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DK002
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.12.2012

Jun 24 @ 3:38 PM ET
The Hawks aren't dumb, they know 95% of the fanbase knows Shaw at $4.5 million is untenable.

So a "team source" tells Mark Lazerus that's what Shaw wants.

Hmmmm . . .

Got a feeling Mr. Shaw is in another sweater by midnight.

- John Jaeckel


Yup sad to say...Shaw is gone. Happy for him to get paid especially with his injury history. As several have said he needs to take the money now. He's earned it no question.

Also as several have said the key should be to lock up Panarin - the sooner the better or you've got another Saad disaster on your hands Stanley.

Nice to see the local beat guys and gays (I mean the Hawks PR machine) crank up on call from McD and company...

Also great to see Dollar Bill's cap frankin' what Rocky has finally built. Bettman will be thrilled with those finals ratings again this coming season...
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jun 24 @ 3:38 PM ET
Prediction:

Shaw will be packaged along with another more popular player. They are making Shaw persona non grata in order to make the other part of the medicine go down a little easier.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:40 PM ET
this is the inherent problem. It all depend on how much we weigh in what kruger does.
- the_dough_boy


Exactly....not what he could do IF he ever lived up to the offensive upside many allude to, but what he has done in his career.......that's all I am saying.

Remember, in 2013 the Hawks gave David Bolland a shot at 2c and that blew up in their face, they traded for cement shoes, Handzus, and then sent Bolland packing.

Lets hope Kruger can find the twine for the first time since June of 2015.
Bjm84
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 03.29.2013

Jun 24 @ 3:41 PM ET
Prediction:

Shaw will be packaged along with another more popular player. They are making Shaw persona non grata in order to make the other part of the medicine go down a little easier.

- John Jaeckel


To where?

My guess is Shaw + Crawford or Shaw + Kruger.

Hard to imagine the ladder though as all of a sudden the Hawks are thin at the pivot
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Jun 24 @ 3:42 PM ET
Prediction:

Shaw will be packaged along with another more popular player. They are making Shaw persona non grata in order to make the other part of the medicine go down a little easier.

- John Jaeckel


Nope. One last shot to devalue him on the open market by disclosing his terms as unreasonable and any other team picking him up risks that they won't be able to agree on a salary.
hawkss81
Joined: 01.26.2013

Jun 24 @ 3:42 PM ET
Prediction:

Shaw will be packaged along with another more popular player. They are making Shaw persona non grata in order to make the other part of the medicine go down a little easier.

- John Jaeckel


Is the other more popular player offense or defense?
the_dough_boy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.01.2012

Jun 24 @ 3:43 PM ET
WHA'?! At least Kruger can get up and down the ice.
- John Jaeckel


6 points in 63 games

Vs.

4 points in 41 games
MartiniMan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Joined: 10.01.2006

Jun 24 @ 3:43 PM ET
WHA'?! At least Kruger can get up and down the ice.
- John Jaeckel


Yeah, that sounded silly to me too.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 24 @ 3:44 PM ET
Prediction:

Shaw will be packaged along with another more popular player. They are making Shaw persona non grata in order to make the other part of the medicine go down a little easier.

- John Jaeckel


Shaw and CC.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 24 @ 3:44 PM ET
you excited about the new star wars bathom spy movie?

I need a distraction.

- SteveRain


Yes, especially since Vader will be in it.
the_dough_boy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.01.2012

Jun 24 @ 3:44 PM ET
Exactly....not what he could do IF he ever lived up to the offensive upside many allude to, but what he has done in his career.......that's all I am saying.

Remember, in 2013 the Hawks gave David Bolland a shot at 2c and that blew up in their face, they traded for cement shoes, Handzus, and then sent Bolland packing.

Lets hope Kruger can find the twine for the first time since June of 2015.

- SteveRain


If he can reach his past performances in points, I think his contract is a win.

11/12 71GP 9G 26P
12/13 47GP 4 G 13 P (lockout)
13/14 81GP 8G 28P
14/15 7G 17P
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 24 @ 3:44 PM ET
Shaw and CC.
- vabeachbear



Shaw and Kane.....for Miller.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 24 @ 3:46 PM ET
To where?

