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JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Jun 24 @ 5:17 PM ET
True that... the price for drafting 30th for several years.
Draft starts in two hours, but ours starts tomorrow.

- RedFeather

UFA talks tomorrow too. Need to get something done if Ladd is going to talk to others.
93Joe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.09.2015

Jun 24 @ 5:19 PM ET
To add to that:

John Shannon ‏@JSportsnet 49s50 seconds ago
Add name of Jimmy Howard to Flames' goalie chase.Hearing Bishop wants long term extension if traded to Calgary.Hearing 7x7 asking price.


Bishop at 7 years for $7M per, or Crawford for 4 years at $6M per.

I know who I'm choosing.

- Hawksfan37

7 years/$7M? Doesn't Calgary have contract extensions coming up for Gudreau and Monahan? The Crawford contract makes things minimally more easier...
RedFeather
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: alsip, IL
Joined: 02.03.2016

Jun 24 @ 5:19 PM ET
True but Skille was a top 10 pick and McNeill I think was 18th.
- Al


Did not remember Skille was that high, thanks, Al.
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Jun 24 @ 5:20 PM ET
Agreed but using that logic than so would Bishop would it not?

Nothing below says Bishop is "superior". For the record.

12-13 - CC .926 and 1.94/Bishop .920 and 2.67

13-14 - CC .917 and 2.26/Bishop .924 and 2.23

14-15 - CC .924 and 2.27/Bishop .916 and 2.32

15-16 - CC .924 and 2.37/Bishop .926 and 2.06

- Blackwater13


Nevermind the craplantic division
hawkeytalkman
Joined: 01.11.2016

Jun 24 @ 5:21 PM ET
Lots of folks on Twitter have GMs from CAL and Cbus talking - multiple conversations on the floor.

One example - McKenzie verified Twitter acct:
CGY GM Brad Treliving and CBJ GM Jarmo Kekalainen deep in yet another conversation just off the draft floor.

- Marlowe


JK: "Hey Brad, how do you deal with the harsh winters up in Canada?"

BT: "Gold bond lotion, Jarmo. Works great"

JK: "Thanks. I'll have to try it out. Great seeing you."

BT: "You too. By the way, you still have the best name for a Bond villain"

JK: "Oh Brad, you silly goose!"
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jun 24 @ 5:21 PM ET
7 years/$7M? Doesn't Calgary have contract extensions coming up for Gudreau and Monahan? The Crawford contract makes things minimally more easier...
- 93Joe


Hearing just now Crawford OUT of Calgary discussion. Maybe some back story there as in he was asked if he'd go there and didn't want to—not confirmed.
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Jun 24 @ 5:22 PM ET
Hearing just now Crawford OUT of Calgary discussion. Maybe some back story there as in he was asked if he'd go there and didn't want to—not confirmed.
- John Jaeckel





The possible landing spots for CC are vanishing quickly..
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jun 24 @ 5:23 PM ET
Hearing just now Crawford OUT of Calgary discussion. Maybe some back story there as in he was asked if he'd go there and didn't want to—not confirmed.
- John Jaeckel

Perfectly okay with me.

Outside of #6, not much on that team to offer talent-wise that would entice the 'Hawks.

Guys like Gaudreau, Monahan, Bennett, etc... are certainly not on the table.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jun 24 @ 5:23 PM ET
As of right now (with all of the Brexit stuff, sagging oil prices, loonie weakness against the dollar) best course of action is to assume the cap will stay or even drop the next few seasons.
- dstainer

BrExit by itself won't be a long term issue. Now if France, The Netherlands and a few others want their own vote and get the exit, that's a different story. Oil and the markets totally overreacted cuz they don't see certainty staring them in the face. Most of today's drop was already built in. I am more concerned if oil slips back, and by that I mean sub-$30 again, it could have a huge Cdn Dollar impact, negatively. And so too, the cap.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 24 @ 5:23 PM ET
True that... the price for drafting 30th for several years.
Draft starts in two hours, but ours starts tomorrow.

- RedFeather


You never know come on Stan make a trade!
93Joe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.09.2015

Jun 24 @ 5:24 PM ET
Hearing just now Crawford OUT of Calgary discussion. Maybe some back story there as in he was asked if he'd go there and didn't want to—not confirmed.
- John Jaeckel

Thanks JJ. Figured something like that would happen. Guess Bowman has to keep looking. Maybe the market for Shaw, Kruger, AA is a bit more up and buzzing?
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 24 @ 5:24 PM ET
Hearing just now Crawford OUT of Calgary discussion. Maybe some back story there as in he was asked if he'd go there and didn't want to—not confirmed.
- John Jaeckel

Now on to the sabres....
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jun 24 @ 5:24 PM ET
Got to figure the following are on the block, in order:

1. Shaw
2. Kruger
3. Crawford
4. Anisimov
5. Seabrook

Personally, I don't think parting with Shaw and Kruger is enough to fix these woes.

