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classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jun 23 @ 3:02 PM ET
That would mean Van is in a rebuild.
- manvanfan



Which Aquilini would never accept in a million years
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 23 @ 3:02 PM ET
Demers I think is still the premier guy.

I agree that Dan will get a big number from someone else but I think he still wants to play in Van and would take a pretty big paycut to remain.

- belcherbd

I agree, Hamhuis would take a big discount not to up root his family, he's a big family man.
we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Don't hate me because I'm really really ridiculously good looking.
Joined: 09.29.2007

Jun 23 @ 3:02 PM ET
I think PK would make us a playoff team.
- thundachunk

Why? He didn't make Montreal a playoff team.
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 23 @ 3:07 PM ET
The Canucks have 14 million off the books next year and the same with the Sedins coming off the year after. Signing one big UFA will not cause any problems at all.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 23 @ 3:09 PM ET
The Canucks have 4 million off the books next year and the same with the Sedins coming off the year after. Signing one big UFA will not cause any problems at all.
- WhatTheNuck


I wonder if the Sedins re-up, what their contracts will look like? Playing for the money or the chance to win a cup? both? 5mil or 7mil?
Lostinarink
Joined: 10.30.2013

Jun 23 @ 3:10 PM ET
I am disappointed in people. I am waiting to see someone explain what JB needs to do to make sure that he can sign Stamkos, Lucic and Ericksson PLUS trade for PK (all while trading up to get a top 3 pick - or is that down???).

What will the new lineups look like?
Why is this enough to win the Cup, if and only if, they toast WD and bring in Green?



Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 23 @ 3:11 PM ET
I agree, Hamhuis would take a big discount not to up root his family, he's a big family man.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Not to mention religious, doesn't he has a specific church his family goes to? Religious people are fickle this way. If we could drop Sbisa and sign hammer to 2.5 that is worth it. What I wish they do would be to fire Lidster and hire Hammer. I know i am beating a dead horse here, but that sounds like a smart move to me. He would be a great defense coach for our team.
bryndog
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 3:12 PM ET
Total goals last 3 regular seasons: Hartnell 71; Lucic 62
Total points last 3 regular seasons: Hartnell 161; Lucic 158
Hartnell has also played fewer games than Lucic.

I'm not saying Canucks should get Hartnell, but he could be a good value pick-up for some team. He's not just a cap dump.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 23 @ 3:13 PM ET
I am disappointed in people. I am waiting to see someone explain what JB needs to do to make sure that he can sign Stamkos, Lucic and Ericksson PLUS trade for PK (all while trading up to get a top 3 pick - or is that down???).

What will the new lineups look like?
Why is this enough to win the Cup, if and only if, they toast WD and bring in Green?




- Lostinarink


you have something in mind? please share.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 23 @ 3:14 PM ET
Tomlinson was asked what the asking price is and he said it's too much for Canucks at the moment and refered to a trade proposal that he thinks the Canucks may have turned down...

To Mtl
Tanev
5OA
Hansen

To Van
PK Subban
9OA


If they also took Higgins off our hands, I would be ok with that trade. Wouldn't love it as I want to see if Tanev adds some offense this season. But PK makes us better.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 23 @ 3:19 PM ET
If they also took Higgins off our hands, I would be ok with that trade. Wouldn't love it as I want to see if Tanev adds some offense this season. But PK makes us better.
- Retinalz


I think we would still have to add, and not a salary dump or MTL keeps their 9th pick...
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 23 @ 3:21 PM ET
It would be a travesty if we had to endure watching Lucic or PK play for this team. That said, anyone wonder if JB would sign Lucic and Eriksson both for big money then just leave Lucic open to expansion?
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jun 23 @ 3:22 PM ET
Total goals last 3 regular seasons: Hartnell 71; Lucic 62
Total points last 3 regular seasons: Hartnell 161; Lucic 158
Hartnell has also played fewer games than Lucic.

I'm not saying Canucks should get Hartnell, but he could be a good value pick-up for some team. He's not just a cap dump.

- bryndog


His time horizon for his contract is perfect.

3 years
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 23 @ 3:22 PM ET
The Canucks have 4 million off the books next year and the same with the Sedins coming off the year after. Signing one big UFA will not cause any problems at all.
- WhatTheNuck


Canucks have ~21 off the books next year with Burrows,Higgins, Miller, Horvat, Hutton, Tryamkin, Gudbranson ,Virtanen and Markstrom.

My guess Gubranson gets 5, Horvat and Hutton gets a bridge of 3, Markstrom gets 4, Tryamkin and Virtanen 2.5.

That equals 20 million. Maybe I am off on my contracts a bit but I don't think there is room for another 6+ million dollar player.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 23 @ 3:24 PM ET
It would be a travesty if we had to endure watching Lucic or PK play for this team. That said, anyone wonder if JB would sign Lucic and Eriksson both for big money then just leave Lucic open to expansion?
- NorthNuck


the more this is hashed out, the less desirable these moves/signings become...

guessing there would be a ntc clause attached to a big ufa signing and the talk with PK is said to be because his ntc hasn't kicked in yet and I think ntc players have to be protected...
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 23 @ 3:26 PM ET
Canucks have ~21 off the books next year with Burrows,Higgins, Miller, Horvat, Hutton, Tryamkin, Gudbranson ,Virtanen and Markstrom.

