I think the Canucks need to be watched. They are quietly putting together a solid club. Already have two competent goalies, added help on the blueline with Gudbranson and are now targeting Lucic and Eriksson (possibly both).

It is almost purely ridiculous. The guy would slot as a top 2-3 on any team. Sure, we might get stuck with a bad contract in 3-4 years, but these are the years that the window is open. He is needed for a cup run.

Additionally, he played with Gustafsson and Svedberg (who both have potential) all season long. TVR had to play on his off side, and that is another detrimental set back.
- 93Joe

you know what's hilarious? The @ss clowns over at CI who rip seabrook are the same idiots who defended Keith for his new skate excuse in 2010 when his play slipped late in the year. Or gave him numerous excuses for arotating partner over the years.

It's old.....or the numerous back door taps ins that occur on his watch.

Should we continue? Those who throw rocks at 7, need to look at 2 just as much because he takes some MORONIC penalties that cost them games. (see game 4 vs STL) and has his ups/downs.

Mark Lazerus @MarkLazerus

Source says Andrew Shaw is asking for at least $4.5 million AAV. Moving him might be more realistic than moving Kruger. FLA a possibility.


assuming that source is the FO, then it's bye-bye time for 65
- jt19

Unpayable with current cap situation.

Mark Lazerus @MarkLazerus

Source says Andrew Shaw is asking for at least $4.5 million AAV. Moving him might be more realistic than moving Kruger. FLA a possibility.


assuming that source is the FO, then it's bye-bye time for 65
- jt19

yep....saad part 2. not a surprise.

he isn't taking a 1 year deal with cap hell across the NHL occurring next year, unless hes a fool or his agent is. Possible, but not likely.

Now it's a matter of what the greater return is and what Shaw's actual number is that the Hawks can live with.........

Mark Lazerus @MarkLazerus

Source says Andrew Shaw is asking for at least $4.5 million AAV. Moving him might be more realistic than moving Kruger. FLA a possibility.


assuming that source is the FO, then it's bye-bye time for 65
- jt19

As Mike Tyson would say - "that's ludicrith"

Mark Lazerus @MarkLazerus

Source says Andrew Shaw is asking for at least $4.5 million AAV. Moving him might be more realistic than moving Kruger. FLA a possibility.


assuming that source is the FO, then it's bye-bye time for 65
- jt19

Let him sign an offer sheet, 1st round pick and 3rd round pick. Otherwise tender a qualifying offer at 2.5 mil.

Mark Lazerus @MarkLazerus

Source says Andrew Shaw is asking for at least $4.5 million AAV. Moving him might be more realistic than moving Kruger. FLA a possibility.


assuming that source is the FO, then it's bye-bye time for 65
- jt19

Peace Shawzer. It's been fun.

haha i assume you added rundblad getting traded on there?
- hawkss81

This ones not mine didn't notice that Rundblad trade in there lol

@marklazerus twitter: Source says Andrew Shaw is asking for at least $4.5 million AAV. Moving him might be more realistic than moving Kruger. FLA a possibility.

So long Andrew. Nice knowin ya.

What's funny to me when people talk about Crosby's contract in comparison to Kane and Toews cap hits is the fact that Crosby apparently took less knowing full well they would have a better chance of winning and adding complimentary players if he took a little less. Toews and Kane both took equal contracts to become the highest paid players in the NHL. Now since then we have heard rumblings of both Kane requesting the Hawks pursue Ryan Kesler because he was a guy Kane wanted to play with and now rumblings from JJ about Toews and Kane both requesting a guy like Lucic. Well that's interesting they both think they can be the highest paid players in the league and still request specific types of guys they want their team to acquire that would fit their idea of ideal teammates/linemates. You can't really have your cake and eat it too. They both had to know that by taking those massive contracts they were limiting what could be done to bring in role players or guys they want to play with specifically.

Just goes to show how much of a character guy Crosby is in taking that discount as he easily could have demanded and been paid more money, he understood the financial implications and you have to wonder if the Pens would have been able to raise the cup like they just did had Crosby been paid more money....

