Ek alt.
- Niatnouf

not at all but I do agree on his latest post

Eklund: The Habs Ownership Has to Step Up And Stop This Subban Trade Lunacy.
- Eklund

So .....what your saying is Bergevin and Therrien are a bunch of racist f....

So .....what your saying is Bergevin and Therrien are a bunch of racist f....
- Alexzanki

*becomes Habs fan*

*becomes Habs fan*
- stormey

Got to step in and take for EK on this one , no Hab fan in their right mind likes Therrien he's an idiot has no class and if he wasn't Bergy's Fox Hole Buddy he wouldn't be coaching higher than Pee Wee if that , any coach who throws his star defenseman under the bus is an idiot , any coach who cannot win with Crosby and Malkin is not a good coach ...

- toneez

I said I do not particularly like Therrien, I dont believe he

Unless it is for Crosby, I wouldn't want to trade him.

Flyers fan who posts every day about how the Penguins should trade Malkin is also a closet Habs fan who thinks they would be insane to trade Subban.

Unless it is for Crosby, I wouldn't want to trade him.
- Thehabsfan93

Unless it is for Crosby, I wouldn't want to trade him.
- Thehabsfan93

Good heavens.

Subban just finishes 14th in Norris voting.
Has a higher cap hit than any D in the league by over a million bucks.

Wouldn't trade him for anyone but Crosby!

Doughty? Nope need more!
McDavid? Are you (frank)ed? MORE!
Toews or Kane? Get out of here before I kill you...offering up that garbage!

poop well look at that. my bad.

sorry Sparky.
- Niatnouf

Welcome to the club. lol

Hey Ek, any updates on Blackwood to Toronto ?
- MountAlbert

What do you mean?

Yes, Hab leadership does. Just like the Pens leadership stood up and quashed the "Malkin trade lunacy." Just where did that lunacy come from, by the way? Be careful what you put in motion, eh?

As an anglophone who moved to Quebec, I think I can "sort of" relate to racism. (I don't pretend that it is anywhere near the real thing, but I think I can relate to how it feels to be judged/excluded/discriminated). I really loved the city years ago and elected to remain here and build a business, life, and family. All of the politics and social issues do weigh on me, that's for sure. I just think that this romanticized view of the Montreal Canadiens and their fans is way overblown. They're normal, passionate fans, in a city that is not quite up to par with a lot of north american sports teams' intelligent fan bases.

They chant a soccer song for god's sake.
- JLO961

You keep calling an entire society unintelligent but THEY are the racists? Montreal is 35% Anglo, the two communities are too large to not get along together. That's how racism is eliminated, you work together and realize people are people no matter what language they speak. It is entirely possible to live in pointe Claire and surround yourself with angles, but that's your problem and pointe Claire is not Montreal.
What an embarrassment to say that you can know what racism feels like. Talk to a black person who lived through racism. How does a soccer chant make you dumb? Also, on any given night half the bell center is Anglo, so....
You may want to consider the reason why you aren't liked is because you are racist and a poopty human being, not because you are Anglo.

*becomes Habs fan*
- stormey

I just don't see why Ek is particularly triggered by this and going out of his way to write a blog saying Subban shouldn't be traded , when the prospect of an actual trade can benefit this site.

I just don't see why Ek is particularly triggered by this and going out of his way to write a blog saying Subban shouldn't be traded , when the prospect of an actual trade can benefit this site.
- Alexzanki

Very large fan base = mucho hits.

Unless it is for Crosby, I wouldn't want to trade him.
- Thehabsfan93

Reallly? I think there are a tons of teams that could give a price Montreal couldn't turn down. Now none of these will happen but these would be impossible to say no to:

Edm: McDavid, Hall + pick 4
Cal: Bennet, Guadreu and Giordano
Buf: Eichel, Ristonlen and Folingo
LA: Doughty, Carter and pick
Nash: Weber, Smith and pick
Ari: Domi, OEL and pick

I consider all of these to be over payments for Subban and this is only a few. Point is not that these trades will happen but that it would be crazy to not at least hear what is out there. Something that could happen but still a long shot:

Stl: Shattenkirk, plus first round picks this year and next
Col: Barrie and Landkog (maybe a pick)
Ana: Getlzaf and Vatenen

Again, not going to happen but all are three teams that can give up a top pairing dman and still be fine. Plus a quality forward and picks. Has to listen at least.

Subban may be an incredibly generous person and genuinely kind hearted. I do not dispute that. I do how ever believe that this should not be the reason Montreal should not trade him. I think he needs to go, and yes I am a die hard Habs fan, but he is to much of a liability lately in his own zone, causing turnovers and trying to do far to much with the puck. I have never like his style of play on the defensive side of the game. The time is now to move on from PK Subban.

I would also like to note that I never liked Therrien either, I thought it was a huge mistake on Bergevin's part by backing him last season and keeping him on for this season. They should have brought in Marc Crawford in my mind.

Get rid of the both of them.
- habs4life21

That is just flatly false. Every statistics, from the basic "flawed" +/- to the advanced ones, show that Subban is in the top of the league for preventing goal against when he's on the ice.

He got a high total number of turnovers only because he's on the ice for half the game and always has the puck on his stick when he does. Just look at every D who are in the top total turnovers statistics year after years, the are always the elite one.