My guess Gubranson gets 5, Horvat and Hutton gets a bridge of 3, Markstrom gets 4, Tryamkin and Virtanen 2.5.

That equals 20 million. Maybe I am off on my contracts a bit but I don't think there is room for another 6+ million dollar player.

- belcherbd

Virtanen has 2 years left, not 1. check generalfanager
Lostinarink
Joined: 10.30.2013

Jun 23 @ 3:27 PM ET
you have something in mind? please share.
- hillbillydeluxe


Of course I have something in mind - creating havoc on this forum by throwing the dogs a bone to chew on!
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 23 @ 3:28 PM ET
the more this is hashed out, the less desirable these moves/signings become...

guessing there would be a ntc clause attached to a big ufa signing and the talk with PK is said to be because his ntc hasn't kicked in yet and I think ntc players have to be protected...

- hillbillydeluxe

All I want is one of Eriksson, Boedker, Okposo + someone who can play 2nd/3rd line. If we sign Lucic or trade for Subban I probably won't be as inclined to watch games this season because I'll be so ashamed of the team
we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Don't hate me because I'm really really ridiculously good looking.
Joined: 09.29.2007

Jun 23 @ 3:29 PM ET
Total goals last 3 regular seasons: Hartnell 71; Lucic 62
Total points last 3 regular seasons: Hartnell 161; Lucic 158
Hartnell has also played fewer games than Lucic.

I'm not saying Canucks should get Hartnell, but he could be a good value pick-up for some team. He's not just a cap dump.

- bryndog

This makes more sense than Lucic as we could probably pick up something extra from Columbus for giving them cap space, rather than being saddled with Lucic in 2022/23.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 23 @ 3:31 PM ET
Of course I have something in mind - creating havoc on this forum by throwing the dogs a bone to chew on!
- Lostinarink




the possibilities are endless with the draft, trades and ufa's available...

how many ways can JB feck this up? the doom and gloom is on the horizon and we are months away from puck drop.

JB is on 1040 now.
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 23 @ 3:35 PM ET
I wonder if the Sedins re-up, what their contracts will look like? Playing for the money or the chance to win a cup? both? 5mil or 7mil?
- hillbillydeluxe


It will vastly depend on how things go for next two seasons.
VIRTBOHUT
Location: kelowna, BC
Joined: 12.02.2015

Jun 23 @ 3:35 PM ET
It would be a travesty if we had to endure watching Lucic or PK play for this team. That said, anyone wonder if JB would sign Lucic and Eriksson both for big money then just leave Lucic open to expansion?
- NorthNuck


No doubt Lucic is polarizing, but the bigger travesty is watching our star players get RUN every game, over and over and over.. While no one stands up for them. If you get a chance to sign Bertuzzi 2.0, I say go for it.. As for PK I can't begin to describe the intangibles this guy would bring to this team.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 23 @ 3:35 PM ET
All I want is one of Eriksson, Boedker, Okposo + someone who can play 2nd/3rd line. If we sign Lucic or trade for Subban I probably won't be as inclined to watch games this season because I'll be so ashamed of the team
- NorthNuck


I'd settle for a Perron or other 2nd/3rd tier ufa winger. worst case scenario is Hansen is back with the Sedins and we don't break the bank but keep some cap space and maybe take advantage of a cap team.

I can't see Lucic with the Sedins, beyond on the pp, that would be a slow line if he was with them.

The Hartnell/Lucic comparison is interesting.
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 23 @ 3:36 PM ET
Canucks have ~21 off the books next year with Burrows,Higgins, Miller, Horvat, Hutton, Tryamkin, Gudbranson ,Virtanen and Markstrom.

My guess Gubranson gets 5, Horvat and Hutton gets a bridge of 3, Markstrom gets 4, Tryamkin and Virtanen 2.5.

That equals 20 million. Maybe I am off on my contracts a bit but I don't think there is room for another 6+ million dollar player.

- belcherbd


It was a typo. 14 million ish for guys probably not coming back.

I think some of those costs are a bit inflated but you could be right.

Miller, Higgins and Burrows gone = 13 mil

Horvat, Hutton, Tryamkin, Gudbranson, and Markstrom will be around 10-11 million additional cap space after this year which fits without a UFA signing which is why I think someone moves.

Gaunce and Etem aren't included in that either. I still think we see a trade tomorrow and then more moment at TDL.

hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 23 @ 3:38 PM ET
It will vastly depend on how things go for next two seasons.
- WhatTheNuck


That Hedman article, a while back, in the Player's Tribune kind of indicates to me the Sedins will only play for the Canucks if they stay in the NHL and not just chase the cup and go to another club.

I could see them back if we get some more scoring in the lineup.
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