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Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 22 @ 8:18 PM ET
You ever coach OMHA AAA?
My 10yr old son is playing on the Coyotes next year and I heard the reffing is way better in the O over the G. G refs are a gong show.

- Cooshie


Never reffed or coached in either league. Faced off against OMHA teams a few times at OHF in various 'A' championships.

I reffed and played and coached in NOHA(northern Ontario) We live so far into the forest that we are irrelevant. AAA only exists at major midget and it requires kids from towns within a 500km radius coming to our town to play. And even then, the top players are usually minor or underagers that are too good play on local A teams(or less).

I ref now in Ottawa and we don't participate with the rest of ontario for some reason.(travel) Since moving here last year I hard to earn my spot on the depth chart(last season I was no longer head ref at midget AAA and lines for Junior.) I was head ref at Peewee AAA and lines for midget AAA.

Anyways, I wish the best for your son in the OMHA. Atom and Peewee are the fun years...after that it gets very intense!
MikeBabcock
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAIN'S COMING
Joined: 05.20.2015

Jun 22 @ 8:19 PM ET
Devils need scoring. How about Gardiner, Kapanen and Percy for Larsson. I think Connor Carrick could step into that 2nd PP role that Gards has. Leafs could then sign someone like Polak for the back end.

I could still see Bozak being traded. I also think the Leafs move Michalek at some point.

JVR-Stammer-Marner
Nylander-Matthews-Brown
Komagod-Kadri-Soshnikov
Greening-Laich-Hyman

Rielly-Larsson
Carrick-Zaitsev
Polak-Harrington
Marcinin

Andersen
Bernier

- iTOLDu

tomt8391
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Saw Forsberg at the airport, NY
Joined: 06.30.2010

Jun 22 @ 8:20 PM ET
No they wouldn't. No team would be foolish to trade anyone on their team - it all depends on what the return is, plain and simple.
- Cooshie


Agreed, but that's usually implied with trade conversation. If Snow wanted to do Tavares for JVR straight up, obviously big Lou'd be all over it.
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 22 @ 8:21 PM ET
Devils need scoring. How about Gardiner, Kapanen and Percy for Larsson. I think Connor Carrick could step into that 2nd PP role that Gards has. Leafs could then sign someone like Polak for the back end.

I could still see Bozak being traded. I also think the Leafs move Michalek at some point.

JVR-Stammer-Marner
Nylander-Matthews-Brown
Komagod-Kadri-Soshnikov
Greening-Laich-Hyman

Rielly-Larsson
Carrick-Zaitsev
Polak-Harrington
Marcinin

Andersen
Bernier

- iTOLDu



If I were NJ, I would say not a chance. I want someone proven. Gardiner is not really a top 4, Kaps was benched in the AHL playoffs and Percy may not even be a 3rd pairing NHL dman.
To get a player like Larsson, it's going to be painful - like JVR plus painful.

I get that many don't want to see JVR go (I to don't want to see him go)....But for Larsson, it's worth it. Larsson and Rielly could be our top pairing 24min a game guys for the next decade and make us great for it.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 22 @ 8:23 PM ET
No they wouldn't. No team would be foolish to trade anyone on their team - it all depends on what the return is, plain and simple.
- Cooshie


trade trade trade trade..
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 22 @ 8:24 PM ET
Agreed, but that's usually implied with trade conversation. If Snow wanted to do Tavares for JVR straight up, obviously big Lou'd be all over it.
- tomt8391


LOL - True, hell, I'd bend over right next to Lou if need be.

But Leafs need a top pairing tough dman to play with Rielly more than the need JVR. We have no one in the pipes that fits that description. If you can turn JVR into that player, I don't think you hesitate. Just my opinion.
iTOLDu
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MI
Joined: 10.26.2011

Jun 22 @ 8:24 PM ET
If I were NJ, I would say not a chance. I want someone proven. Gardiner is not really a top 4, Kaps was benched in the AHL playoffs and Percy may not even be a 3rd pairing NHL dman.
To get a player like Larsson, it's going to be painful - like JVR plus painful.

I get that many don't want to see JVR go (I to don't want to see him go)....But for Larsson, it's worth it. Larsson and Rielly could be our top pairing 24min a game guys for the next decade and make us great for it.