My guess is Shaw + Crawford or Shaw + Kruger.

Hard to imagine the ladder though as all of a sudden the Hawks are thin at the pivot

- Bjm84


Who have we been talking with?
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 24 @ 3:46 PM ET
Mark Lazerus ‏@MarkLazerus 9m9 minutes ago
One former player/exec: "Nick Schmaltz is fine. But he's no Teravainen. Not even close."

Edit: Clearly he's quoting Ron Francis.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:47 PM ET
Shaw and Kane.....for Miller.
- DarthKane


Damn you darth........

Just dawned on me....as much as I despised Bolland, that's much I love me some Andrew Shaw....feel like I'm contradicting myself a bit.....
Lido_Shuffle
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.10.2012

Jun 24 @ 3:47 PM ET
Prediction:

Shaw will be packaged along with another more popular player. They are making Shaw persona non grata in order to make the other part of the medicine go down a little easier.

- John Jaeckel



Shaw and McNeill for ?????
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 24 @ 3:48 PM ET
The Hawks aren't dumb, they know 95% of the fanbase knows Shaw at $4.5 million is untenable.

So a "team source" tells Mark Lazerus that's what Shaw wants.

Hmmmm . . .

Got a feeling Mr. Shaw is in another sweater by midnight.

- John Jaeckel


I just Tweeted this...
@MarkLazerus Chatter in summer of 2010 was Antti Niemi was looking for
$4.5-$5 mill per....That one missed the mark by about 60%.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 24 @ 3:49 PM ET
Prediction:

Shaw will be packaged along with another more popular player. They are making Shaw persona non grata in order to make the other part of the medicine go down a little easier.

- John Jaeckel



Heard yesterday Shaw is eligible for arbitration by even so the award isn't going to
$4 mill....
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:49 PM ET
If he can reach his past performances in points, I think his contract is a win.

11/12 71GP 9G 26P
12/13 47GP 4 G 13 P (lockout)
13/14 81GP 8G 28P
14/15 7G 17P

- the_dough_boy


For the sake of the hawks....I hope so.

I just have strong doubts he will....I just dont' see it in his game.

Now I'll go on to get grilled by the KOOGA folks.........Don't get me wrong, I like his play for what he is, just feel his deal sucks. Not team friendly. At all.
onehundredlevel
Joined: 10.27.2015

Jun 24 @ 3:50 PM ET
Mark Lazerus ‏@MarkLazerus 9m9 minutes ago
One former player/exec: "Nick Schmaltz is fine. But he's no Teravainen. Not even close."

- DarthKane


I wonder if the Hawks ever thought of packaging Shaw's rights, instead of TT, in the Bickell deal? Hard to say now, after the fact, but I wonder if that ever came up.

SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:50 PM ET
Heard yesterday Shaw is eligible for arbitration by even so the award isn't going to
$4 mill....

- Al


I think 3.5 to 3.75 is fair. Based on comparables.
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Jun 24 @ 3:51 PM ET
Heard yesterday Shaw is eligible for arbitration by even so the award isn't going to
$4 mill....

- Al


He gone.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jun 24 @ 3:51 PM ET
Mark Lazerus ‏@MarkLazerus 9m9 minutes ago
One former player/exec: "Nick Schmaltz is fine. But he's no Teravainen. Not even close."

- DarthKane


In terms of what? That could be a good thing. He may be willing to take contact, go to the net, take a shot from the slot, etc...

It all depends on how he acclimated to the system.
Murph76
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 12.07.2011

Jun 24 @ 3:52 PM ET
Mark Lazerus ‏@MarkLazerus 9m9 minutes ago
One former player/exec: "Nick Schmaltz is fine. But he's no Teravainen. Not even close."

Edit: Clearly he's quoting Ron Francis.

- DarthKane


Good! Maybe he can take a hit and stay on his feet or better yet doesn't skate away from the play just to avoid being checked like a little female dog. Teravinen should try out for Disney on Ice, it suits his demeanor much more than US pro hockey.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 24 @ 3:53 PM ET
Prediction:

Shaw will be packaged along with another more popular player. They are making Shaw persona non grata in order to make the other part of the medicine go down a little easier.

- John Jaeckel


Jeez - who's more popular than Shaw?
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