Anyways I'm not here to bash Kane and Toews for getting paid, that's well earned money. I just think it seems like a certain degree of entitlement is implied in asking for your team to bring in certain players knowing full well your team has no money to pay anybody because both guys wanted their pay day. Interesting to think about anyways how much easier life might be for Stan Bowman if he was able to get those guys to agree to a little bit less... Thoughts?
- Ballam

Opposite could also be argued. Toews and Kane were certainly pushed by the players union to not give a discount. Their contracts raise the bar for every big contract in the next several years.

I wish they had taken $9-9.5m. But life is never as simple as that.

yep....saad part 2. not a surprise.

he isn't taking a 1 year deal with cap hell across the NHL occurring next year, unless hes a fool or his agent is. Possible, but not likely.

Now it's a matter of what the greater return is and what Shaw's actual number is that the Hawks can live with.........
- SteveRain

If the Hawks QO him at 2.5 for one year, he either has to take it or go to arbitration.

Yikes....

So if Kruger got a little over 3 million per AAV
Shaw wants at least 4.5, yet to be seen if he gets....

what is Panarin going to want? Answer well above 6 AAV, and I very well begin to wonder how the hell Bowman slides that in. Not good.

I'm not going to walk away, as I stare at 16's deal and just feel my face turning red and blood pressure rising...........

Opposite could also be argued. Toews and Kane were certainly pushed by the players union to not give a discount. Their contracts raise the bar for every big contract in the next several years.

I wish they had taken $9-9.5m. But life is never as simple as that.
- Cmonalready

That and many would argue that $10.5M wasn't full amount that CBA allowed them to get and they could have gotten more - Toews in the Peg and Kane in Buffalo.

From the "Blackhawks Insider"

Tracey Myers
@TramyersCSN
Source on chances Shaw and #Blackhawks get a deal done: "50-50." Like @MarkLazerus already said, FLA also interested.

If the Hawks QO him at 2.5 for one year, he either has to take it or go to arbitration.
- JRoenick97

would you take it looking at comparables? Reason why Niemi didn't take it in 2010 and then got his ruling and the Hawks walked away. Same will happen here. Guaranteed.

@marklazerus twitter: Source says Andrew Shaw is asking for at least $4.5 million AAV. Moving him might be more realistic than moving Kruger. FLA a possibility.

So long Andrew. Nice knowin ya.
- Marlowe

FLA has the 23rd and 33rd overall picks in the draft. Can Hawks get one of those for Shaws rfa rights?

@marklazerus twitter: Source says Andrew Shaw is asking for at least $4.5 million AAV. Moving him might be more realistic than moving Kruger. FLA a possibility.

So long Andrew. Nice knowin ya.
- Marlowe

lololol

Shaw at 4.5 million? Goodbye.

Mark Lazerus ‏@MarkLazerus 1m1 minute ago

League source says Patrick Sharp could be in play for Dallas, which desperately needs help on defense. Another possibility for Kulikov?

Would hate to lose Shaw, but would love to see him go to the Panthers. Very cool. If they get Lucic, too...wow.

would you take it looking at comparables? Reason why Niemi didn't take it in 2010 and then got his ruling and the Hawks walked away. Same will happen here. Guaranteed.
- SteveRain

Did niemi get a QO? I thought he would have gotten an offer sheet prior to that?

Mark Lazerus @MarkLazerus

Source says Andrew Shaw is asking for at least $4.5 million AAV. Moving him might be more realistic than moving Kruger. FLA a possibility.


assuming that source is the FO, then it's bye-bye time for 65
- jt19

In that case just give him the minimum QO, if he can get an offer sheet for that great. We'll take a 2017 first and third. BTW, interesting way to work around the current ban on talking to other teams.

Mark Lazerus @MarkLazerus

Source says Andrew Shaw is asking for at least $4.5 million AAV. Moving him might be more realistic than moving Kruger. FLA a possibility.


assuming that source is the FO, then it's bye-bye time for 65
- jt19

Did niemi get a QO? I thought he would have gotten an offer sheet prior to that?
- the_dough_boy

They went to arbitration and the Hawks walked away.

he then signed with San Jose.

Mark Lazerus @MarkLazerus

Source says Andrew Shaw is asking for at least $4.5 million AAV. Moving him might be more realistic than moving Kruger. FLA a possibility.


assuming that source is the FO, then it's bye-bye time for 65
- jt19

Package him for kulikov