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FlyersPhanatic012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.27.2010

Jun 23 @ 1:54 PM ET
That isn't my point. I only meant to point out the inconsistency of the voting that penalizes McDavid for being injured but glosses over a guy being cut.
- James_Tanner


What does a player being "cut" at the beginning of the regular season have anything to do with the reality that he played 64 games and put up 17 goals, 29 assists and 46 points. McDavid should not get penalized for getting injured just like Ghost shouldn't get penalized for not starting the season in the NHL. The simple fact is Ghost played 64 games, which is the larger sample size (thus that should factor in his favor over McDavid's 45 games).
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jun 23 @ 1:55 PM ET
first, you're an opinionated a-hole. And I mean that literally.

second, why should an employee who didn't show up for half the year win "employee of the year"? if you don't play for more than 1/3 of the season you shouldn't even be considered in my opinion.

third, megadeth is awesome. (old megadeth anyways!)

fourth, i don't even know what your name is...and wont remember it ever. braden holty will always be remembered, and not for a stupid reason like his name.

fifth, who cares what he looks like. the man is an amazing gt, and i'd rather have him kick me in the nuts than hang out with a sourpuss like yourself.

sixth, kane is innocent until proven guilty. i hate the guy too, doesn't mean he doesn't more than deserve that award this year.

now shut up, and go back into your mom's basement to your chronic masturbating whle watching Hansen videos you seem so familiar with.

- TBroad


This is why there is almost no humour in the hockey writing world.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jun 23 @ 1:55 PM ET
What does a player being "cut" at the beginning of the regular season have anything to do with the reality that he played 64 games and put up 17 goals, 29 assists and 46 points. McDavid should not get penalized for getting injured just like Ghost shouldn't get penalized for not starting the season in the NHL. The simple fact is Ghost played 64 games, which is the larger sample size (thus that should factor in his favor over McDavid's 45 games).
- FlyersPhanatic012


Again, for the fifth time, I agree with everything you're saying, I'm only pointing out a logical inconsistency.
TBroad
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Okanagan, BC
Joined: 06.18.2011

Jun 23 @ 1:57 PM ET
Did Tanner bang your sister in the bumhole?
- Cooshie


probably, who hasn't!?!?
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 23 @ 1:58 PM ET
probably, who hasn't!?!?
- TBroad

TBroad
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Okanagan, BC
Joined: 06.18.2011

Jun 23 @ 1:59 PM ET
This is why there is almost no humour in the hockey writing world.
- James_Tanner


trashing people for their names, appearances, and crimes they didn't commit isn't funny...it just makes you a wiener.
greekdude4567
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Officially Prax-Lite, MN
Joined: 08.30.2009

Jun 23 @ 1:59 PM ET
Yes but does anyone think the defense of Doughty made up for the 32 difference in points? It's ridiculous to even say that.
- James_Tanner

But Mr. Tanner, in your words judging based on results is flawed. So I discredit any point advantage Karlsson had. Plus Doughty's shot suppression is much better than Karlssons. Go Doughty for Norris!!
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jun 23 @ 1:59 PM ET
Then how can any team with McJesus be an instant Stanley Cup contender???

You're a joke!

- The-O-G


Because there isn't that much difference between the 12th and 30th teams. If you have McDavid, you have basically an untouchable line for 1/3 of the game. If you be just slightly below average everywhere else, which isn't that hard, you'll be a Playoff contender.

The Oilers only missed by 7 wins. Let's say another 40 games by McDavid and Klefbom is worth two each and the half season RNH missed is worth one. That leaves them two wins out of the Playoffs with maybe the worst D in the league and still quite a few other injuries.

And yes, I know injuries happen to everyone, but not to the extent the Oilers suffered last year.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jun 23 @ 2:00 PM ET
trashing people for their names, appearances, and crimes they didn't commit isn't funny...it just makes you a wiener.
- TBroad



Jeez man, what's left to trash?
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jun 23 @ 2:01 PM ET
I do


- jimi james


That's the guy who hosted last year's awards isn't it?
uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Excuseville, FL
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jun 23 @ 2:02 PM ET
I am not cherry picking, I'm just pointing out the rules as they are stupid.

You can think whatever you want, I happen to think Panarin won the least deserving award maybe ever, not counting Doughty.

- James_Tanner


So is the 25 game rule stupid? If so what would be your minimum for a rookie to qualify?


