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blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jun 24 @ 5:57 PM ET
What was your favorite moment of the Marty Turco era?
- DK002

When he was introduced to the crowd shortly before the 2010 banner went up.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 24 @ 5:58 PM ET
Michael Grosso ‏@RumorBreak
Per source, Crawford to Flames was close but Crawford did not waive NTC. #WOW

- 93Joe



You all realize rumor break is the equivalent of the Onion
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jun 24 @ 5:59 PM ET
Remember when Martin LaPointe was the Hawks big ticket free agent signing?
- golfbard

Remember when Tallon and the FO had to have a special meeting with the league FO wonks cuz they didn't know what kinda players to sign coming off the lost season?
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jun 24 @ 5:59 PM ET
When he was introduced to the crowd shortly before the 2010 banner went up.
- blackhawk24



This beauty!!!!

pri$ey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Proud "Hawktard", NB
Joined: 05.17.2008

Jun 24 @ 5:59 PM ET
What was your favorite moment of the Marty Turco era?
- DK002


The bet he made with a fan in Montreal while on the bench.

Or Fernando Pisani
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 24 @ 6:00 PM ET
Michael Grosso ‏@RumorBreak
Per source, Crawford to Flames was close but Crawford did not waive NTC. #WOW

- 93Joe


If that was the case those stories come out....They don't stay under wraps.
If there is more smoke from numerous sources than I would think Crawford could be gone...Otherwise I wouldn't bank on it.

No need to mess with the psyche of any player especially a goaltender unless you must trade him.
Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jun 24 @ 6:00 PM ET
LMAOOOOO



- hawkeytalkman


Gacy kind of looks like Kelly Chase....
matt_ahrens
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Carlos, CA
Joined: 06.30.2014

Jun 24 @ 6:00 PM ET
That I don't know, but it sounded to me, definitely, it was a case of Crawford not wanting to be THERE
- John Jaeckel


Any ideas on where he'd be willing to go? Buffalo? NYI? Anywhere else that needs a G?
hawkeytalkman
Joined: 01.11.2016

Jun 24 @ 6:00 PM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 28s28 seconds ago
EDM staff consulting with GM Peter Chiarelli at table. Something significant is being contemplated.

Michael Grosso ‏@RumorBreak 27s28 seconds ago
EDM has a deal in place per source. Waiting to find out what.
Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jun 24 @ 6:00 PM ET
This beauty!!!!


- bhawks2241


That's a really different version of opening the Roman Polak door
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 24 @ 6:01 PM ET
I'm watching DAL closely. I think Nill will give up a solid sweetener to get rid of Lethomen or Nieme. He's gotta think he's close now, the cap will be a problem in 2017/18 (Benn and Sharp UFA's) and he can't think of getting another goalie this year until he moves one of his problem goalies first.
- Mr Ricochet


They are choking on those two...
hawkeytalkman
Joined: 01.11.2016

Jun 24 @ 6:02 PM ET
Michael Grosso ‏@RumorBreak 1m1 minute ago
Hearing it involves RNH. Last time I checked, EDM was high on Dumba/Brodin.
dstainer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 24 @ 6:02 PM ET
He should know he won't be winning in Chicago. That kind of stuff is a bit hypocritical. Winners want to win then take less money to win in a hard cap era.

If that Calagary stuff is true. Bowman is franked.

He really painted himself into a corner and now the ceiling above that corner is caving in and flood waters are quickly seeping in from below.

- bhawks2241


Well then look no further than 19/88. Could've easily taken 9-9.5/yr they didn't. Yet I'm sure everyone here views them as winners. Every other contract (with exception of Hammers that's a hometown discount right there), could've been signed for 500-750k less.

As fans, myself included, forget this is their livelihood. They have a limited earning window. While we all want them to take less money to stay, it's just not the reality.
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Jun 24 @ 6:02 PM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 28s28 seconds ago
EDM staff consulting with GM Peter Chiarelli at table. Something significant is being contemplated.

Michael Grosso ‏@RumorBreak 27s28 seconds ago
EDM has a deal in place per source. Waiting to find out what.

- hawkeytalkman



With the Hawks? Maybe? Hopefully?
hawkeytalkman
Joined: 01.11.2016

Jun 24 @ 6:03 PM ET
With the Hawks? Maybe? Hopefully?
- z1990z


Sounds like MIN maybe
darklighter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.11.2015

Jun 24 @ 6:03 PM ET
This beauty!!!!


