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jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 23 @ 8:15 AM ET
I will make this criticism about dealing Yandle to Florida, didn't Sather not trade Talbot to Florida for what would have been a better return than Edmonton cause he didn't want him in in the same Conference? Maybe he should have
- KreiderBomb


the Hagelin fiasco should be a huge lesson going forward that trading a player to the Western Conference means squat, they always come back
RAGSareDANGERus
New York Rangers
Joined: 05.22.2013

Jun 23 @ 8:18 AM ET
I will make this criticism about dealing Yandle to Florida, didn't Sather not trade Talbot to Florida for what would have been a better return than Edmonton cause he didn't want him in in the same Conference? Maybe he should have
- KreiderBomb

I think the Sharks offered their 1st rounder for Talbot and Sather/Gorton tried to get Yakupov from Edmonton and by the time they decided to accept the Sharks' offer, the Sharks rescinded it.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 23 @ 8:18 AM ET
the Hagelin fiasco should be a huge lesson going forward that trading a player to the Western Conference means squat, they always come back
- jimbro83

I think it is a dumb premise anyway. Goal number one should be to worry about your own team and how you can make it the best possible team.
Bradlee3
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tanev hit was clean.
Joined: 06.30.2012

Jun 23 @ 8:19 AM ET
7 yrs huh? He'll be lucky to play 4 of those before he's useless. What a waste.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 23 @ 8:21 AM ET
I think the Sharks offered their 1st rounder for Talbot and Sather/Gorton tried to get Yakupov from Edmonton and by the time they decided to accept the Sharks' offer, the Sharks rescinded it.
- RAGSareDANGERus


I really really doubt the Sharks offered the 9th overall pick for a goalie that would have been a UFA after one season. I have heard this rumored a million times, there had to have been more to it, like another player from the Rangers
dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 23 @ 8:24 AM ET
Clauses
NMC for whole duration of contract, modified NTC for 2017-2019 (player provides list of 15 teams to which he cannot be traded)
Source:
General Fanager

This is the NMC for Girardi as listed on General Fanager. If this is correct, despite the NTC kicking in next season, the Rangers will have to waste one of their 3 protected D spots (along with Staal) on Girardi for the expansion draft because he has a NMC that runs the life of his contract. Rangers couldn't have given Yandle his NMC without exposing McDonagh (assuming they can't get Girardi or Staal to waive theirs).
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 23 @ 8:26 AM ET
So worst case scenario if the Rangers do have to waste a protection on Girardi in the expansion draft....can they buy him out next offseason first?

If that is the case, maybe I can deal with that
Anthony5967
New York Rangers
Location: “The heart of the team beats through the Blueshirts’ Blue Line Big Three — Ryan McDonagh, Dan , NY
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jun 23 @ 8:27 AM ET
Organization has made so many mistakes. Still am so mad they didn't haul back a fortune at the deadline for him.
dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 23 @ 8:29 AM ET
So worst case scenario if the Rangers do have to waste a protection on Girardi in the expansion draft....can they buy him out next offseason first?

If that is the case, maybe I can deal with that

- TPC


If Bickell can be traded, surely the Rangers can add to Girardi to get a deal done, assuming he's willing to go elsewhere as a serviceable RHD with money retained???
dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 23 @ 8:33 AM ET
Organization has made so many mistakes. Still am so mad they didn't haul back a fortune at the deadline for him.
- Anthony5967

Rangers might have dealt Yandle at the deadline if McDonagh hadn't suffered the two cheap-shot concussions. Still doubtful that Yandle gets dealt when the Rangers believed they could make a deep playoff run.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 23 @ 8:35 AM ET
https://www.nhl.com/news/...n-draft-rules/c-281010592

I don't know if I did this right but here's the expansion Draft rules.

I think the tricky part for the Rangers is going to be having two forwards under contract and one defense under contract who played the requisite games. Klein will probably be the d man. Forwards = no idea. Hayes may get a 2 year deal.

- WineryDog

Next blog, which I am working on with an Expansion Draft one. Here is one clause from what was revealed yesterday: "All first- and second-year professionals, as well as all unsigned draft choices, will be exempt from selection (and will not be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits)."

