Maybe we could grab geno and hope the cap goes up to 230 mil. Is Richards still available for 1 mil.? He's a cheaper option. I wouldn't ign ol soup bone for more than 1 mil either.

GO HOCKS FO!
- hocktock

lololol. 230,000,000

made m chuckle .

Good morning,

You know.....I thought the same thing about Kane. He looked miserable there last night, even on random shots he looked like he wanted to get the hell out of dodge. Glad he won the awards.

I was thinking about this whole Malkin thing as I saw the Kuc tweet and then the Boyle tweet. The Boyle tweet is VERY interesting seeing that he's a DIRECT employee of the Hawks, much like Myers, so for him to go out on a limb is a very brave play or else he'll end up like Josh Mora, wrongfully terminated for dare stepping outside the organizational parameters.

Tarasenko loves giving shout outs to Panarin. He also referred Panarin to the Blues and the Blues didn't pounce when they could have. The Hawks pursuing one of the best Russian players in the game very well could be a ploy to lock up Panarin long term to a team friendly deal. I don't know if the Blues could or would make a run at AP this coming summer, but the more I add up everything from quotes from the worlds in May to current day, I get the sense AP is keeping his options open and Malkin could be Bowman's key to locking him down.

You also save the Toews argument, assuming Kane isnt' dealt, as you reunite 19/88/81 and then have 71/72 and whomever.

See how this plays out, but I mentioned a few blogs ago about smoke and fire, and there is NO question there is some MAJOR legs to this rumor.....
- SteveRain

^^

@SportsnetSpec

Sounds like #Blackhawks ready to move '11 1st rd'er Mark McNeill. Player never met Quenneville's approval, somehow. Needs fresh start.

Kaner cleaned up last night in Vegas, but he didn't look all that happy about it. Maybe I'm seeing something that isn't there, but maybe he's been told he's being shopped and to keep him mouth shut. I dunno. Or maybe it's just with his family there and the hawks security he feels he's being caged up a bit.
- 6628

I took it more as he is attempting to change his image to be more humbled and reserved and ridding himself of the party type image. I like him being more serious and mature...it beats the alternative. Loved his speech though. Especially saying it was for his dad and that he loved his dad. They panned to his dad quickly and he was very emotional. A real nice moment.

Kaner was fine....I'm sure there was a bit of nerves in trying to win the Hart trophy for a US born player - sitting front row. Having a comedian throw a mic in his face and not knowing what was going to be said.

Those situations/camera shots/interviews are MUCH different than after a game when they are in their working environment/talking about the game.

I wouldn't read much into nerves.

I apologize if this offends anyone or considers this an outdated way of thinking.

I have always been of the belief that the North American game is the style game you need to be Champions in the NHL. I dont know what it is. Maybe it's more lunch pale and the guys just value and understand what that trophy truly means. In international hockey you can get by with the perimeter and the high skill level. That being said. Hammer, Krugs (though I am not a fan of 3m for his services), Big Hoss, dont play a Euro style. Neither did Johnny O. Now to my point: Look back at all three Cups this team has won and the breakdown of where the players on that team were from.

Start with 2010- Canadians- Toews, Keith, Seabs, Sharp, Bolland, Brouwer, Versteeg, Sopel, Eager, Campbell, Ladd, Madden
Americans- Burish, Buff, Kane
Slovakia- Hossa, Kopy
Sweden- Hammer

Coincidence, meh, lets keep going.

2013- Canadians- Bicks, Bolland, Brookbank, Keith, Seabs, Shaw, Sharp, Toews
American- Kane, Leddy, Saad, Smith
Swedes- Oduya, Hammer, Krugs, Stalberg
Slovakia- Frolik, Handzus, Hossa, Rozy

Not as heavy on North American players but lets look at 2015:

2015- Canadians- Bicks, Cumiskey, Desi, Keith, Richards, Seabs, Sharp, Shaw, Toews, Vermette, Versteeg
American- Kane, Saad, Smith, TVR (to an extent)
Fins- TT, Timmo
Slovs-Hoss, Rosy
Swedes- Hammer, Krugs, Nordy, Oduya, Rundblad

@015 was a lot heavier on the North AMerican influence. Anyone notice a major commonality between all three of these teams? How many Russians are on these rosters? I love Breadman and think he plays with more tenacity than others, but I have never been an advocate for building your team on a heavy European roster. It makes a difference. The style of play, the ability to win battles at crucial times.