Subban does take more risks than the average player, because he is successful on them a lot more than the average player, like every other star player in hockey. If you ask your players to never take risk, you get a average or below boring grinder type. Don't understand how that is so hard for some people to grasp.

If Stamkos signs in Toronto at 80mil over 8 years (10mil a year) he would have a income tax of 53.53% (If he signed in California he would pay 52.9%)

Of the 80mil he would net 37,176,000 (or 4,647,000 a year).

On the same terms, if he signs in a state with no State Income Tax he'll have a Federal Income Tax rate of 39.6%.

Would net a total of 48,320,000 (6,040,000 a year).

I don't know the purpose of this post. Was bored. All I know is I won't be working in Canada or California. Ya'll are nuts.

You keep calling an entire society unintelligent but THEY are the racists? Montreal is 35% Anglo, the two communities are too large to not get along together. That's how racism is eliminated, you work together and realize people are people no matter what language they speak. It is entirely possible to live in pointe Claire and surround yourself with angles, but that's your problem and pointe Claire is not Montreal.
What an embarrassment to say that you can know what racism feels like. Talk to a black person who lived through racism. How does a soccer chant make you dumb? Also, on any given night half the bell center is Anglo, so....
You may want to consider the reason why you aren't liked is because you are racist and a poopty human being, not because you are Anglo.
- hunglikeapuck

I just don't see why Ek is particularly triggered by this and going out of his way to write a blog saying Subban shouldn't be traded , when the prospect of an actual trade can benefit this site.
- Alexzanki

It's really just self hating mixed with white guilt.

He spreads the rumors and his white guilt makes him feel bad for it.

It's absurd. I'll take him on my team any day of the week. Montreal would be crazy not to listen to offers for him.

There area couple things driving this bus...and I completely support Ek for reporting the rumors he is hearing ...

1. The GM and the Coach.
2. The Coach and the GM
3. Other teams believe they can take advantage of the GM because of his relationship with his Coach.

So, point 1. We have GM who has extended a coach who did nothing to warrant an extension. By doing that you are endorsing the coaches job across the board. You are endorsing his throwing players under the bus and giving up on the season because his goalie is injured.

Point 2. Both GM and coach have something else in common...they are French Canadians. PK is not. If PK's name was Pierre Kristobal I doubt he would have been on the coaches hit list. And the GM would not stand for his being targeted.

3. Other GM's smell blood in the water around the Habs and see the chance to take advantage of a GM whose own decision making is questionable. I am not saying he is as bad a GM as Mike Millbury, but he is showing the kind of illogical loyalty that leads to crazy trades and ruin organizations for years.
- wbon22

I (sadly) agree with pour point 1 and 3, but the point 2 is complete bs. We only have like 2 french canadian player on the team right now. By this logic, the coach hate 90 % of his team and secretly want to trade them all away.

Therrien don't like PK because he's an old-school dinosaur coach who want everyone to be bland robots and play crash and bang grinding hockey, and Subban is a creative risk-taker (who is successfull a lot more than not when he does take risks). No need to search farther then that.

EK, I absolutely LOVED this article. I believe it's clear that you're very passionate about this specific topic. I've criticized Marc Bergevin more times than I can count publicly on my blogs on this very site, so I echo your sentiments.

As much as I would love to completely agree with you, I do think that Bergevin has to AT LEAST listen to what the offers could potentially be. I understand the situation with Shea Weber, but we're talking about two completely different types of players. Subban is a lot more polarizing and rubs quite a few people the wrong way, thus I believe it's important for the GM to understand the extent of P.K.'s value on the market.

That will not only enrich his understanding of a (trade) market that he really does NOT like resorting to, it will make him a more shrewd negotiator if ever he does decide to pull the trigger on a big trade that could cost the organization one of the regulars on the Habs' team.

Admittedly, I hate that Subban gets so much flack the instant he opens his mouth or does anything, but I think he's handling it quite well.

Any idea what teams are offering for Subban?

EK, I absolutely LOVED this article. I believe it's clear that you're very passionate about this specific topic. I've criticized Marc Bergevin more times than I can count publicly on my blogs on this very site, so I echo your sentiments.

As much as I would love to completely agree with you, I do think that Bergevin has to AT LEAST listen to what the offers could potentially be. I understand the situation with Shea Weber, but we're talking about two completely different types of players. Subban is a lot more polarizing and rubs quite a few people the wrong way, thus I believe it's important for the GM to understand the extent of P.K.'s value on the market.

That will not only enrich his understanding of a (trade) market that he really does NOT like resorting to, it will make him a more shrewd negotiator if ever he does decide to pull the trigger on a big trade that could cost the organization one of the regulars on the Habs' team.

Admittedly, I hate that Subban gets so much flack the instant he opens his mouth or does anything, but I think he's handling it quite well.

Any idea what teams are offering for Subban?
- Andrew Saadalla

Not bad but more tongue next time, k?

If Stamkos signs in Toronto at 80mil over 8 years (10mil a year) he would have a income tax of 53.53% (If he signed in California he would pay 52.9%)

Of the 80mil he would net 37,176,000 (or 4,647,000 a year).

On the same terms, if he signs in a state with no State Income Tax he'll have a Federal Income Tax rate of 39.6%.

Would net a total of 48,320,000 (6,040,000 a year).

I don't know the purpose of this post. Was bored. All I know is I won't be working in Canada or California. Ya'll are nuts.
- MikesPillBottle

I understand your point, but your figures are very wrong.