z1990z
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Location: NW USA Joined: 02.09.2012
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Michael Grosso @RumorBreak
Per source, Crawford to Flames was close but Crawford did not waive NTC. #WOW - 93Joe
There you go. Stan tried. Keep trying Stanley! |
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vabeachbear
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Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC Joined: 10.17.2011
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Scott Powers @ByScottPowers 11s12 seconds ago
Source says there's been no progress on Blackhawks' negotiations with Andrew Shaw prior to draft. We'll see what unfolds in next few hours
I cant see Bowman holding on to shaw throughout the draft if they are that far off - hawkeytalkman
Why?
Qualify him at 2.5 on Monday, wouldn't that put the Hawks in a better position? I mean if you can trade him for #1 today, go ahead, anything but that I think I would just qualify him. |
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Source ended note with: "could be a long night." Not sure exactly what that means.
Started note with "Calgary OUT on Crawford" Which might suggest, as this source has maintained all along, that there are/were more than one teams IN.
I would still watch Buffalo and a couple of Eastern teams.
Bottom line I would not breathe easy because if the money forces it and Bowman
doesn't make some other move(s) they might end up having to basically give him away to someone. - John Jaeckel
From the outside looking in, the problem I see with Bowman making trades is that his focus is more on individual trades than the overall big picture. In other words he may have to lose a trade to achieve the big picture objective but he seems incapable of understanding that and executing trades accordingly. If the math is such that CC needs to be traded in order to extend Panarin, then giving CC away for nothing would be the better big picture move to make rather than trying to get more for CC and not free enough cap space to extend Panarin ... or kicking the can down the road on Panarin's extension and risk having to give Panarin a bigger AAV or possibly lose him to an offer sheet.
1. Priority#1.
2. Execute.
3. Priority#2.
4. Execute.
And so on ...
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Marlowe
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Location: Wild Wild West, IL Joined: 06.29.2014
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Why?
Qualify him at 2.5 on Monday, wouldn't that put the Hawks in a better position? I mean if you can trade him for #1 today, go ahead, anything but that I think I would just qualify him. - vabeachbear
He's arbitration eligible. |
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JRoenick97
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Location: Spokane, WA Joined: 07.20.2012
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Why?
Qualify him at 2.5 on Monday, wouldn't that put the Hawks in a better position? I mean if you can trade him for #1 today, go ahead, anything but that I think I would just qualify him. - vabeachbear
Arbitration eligible. Could end up with nothing. |
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93Joe
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 06.09.2015
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There you go. Stan tried. Keep trying Stanley! - z1990z
Gotta give him credit Z. Think Crawford will only go to a contender. Can't really blame him either... |
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blackhawk24
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Location: Lake in the Hills, IL Joined: 06.06.2009
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Source ended note with: "could be a long night." Not sure exactly what that means.
Started note with "Calgary OUT on Crawford" Which might suggest, as this source has maintained all along, that there are/were more than one teams IN.
I would still watch Buffalo and a couple of Eastern teams.
Bottom line I would not breathe easy because if the money forces it and Bowman
doesn't make some other move(s) they might end up having to basically give him away to someone. - John Jaeckel
This is where he had better learned his Sharpie lesson....
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vabeachbear
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Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC Joined: 10.17.2011
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Arbitration eligible. Could end up with nothing. - JRoenick97
Missed that part of it. Ya I guess you'd have to know what the most he could get rewarded. |
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Jason Millen
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Location: Saint Louis, MO Joined: 01.28.2016
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Michael Grosso @RumorBreak
Per source, Crawford to Flames was close but Crawford did not waive NTC. #WOW - 93Joe
Wonder if it was for Bennett+ like I joked |
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RickJ
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Location: Burlington, ON Joined: 01.12.2010
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He has played both wings, but I haven't watched him enough to say if he's better on one side or the other. You'd have to think he might be willing to take a 1-year deal on the cheap if the Wild owe him $4.33M over the next two years not to play for them. - MartiniMan
John Tavares made Vanek into a decent LW for awhile.