Ship out Anisimov bc we have Won a lot more for a lot less, he is not the answer. Just something that I personally watch. Again I dont mean to offend anyone, but it speaks volumes in my opinion. I believe Malkin was the only russian on the Pens roster. Adding him here doesnt make me anymore comfortable or confident.

I understand the angst of Penguins fans around the annual Malkin rumors. However, if it was Kane for Malkin, you should be ecstatic bc that is larceny (yet again) by Rutherford. I will literally march to Bowman's front door if he trades Kane for Malkin.

- EnzoD

Bowman is one of Kane's biggest allies in that FO going back to his rookie year and living with Bowman in his basement. Business is business, but I can't see Kane being involved.

I wouldn't be shocked to see TVR being a piece given the rules of the expansion draft and him very llikely not having a chair in the Hawks bubble when the music stops.

Something like malkin, a lower line COST Controlled player for AA, Kruger, TVR, and a prospect?

I think you then see Shaw dealt for something, and possibly even Crawford.

I think John's point about a possible engine rebuild is very possible. we dont' know what is/isn't going on, but that team this year looked disinterested most of the year and that very could be some locker room tension.......that's the part NOBODY knows or who said exactly what during their exit interviews on cleanout day.......

Kaner cleaned up last night in Vegas, but he didn't look all that happy about it. Maybe I'm seeing something that isn't there, but maybe he's been told he's being shopped and to keep him mouth shut. I dunno. Or maybe it's just with his family there and the hawks security he feels he's being caged up a bit.
- 6628

My thought was that he looked strikingly like a young Bobby Hull - receding blond hairline, even a marked resemblance in his face.

I think any movement of Seabrook would have to bring a righty D coming back. Someone that is cost-controlled and younger. Will there be a dropoff? Likely.

IF Seabrook is moved (haven't heard his name on this board or elsewhere), I think there is a real leadership element that is constantly talked about with him. How is that element replaced with the current roster?
- phantasmo

The only way Seabrook gets traded is if say... Travis Hamonic is coming back for sure. Otherwise, it's hard to see a scenario where you trade a top 2-3 defenseman in the league. It's very likely if he goes, the defense takes a negative curve.

My concern is the bigger picture, as a hawks fan we are an aging tem, and eventually need to blend some younger talent in to take over for these guys. I love Seabrook as a player, but its time to make some moves, if it takes a couple of years to get to the big show so be it.

@SportsnetSpec

Sounds like #Blackhawks ready to move '11 1st rd'er Mark McNeill. Player never met Quenneville's approval, somehow. Needs fresh start.
- DarthKane

Saw that as well... Makes me wonder if something is brewing sooner rather than later? I can't imagine significant return by himself, nor does it solve any Hawks problems to deal him; however, a package w/ current roster players? Who knows...

If Malkin is a possibility, Shaw would have to be gone, most likely Crawford, and another contract, say AA. Seabrook? (hope not), but maybe... Lot of money involved. Curious to see how they fill out the depth chart.

JJ. If Shaw DID happen to get moved....would hartman be at all ready to step in as a 70-80% version of Shaw. He seems to have many of the same attributes, just unsure if he is ready to take the NEXT step??....what is your take??? (or any of you other guys who have seen a bit of Hartman this past 6 months or so...)

Hawk35

Saw that as well... Makes me wonder if something is brewing sooner rather than later? I can't imagine significant return by himself, nor does it solve any Hawks problems to deal him; however, a package w/ current roster players? Who knows...
- Frenchy4488

If this is true, McNeil will likely be gone in the next 36 hours, along with other players, before the draft

[quote=nickmo2699]

I am not Russian but I 100% disagree with your thought process here. AA isn't a perimeter Russian nor is Panarin. Both grind, dig, battle. AA scored some dirty goals, and did a LOT of the heavy lifting on the defensive side for 88/72.