TBroad
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Okanagan, BC
Joined: 06.18.2011

Jun 23 @ 2:02 PM ET
Jeez man, what's left to trash?
- James_Tanner


the leafs? hehe.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:03 PM ET
Keith Seabrook?

I do agree though, Karlsson got robbed and McDavid clearly was the best rookie.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jun 23 @ 2:07 PM ET
So is the 25 game rule stupid? If so what would be your minimum for a rookie to qualify?
- uf1910



A good question. I don't really know if I've thought about it........there does need to be some kind of cut-off, and I do think it's cheesy if Matt Murray is a rookie next year after playing so much in the Playoffs.......I'd say maybe bring it down to ten or fifteen games?

James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jun 23 @ 2:09 PM ET
Keith Seabrook?

I do agree though, Karlsson got robbed and McDavid clearly was the best rookie.

- FLflames34


Keith Seabrook is like a mega-power ranger, not a typo.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 23 @ 2:09 PM ET
first, you're an opinionated a-hole. And I mean that literally.

second, why should an employee who didn't show up for half the year win "employee of the year"? if you don't play for more than 1/3 of the season you shouldn't even be considered in my opinion.

third, megadeth is awesome. (old megadeth anyways!)

fourth, i don't even know what your name is...and wont remember it ever. braden holty will always be remembered, and not for a stupid reason like his name.

fifth, who cares what he looks like. the man is an amazing gt, and i'd rather have him kick me in the nuts than hang out with a sourpuss like yourself.

sixth, kane is innocent until proven guilty. i hate the guy too, doesn't mean he doesn't more than deserve that award this year.

now shut up, and go back into your mom's basement to your chronic masturbating whle watching Hansen videos you seem so familiar with.

- TBroad




Far too much detail... This reeks of experience.

Settle down, Spanky.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jun 23 @ 2:13 PM ET
Keith Seabrook is a real person. He is the career AHL younger brother of Brent Seabrook. I'm surprised nothing about how Kane didnt deserve the Hart Trophy bc he's "not a nice guy". Also, McJesus will have to wait on his Hart Trophy bc they dont award that for incomplete seasons either. Maybe the "greatest player in the world" should learn how to stay on his edges when going full speed near the boards?
BOSBRUINS10
Boston Bruins
Location: Ipswich, MA
Joined: 06.29.2015

Jun 23 @ 2:15 PM ET
All I hear is, "Wahhhhhhhhh." Grow up, dude.
howiehandles
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.18.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:17 PM ET
45 games does not make a season. That's the reason why he lost. Get over it.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 23 @ 2:18 PM ET
James Tanner: McDavid Robbed and Other Awards Night Observations
The NHL Awards Review Blog

- James_Tanner

adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jun 23 @ 2:18 PM ET
I've been saying for years that they need a separate award for the best offensive defenseman. They have one for the best defensive forward. If there were two separate awards for defenseman, Karlsson never would have even been considered for a Norris. The writers like stat lines and some of the best defenseman may not show up on the score sheet, but could be the best player on the ice.
Phil Housley had 92 points one season and finished 3rd in voting for the Norris, losing to Chelios who had 56 points that year. My how the times have changed.
sliprock65
Joined: 08.20.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:19 PM ET


Luckily, I don't care at all



Good thing you don't care because imagine how many more charts and analytic results and writing you would have done
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Jun 23 @ 2:20 PM ET
To me it seems like it was decided at the start of the season that it was time to give Doughty a Norris. I hate the Sens but Karlsson should have won it hands down. If he was a Leaf it would have been a no brainer.

I also think Crosby won the Conn Smythe for the same reason. I love Sid but Kessel deserved it more.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jun 23 @ 2:33 PM ET
To me it seems like it was decided at the start of the season that it was time to give Doughty a Norris. I hate the Sens but Karlsson should have won it hands down. If he was a Leaf it would have been a no brainer.

I also think Crosby won the Conn Smythe for the same reason. I love Sid but Kessel deserved it more.

- shack67



If Karlsson was the best defenseman in the league this past season, his team would not have 230 goals for and 360 against.
67hawks
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 23 @ 2:34 PM ET
Keith Seabrook?

I do agree though, Karlsson got robbed and McDavid clearly was the best rookie.

- FLflames34


Tanner is an obvious Hawk hater as evidenced in his blogs the whole season.
He was just trying to sneak in as many Hawk players as he could in his latest tirade.
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