- bhawks2241


Hah, I was just about to post this. I'm pretty sure I was at this game.
hawkeytalkman
Joined: 01.11.2016

Jun 24 @ 6:03 PM ET
Damien Cox ‏@DamoSpin 21s22 seconds ago
Calgary doesn't want to leave BUFF without a goalie. Flames fortunate this is a year where teams have expansion draft complications.

Crawford!

Oh, wait...
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jun 24 @ 6:04 PM ET
Very high IMO. Girlfriend and her family from Chicago, fan appreciation, good team to play on, good team to play for, soft as white bread media.
- Return of the Roar

Good points !!

AGAIN, another LESSON for STANLEY.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jun 24 @ 6:05 PM ET
Any ideas on where he'd be willing to go? Buffalo? NYI? Anywhere else that needs a G?
- matt_ahrens


1) the nature of a conversation with a player and his agent re: waiving is not always the same—nor always publicized.
2) sometimes when a player is asked to waive it gets publicized. Sometimes it doesn't. Fact.
3) My (admittedly sort of vague) understanding going back to LAST summer is that Crawford has known he might be a cap casualty last summer or this summer and that he would work with the Hawks on it—if it became necessary,

FWIW
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Jun 24 @ 6:05 PM ET
Michael Grosso ‏@RumorBreak 1m1 minute ago
Hearing it involves RNH. Last time I checked, EDM was high on Dumba/Brodin.

- hawkeytalkman


Some guy on NHL-N said he was thinking Hopkins for Dumba as the main pieces of the package.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 24 @ 6:05 PM ET
Well, they supposedly had a deal done with TB for Bishop 2-3 days ago that I think mckenzie was all over. Aaaaaand?

I will also reiterate what I said the other day too. He (typically) doesn't have his finger "on the pulse" of the Blackhawks.

I don't know that the Hawks will do a deal w Calgary for CC. But ask yourself, all else being equal (and mostly the money is), if you could choose one?

Crawford
Elliott
Bishop
Fleury

I think at least 50% of the time, people will answer Crawford. Hockey people maybe more so.

- John Jaeckel


Tough to figure how CAL will go. They have what seems to be a stud in Jon Gilles who was total lights out for 3 years at Providence and had a cup of coffee in the AHL at the end of last season.

Crawford is inked for through 2019/20.
Fluery inked through 2018/19.
Elliot and Bishop are UFA's after next year.

I don't think CAL wants a 1 yr rental but do they want a #1 inked for 3-4 years with a probable future #1 playing in the AHL?

Tough call.........
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jun 24 @ 6:05 PM ET
Well then look no further than 19/88. Could've easily taken 9-9.5/yr they didn't. Yet I'm sure everyone here views them as winners. Every other contract (with exception of Hammers that's a hometown discount right there), could've been signed for 500-750k less.

As fans, myself included, forget this is their livelihood. They have a limited earning window. While we all want them to take less money to stay, it's just not the reality.

- dstainer



BUT it is a double edge sword. Complain about not having a certain type of player on your team. Complain about not having continuity and having too many guys on and off your line (cough Toews). Allegedly refuse to waive a NTC b/c you want to win. These guys do this crap but still want to max out their contracts.

Cant have your cake and eat it too. Toews wants to complain about poopty linemates he and a few teamates need to look in the mirror for the reason why.

Max out your value. Take a big contract but when your team is middling because they are up against the cap don't complain. Don't give the line all I want to do is win championships. It is a load of crap. They want to get paid. Winning is always secondary with the exception of a very rare few like #4.
darklighter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.11.2015

Jun 24 @ 6:06 PM ET
My (admittedly sort of vague) understanding going back to LAST summer is that Crawford has known he might be a cap casualty last summer or this summer and that he would work with the Hawks on it—if it became necessary
- John Jaeckel


TAKE BETTER NOTES.







...kidding.
93Joe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.09.2015

Jun 24 @ 6:07 PM ET
If the Hawks cannot get into the first round, I hope they can garner a couple more picks in the 2nd.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 24 @ 6:08 PM ET
1) the nature of a conversation with a player and his agent re: waiving is not always the same—nor always publicized.
2) sometimes when a player is asked to waive it gets publicized. Sometimes it doesn't. Fact.
3) My (admittedly sort of vague) understanding going back to LAST summer is that Crawford has known he might be a cap casualty last summer or this summer and that he would work with the Hawks on it—if it became necessary,

FWIW

- John Jaeckel


If they are serious they don't ask once and it gets done...usually it gets out, agents talk to protect their players. If the Calgary story is true that's only part of the plan and they wouldn't have asked unless they want Crawford gone.

When Campbell was dealt the only feasible target was Florida...But first story that broke or was planted...Was Campbell to Columbus. I'm sure Florida looked like a much better option to Campbell afterwards.
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