Forget the Hawks......you have the Kings, Penguins, and Wings who all have won with less "lunch pail" players.

I dont' think it's designated to one ethnic group as much as it's to each player himself. Reason why dear Teuvo is long gone. There are Canadian players who routinely choke...just ask the Sharks.

It makes a difference. The style of play, the ability to win battles at crucial times.

Ship out Anisimov
- nickmo2699

These 2 things do not compute. Anisimov wins a lot of battles and uses his size well. Your entire post reeks of correlation, not causation. The 15 team faltered because the D was not up to snuff, and no real 1LW. That's it, really.

These 2 things do not compute. Anisimov wins a lot of battles and uses his size well. Your entire post reeks of correlation, not causation. The 15 team faltered because the D was not up to snuff, and no real 1LW. That's it, really.
- JRoenick97

Annnnd


Because played Mashinter over Weise way too much .

My thought was that he looked strikingly like a young Bobby Hull - receding blond hairline, even a marked resemblance in his face.
- StLBravesFan

Did you also notice the subtle yet INTENTIONAL video of Kane playing golf with his dad in Vegas? The ole......see he's not running around with his shirt off, trolling for chicks. That looked very desperate to please whoever it was intended for.

Kane doesn't have a LOT of ground to stand on given his frat boy partying past, and I'm not condemning it just stating, but if I were him and I'm being strongly asked to shoot a video of playing golf during the offseason at an awards banquet.....eh.....no thanks.

Crap like this aggravates me as it insults my intelligence. No need for it. Let the guy enjoy a very special day and leave him alone. Don't need the political spin job.

I can see the frustration from both the Pittsburgh and Chicago side as far as teams who have their best players as the subject of rumors every summer. Coming from the Buffalo area, we have been expecting a deal to bring Kane home almost every year as well. I apologize.

But, to alleviate cap, would you consider Kane for #8 this year, our first next year, Reinhart and Bogosian?



Just kidding, never would happen.

@SportsnetSpec

Sounds like #Blackhawks ready to move '11 1st rd'er Mark McNeill. Player never met Quenneville's approval, somehow. Needs fresh start.
- DarthKane

Feel bad for him in a way. Well... There goes another first round pick. Who knows, he might get full playing time elsewhere - say Arizona

These 2 things do not compute. Anisimov wins a lot of battles and uses his size well. Your entire post reeks of correlation, not causation. The 15 team faltered because the D was not up to snuff, and no real 1LW. That's it, really.
- JRoenick97

Exactly....and the 2011, 2012, 2014 teams all had lunch pail players and still lost.

So lets move on........

@SportsnetSpec

Sounds like #Blackhawks ready to move '11 1st rd'er Mark McNeill. Player never met Quenneville's approval, somehow. Needs fresh start.
- DarthKane

Interesting. McNeill needed to at least be looked at by the Hawks. I guess Q knows more than all of us, but it perplexes me how Q gives some players almost no chance while some players get the proverbial long leash.

Interesting. McNeill needed to at least be looked at by the Hawks. I guess Q knows more than all of us, but it perplexes me how Q gives some players almost no chance while some players get the proverbial long leash*.
- kwolf68

See: David Rundblad, or Mashinster.

Isnt mcneill a rfa?

Interesting. McNeill needed to at least be looked at by the Hawks. I guess Q knows more than all of us, but it perplexes me how Q gives some players almost no chance while some players get the proverbial long leash.
- kwolf68

I like Q and he's done more than his fair share of good coaching to win 3 cups, but he is certainly frustrating at times. It's likely because he has a criteria for guys in his system and none of us know what that is. That lack of knowledge is fine when we are winning cups, but when we are struggling, people get restless and look for things to blame.

Interesting. McNeill needed to at least be looked at by the Hawks. I guess Q knows more than all of us, but it perplexes me how Q gives some players almost no chance while some players get the proverbial long leash.
- kwolf68

I really do wonder how he chooses who he gives endless chances to and who he almost right away says be gone to

See: David Rundblad, or Mashinster.

Isnt mcneill a rfa?
- ikeane

Versteeg nordy Bollig ......