The question is what is the definition of professional? Is it one who is in the midst of their ELC? Is it if you have used up your rookie eligibility in year one pushing you to year two? That definition will determine if Skjei must be protected. I am going to look at the CBA and see if the term is defined.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 23 @ 8:35 AM ET
If Bickell can be traded, surely the Rangers can add to Girardi to get a deal done, assuming he's willing to go elsewhere as a serviceable RHD with money retained???
- dashripdot


the contracts are apples and oranges, they aren't even the same stratosphere
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Jun 23 @ 8:37 AM ET
If Bickell can be traded, surely the Rangers can add to Girardi to get a deal done, assuming he's willing to go elsewhere as a serviceable RHD with money retained???
- dashripdot

IDK, DG has been on a steady decline the last 2 yrs. This will be the longest offseason rest he's had in over 5 years so maybe with us retaining significant salary he can be dealt. I think though the organ-I-zation wants to give another shot this yr to see if he can bounce back.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 23 @ 8:42 AM ET
the contracts are apples and oranges, they aren't even the same stratosphere
- jimbro83


Would be like Girardi/Hayes, Girardi/Kreider, Girardi/Miller for a 5th.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jun 23 @ 8:52 AM ET
I have no problem seeing Yandle go. Yes, it would have been nice to get so much more back at the deadline, but as many have said, they thought they had a shot to make some noise. The bigger problem is that management didn't see that the team was most definitely NOT going to make any noise come playoff time.
The main reason I don't think Brady should feel too much pressure is that he doesn't need to replace Yandle. Because Yandle never fit the system! We need a D-man that can make that good 1st pass out of the zone. Yandle always wants to carry it out and trying to make that adjustment is what got him into trouble so often. SO often.
We don't need to replace Yandle...we need to move on from him to the RIGHT defenseman.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 23 @ 8:58 AM ET
Would be like Girardi/Hayes, Girardi/Kreider, Girardi/Miller for a 5th.
- mdw7413

Yea just post that pic of me jumping out the window
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 23 @ 9:01 AM ET
Yea just post that pic of me jumping out the window
- TPC




Thats why I said right after that trade, anyone wanting to dump Girardi better be willing to pay a hefty price for nothing in return. Best bet is what Jimbo has been saying, try to move Staal, hope Girardi can play another 2 years then buy him out. That would work out the best all around I think.
RAGSareDANGERus
New York Rangers
Joined: 05.22.2013

Jun 23 @ 9:04 AM ET
I really really doubt the Sharks offered the 9th overall pick for a goalie that would have been a UFA after one season. I have heard this rumored a million times, there had to have been more to it, like another player from the Rangers
- jimbro83

The Sharks ultimately traded their 2016 1st and a prospect for Martin Jones although I think Jones was only going to be an RFA?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 23 @ 9:06 AM ET
Organization has made so many mistakes. Still am so mad they didn't haul back a fortune at the deadline for him.
- Anthony5967




I guess they were trying to win. Bastards.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 23 @ 9:14 AM ET


Thats why I said right after that trade, anyone wanting to dump Girardi better be willing to pay a hefty price for nothing in return. Best bet is what Jimbo has been saying, try to move Staal, hope Girardi can play another 2 years then buy him out. That would work out the best all around I think.

- mdw7413

yea if that is the best trade scenario...it would make much more sense just to buy him out
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Jun 23 @ 9:17 AM ET
I guess they were trying to win. Bastards.
- MBFlyerfan

How dare they?
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Jun 23 @ 9:21 AM ET
I would have never offered Yandle that contract. Too much for too long. Add that NMC and it'll be a nightmare deal in a few years. Guy can move the puck...yes; but he is a D-Man that has trouble playing defense.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 23 @ 9:36 AM ET
I would have never offered Yandle that contract. Too much for too long. Add that NMC and it'll be a nightmare deal in a few years. Guy can move the puck...yes; but he is a D-Man that has trouble playing defense.
- mames11


Yandle is the best player in the league at moving the puck....



out of the net when we give up a goal to give it to the linesman
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 23 @ 9:46 AM ET
How dare they?
- B2B76



I know right!?
GSimp1
St Louis Blues
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 23 @ 9:58 AM ET
Call me crazy, but I think that is a horrible contract. Not a fan of the money for a guy like Yandle (but I guess that's the market these days), but that term is horrendous. I think Yandle sucks, though, so my opinion of the deal reflects that perceived suckage!
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