In addition to being hugely lazy, Vanek is a moped running in the Indy 500. There is no salary cheap enough to interest the Hawks in this dog. |
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John Jaeckel
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Location: www.the-rink.com Joined: 11.19.2006
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Or Calgary doesn't like what Stan is offering/asking? - blackhawk24
That I don't know, but it sounded to me, definitely, it was a case of Crawford not wanting to be THERE |
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Jason Millen
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Location: Saint Louis, MO Joined: 01.28.2016
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7 years/$7M? Doesn't Calgary have contract extensions coming up for Gudreau and Monahan? The Crawford contract makes things minimally more easier... - 93Joe
Elliott contract makes it even easier...just sayin' |
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John Tavares made Vanek into a decent LW for awhile.
In addition to being hugely lazy, Vanek is a moped running in the Indy 500. There is no salary cheap enough to interest the Hawks in this dog. - RickJ
Speaking of...
Remember when we signed Brunette to be the LW on the top line?
Good times |
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Jason Millen
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Location: Saint Louis, MO Joined: 01.28.2016
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That I don't know, but it sounded to me, definitely, it was a case of Crawford not wanting to be THERE - John Jaeckel
any idea on what would have been coming back? |
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Grosso reporting craw to flames was close but CC wouldnt waive ntc - ikeane
Trading CC just got a little harder than it already was..... Other GMs know Stan is a little more desparate now , so offers will be lower... If CC did refuse to waive .... it will be a little awkward with him on the team going forward... |
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John Jaeckel
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Location: www.the-rink.com Joined: 11.19.2006
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Did we get Malkin yet? - SimpleJack
Who?
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John Jaeckel
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Location: www.the-rink.com Joined: 11.19.2006
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any idea on what would have been coming back? - Jason Millen
I heard some things but that was 24 hours ago when allegedly they just started talking, pretty sure Shaw was included with players and picks coming back |
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Jason Millen
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Location: Saint Louis, MO Joined: 01.28.2016
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Big wins matter most and Crawford is way ahead.
If he was better than Crawford he would be a fixture in TB. - Al
Cap situation with guys like Kucherov coming up and having Vasi make it a luxury to be able to deal Bishop....imho |
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John Jaeckel
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Location: www.the-rink.com Joined: 11.19.2006
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Speaking of...
Remember when we signed Brunette to be the LW on the top line?
Good times - hawkeytalkman
Ugh |
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walleyeb1
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Location: Petersburg, IL Joined: 09.25.2014
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Why?
Qualify him at 2.5 on Monday, wouldn't that put the Hawks in a better position? I mean if you can trade him for #1 today, go ahead, anything but that I think I would just qualify him. - vabeachbear
Exactly
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PatShart
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Location: Vegas, NV Joined: 06.25.2015
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Elliott contract makes it even easier...just sayin' - Jason Millen
But Elliot NOT playing in John Wayne Gacy's boring defensive system....was not very good |
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PatShart
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Location: Vegas, NV Joined: 06.25.2015
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Trading CC just got a little harder than it already was..... Other GMs know Stan is a little more desparate now , so offers will be lower... If CC did refuse to waive .... it will be a little awkward with him on the team going forward... - bhawk1s
OR....other teams may now see he has been made available for the right price (NYI, BUFF....)
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blackhawk24
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Location: Lake in the Hills, IL Joined: 06.06.2009
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Michael Grosso @RumorBreak
Per source, Crawford to Flames was close but Crawford did not waive NTC. #WOW - 93Joe
STAN! This is ANOTHER learning exercise. Did YOU pay attention?! |
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RickJ
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Location: Burlington, ON Joined: 01.12.2010
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That I don't know, but it sounded to me, definitely, it was a case of Crawford not wanting to be THERE - John Jaeckel
Can't blame him. He looked at a photo of Brian Burke and said Nyet! |
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93Joe
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 06.09.2015
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