looks to you is completely irrelevant to any logical discussion about this team.

She is a terrible reporter. Her looks don't need to be brought up. Man, I look like a dumpster fire.
- Hawks_49

Never a funnier thing ever said in the history of the internets though, 49. A little gutter 7th grade humor once in a while is good for the soul ....

Looks like we had a solid call on Elliott to CAL. They made the right move today, time will of course be the judge but they covered a lot of bases with options with just this one move.

I wonder if Stan will take a chance on Connor Bleackley with one of the 2nd round picks. He'll be further along in his development and could be a decent bottom 6 forward (one day).

Well, at least we won 3 Cups.....

SHAW

That sucks, one of my favorite players on the team.
Plays with an edge, doesn't back down nice compete level, hard cap sucks

Looks like we are going to be another year away just to many holes on this team

Probably in the lower percentile on here, but two 2nds for Shaw? Sign me up, especially if Shaw goes for over 3.5mil/year. He signs in MTL for 4+ then I will GLADLY take 2 2nd rounders for a basically bottom 6 guy. You dont get that often.

Now thats all said and done, next move for Stan I think is to try to package up AA or CC and get a player of value back that helps diminish the cap along with being a now player. How that happens who knows, but I am sure that Stan has something up his sleeve.

Also, the fact that Stan says that he is in good shape now with the cap means that Shaw wanted a high dollar and now can breathe a little with the ability to make some other moves that he can now put more focus on. Hopefully, they flourish.

Can you image the cap room we would have if you could take 10, 20, 25% off the cap hit for your home grown players? Somebody with a calculator and a mind for cypherin should figure that out.

GO HOCK SCOUTS! PICK A COUPLE WEINERS!

Trade Crawford and Kruger at full cap hit and Stan can add to the defense group, add a Top 6 LW for 4-5mil and then fill in with NHL Veteran UFA depth at $1mil each.

Ladd at 4years x $5mil
Matt Cullen, Brad Richards, Dominic Moore, Colton Scevior, or Chris Kelly at 1 yr x $1mil
Campbell at 1 year x $1.5mil
Chad Johnson @ 1mil x 1 yr

Ladd-Toews-Hossa
Panarin-Anisimov-Kane
Panik-Richards/Cullen-Schmaltz
Desi-Moose-Hartman

Keith-Seabs
Campbell-Hammer
Kempny-TVR

Darling
Chad Johnson

Anyone have any better ideas? Starting to think the Hawks are up poop creek....
- EnzoD

I think Enroth would be another option in net

Never a funnier thing ever said in the history of the internets though, 49. A little gutter 7th grade humor once in a while is good for the soul ....

Looks like we had a solid call on Elliott to CAL. They made the right move today, time will of course be the judge but they covered a lot of bases with options with just this one move.
- Mr Ricochet

Calgary certainly did make the right move. They saved themselves from having to include Backlund in a deal to minimize the cap hit of a higher paid goalie.

And you're right, that kind of humor is good once in awhile, I just felt bad for Tracey when I was inebriated lol

I think Enroth would be another option in net
- ikeane

Or Montoya, brother.

Well, I almost doubt The Hawks will be making all their 2nd round picks. If a roster player like AA or Freddy or CC is going to be moved for cap relief surley one of these 2nd rounders will be attached , no ?

Well, I almost doubt The Hawks will be making all their 2nd round picks. If a roster player like AA or Freddy or CC is going to be moved for cap relief surley one of these 2nd rounders will be attached , no ?
- mrpaulish

Its possible. I thought they would look to package a 2 and a 4 or something and move to the 29th or 30th. The only way i see kruger getting traded is if Stan feels he has a replacement as a shut down center that will sign cheap. With the free agency window cracking open at midnight its possible he may have had a conversation with someone. I almost see trading Crawford as a more viable option. Remember Scotty Bowman believes you dont need a marquis high priced goalie to win the Cup.

I do agree with JJ on the notion of how trading Kruger can damage the organizations reputation. Unfortunately it is a business.

Calgary certainly did make the right move. They saved themselves from having to include Backlund in a deal to minimize the cap hit of a higher paid goalie.

And you're right, that kind of humor is good once in awhile, I just felt bad for Tracey when I was inebriated lol
- Hawks_49

Agreed. As much as some of us want CC's contract gone, Calgary made the right move. If Elliott doesn't work out, they let him walk. No longer term commitment like CC, even if he waived to go there.

Its possible. I thought they would look to package a 2 and a 4 or something and move to the 29th or 30th. The only way i see kruger getting traded is if Stan feels he has a replacement as a shut down center that will sign cheap. With the free agency window cracking open at midnight its possible he may have had a conversation with someone. I almost see trading Crawford as a more viable option. Remember Scotty Bowman believes you dont need a marquis high priced goalie to win the Cup.

I do agree with JJ on the notion of how trading Kruger can damage the organizations reputation. Unfortunately it is a business.
- golfbard

Draft is in Chicago next year. Maybe they trade Crawford in a deal for a 2017 1st. Would seem they still have to clear some space for Panarin's impending raise. Don't think they want to roll the dice on that one. Also don't know how they can sign any free agents without dumping salary. More moves to come?

Its possible. I thought they would look to package a 2 and a 4 or something and move to the 29th or 30th. The only way i see kruger getting traded is if Stan feels he has a replacement as a shut down center that will sign cheap. With the free agency window cracking open at midnight its possible he may have had a conversation with someone. I almost see trading Crawford as a more viable option. Remember Scotty Bowman believes you dont need a marquis high priced goalie to win the Cup.

I do agree with JJ on the notion of how trading Kruger can damage the organizations reputation. Unfortunately it is a business.
- golfbard

The other reason moving CC's contract would have value (aside from the big one of cap space which is huge) is that teams can only protect one goalie in the expansion draft. That is why Elliott and Bishop are available - both teams want to get something for the asset, not give them away, and both teams have another very good option in goal and in the case of Bishop - a lower cost one - that they want to protect.

We'll see how the day unfolds...like Mr. P mentions don't see them hanging onto all those picks if they're going to have to add a sweetener to move a roster player...

meanwhile the genie is out of the bottle regarding Crawford as Al mentioned last night. He was already asked to waive and didn't. Agree a smart play by Calgary and they gave up a second for Elliot.

Still work to be done for this team to have a chance this season. We'll see what Stan does today.

The other reason moving CC's contract would have value (aside from the big one of cap space which is huge) is that teams can only protect one goalie in the expansion draft. That is why Elliott and Bishop are available - both teams have another very good option and in the case of Bishop - a lower cost one.
- Marlowe

Both you and walter above make good points. I do think Darling has the ability to be a number one goalie. The looming expansion draft is another valid point. Now is when he'll have some value versus waiting until next year when Stan could be desperate.

I still dont quite understand what Stan meant when he says we dont have a cap problem any more. Is it because their current roster is under contract and no RFA's?