- Bjm84

Your last sentence is it. With that I am sad to say, I feel your numbers 3 and 5 may end up being 1/1A.
Sundevil
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 04.24.2012

Jun 24 @ 5:25 PM ET
Hearing just now Crawford OUT of Calgary discussion. Maybe some back story there as in he was asked if he'd go there and didn't want to—not confirmed.
- John Jaeckel


we have a trade to announce, EDM trades the 4th pick to Chicago for Brent Seabrook...
hawkeytalkman
Joined: 01.11.2016

Jun 24 @ 5:25 PM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 9m9 minutes ago
CGY staff and CBJ staff meeting separately. Tables are side by side

I would say 100% chance that Calgary walks away with a new goalie by the time the draft is over
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 24 @ 5:25 PM ET
Hearing just now Crawford OUT of Calgary discussion. Maybe some back story there as in he was asked if he'd go there and didn't want to—not confirmed.
- John Jaeckel


Were you tipped on that or are you just speculating?

Doesn't bother me, just that if you are speculating, you probably just set off 6 months of talk about Crawford Screwing Stan conversations........................
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 24 @ 5:25 PM ET
Hearing just now Crawford OUT of Calgary discussion. Maybe some back story there as in he was asked if he'd go there and didn't want to—not confirmed.
- John Jaeckel

If the flames and jackets are talking. Maybe Shaw and crawford to columbus?
DK002
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.12.2012

Jun 24 @ 5:26 PM ET
You never know come on Stan make a trade!
- walleyeb1


I would expect Stan to announce a Rundblad extension any time now...

hawkeytalkman
Joined: 01.11.2016

Jun 24 @ 5:26 PM ET
Were you tipped on that or are you just speculating?

Doesn't bother me, just that if you are speculating, you probably just set off 6 months of talk about Crawford Screwing Stan conversations........................

- vabeachbear


He was given just the tip
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Jun 24 @ 5:26 PM ET
If the flames and jackets are talking. Maybe Shaw and crawford to columbus?
- ikeane



For Brandon Saad..
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jun 24 @ 5:27 PM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 9m9 minutes ago
CGY staff and CBJ staff meeting separately. Tables are side by side

I would say 100% chance that Calgary walks away with a new goalie by the time the draft is over

- hawkeytalkman


Grosso @rumorbreak
This is crazy, Flames are legit talking to every team regarding a goaltender. When I say they have interest in every goalie, i mean it.
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Jun 24 @ 5:27 PM ET
we have a trade to announce, EDM trades the 4th pick to Chicago for Brent Seabrook...
- Sundevil



Might as well start a whole firesale if that's the case because that would spell disaster for the Hawks blueline
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 24 @ 5:27 PM ET
BrExit by itself won't be a long term issue. Now if France, The Netherlands and a few others want their own vote and get the exit, that's a different story. Oil and the markets totally overreacted cuz they don't see certainty staring them in the face. Most of today's drop was already built in. I am more concerned if oil slips back, and by that I mean sub-$30 again, it could have a huge Cdn Dollar impact, negatively. And so too, the cap.
- blackhawk24


Agree, over reacted because they listened to the polls and gambled yesterday, and paid dearly for it today.

Buy some stock this weekend, Monday at 4 eastern, you'll probably have made a nice chunk of change.
bhawk1s
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 24 @ 5:28 PM ET
Hearing just now Crawford OUT of Calgary discussion. Maybe some back story there as in he was asked if he'd go there and didn't want to—not confirmed.
- John Jaeckel


Lets hope it did not get that far, nothing worse than a goalie with a tude !
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jun 24 @ 5:28 PM ET
Thanks JJ. Figured something like that would happen. Guess Bowman has to keep looking. Maybe the market for Shaw, Kruger, AA is a bit more up and buzzing?
- 93Joe



Source ended note with: "could be a long night." Not sure exactly what that means.

Started note with "Calgary OUT on Crawford" Which might suggest, as this source has maintained all along, that there are/were more than one teams IN.

I would still watch Buffalo and a couple of Eastern teams.

Bottom line I would not breathe easy because if the money forces it and Bowman
doesn't make some other move(s) they might end up having to basically give him away to someone.

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