- Cooshie



Leafs are in no position to trade JVR imo. They want something proven then take Bozak and his 40-50 points. Larsson is not worth JVR imo. He's not even 25 yet, he could easily take a step back instead of forward.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Jun 22 @ 8:25 PM ET
If the Leafs do manage to get Stamkos it'd be stupid to trade jvr. Getting Stamkos speeds up the rebuild a bit making us competitive right away without hurting the rebuild long term since we're not giving up any assets. Jvr is the only top line winger we have to play with him right now.

Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 22 @ 8:27 PM ET
Never reffed or coached in either league. Faced off against OMHA teams a few times at OHF in various 'A' championships.

I reffed and played and coached in NOHA(northern Ontario) We live so far into the forest that we are irrelevant. AAA only exists at major midget and it requires kids from towns within a 500km radius coming to our town to play. And even then, the top players are usually minor or underagers that are too good play on local A teams(or less).

I ref now in Ottawa and we don't participate with the rest of ontario for some reason.(travel) Since moving here last year I hard to earn my spot on the depth chart(last season I was no longer head ref at midget AAA and lines for Junior.) I was head ref at Peewee AAA and lines for midget AAA.

Anyways, I wish the best for your son in the OMHA. Atom and Peewee are the fun years...after that it gets very intense!

- Njuice


Thanks!!
We already got the sit down talk from our coach:
"I am not your friend, you are not my friend, we will not be having beers together after any games. I am here for your kids, not for you - I strongly advise you to remember that"
We haven't even had a practice yet!! LMFAO

Going to be interesting year coming up.
iTOLDu
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MI
Joined: 10.26.2011

Jun 22 @ 8:28 PM ET
If the Leafs do manage to get Stamkos it'd be stupid to trade jvr. Getting Stamkos speeds up the rebuild a bit making us competitive right away without hurting the rebuild long term since we're not giving up any assets. Jvr is the only top line winger we have to play with him right now.
- HealthyScratch6



Lou said himself that even if they take a step backwards, it's a move to go forward. That a plan is in place and they are very confident in it. This makes me think that the true prize is the other #91 next year.

Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 22 @ 8:28 PM ET
Leafs are in no position to trade JVR imo. They want something proven then take Bozak and his 40-50 points. Larsson is not worth JVR imo. He's not even 25 yet, he could easily take a step back instead of forward.
- iTOLDu


Larsson is the real deal......by the time he is 25, he will be one of the top 3 dmen in the NHL.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Jun 22 @ 8:28 PM ET
LOL - True, hell, I'd bend over right next to Lou if need be.

But Leafs need a top pairing tough dman to play with Rielly more than the need JVR. We have no one in the pipes that fits that description. If you can turn JVR into that player, I don't think you hesitate. Just my opinion.

- Cooshie

Larsson and trouba are both overrated.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Jun 22 @ 8:29 PM ET
Larsson is the real deal......by the time he is 25, he will be one of the top 3 dmen in the NHL.
- Cooshie

Larsson was considered a bust till this year where he put up a whopping 18pts.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 22 @ 8:30 PM ET
I don't particularly want to trade anyone that has a good contract and value at this point in time. It's going to be a different team next year and Babcock's second year. Yeah we need D but we're not winning the Cup next year so it's really not urgent. I'd rather fire it up and see what happens. Patience. The Leafs have added some key pieces pretty quickly, but their mantra has been patience and don't get overeager and make a move just for the sake of it, which I agree with.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 22 @ 8:30 PM ET
Larsson was considered a bust till this year where he put up a whopping 18pts.
- HealthyScratch6



Yep..Trade the farm for him...
iTOLDu
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MI
Joined: 10.26.2011

Jun 22 @ 8:30 PM ET
Larsson was considered a bust till this year where he put up a whopping 18pts.
- HealthyScratch6



That was my thought as well. I think he will become a great defender, but he's no where near worth JVR.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 22 @ 8:31 PM ET
So is he overrated or the real deal?
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 22 @ 8:32 PM ET
So is he overrated or the real deal?
- Symba007


Yes
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 22 @ 8:33 PM ET
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
Jack Adams Award goes to Barry Trotz



LOL...Coached the epic failure..well done..
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 22 @ 8:39 PM ET
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
Jack Adams Award goes to Barry Trotz



LOL...Coached the epic failure..well done..

- Fruitcakenipple


How did Pittsburgh's coach not win, the team was underachieving and when he came in they became unstoppable.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 22 @ 8:41 PM ET
How did Pittsburgh's coach not win, the team was underachieving and when he came in they became unstoppable.
- Zezel

I am SHOCKED Michel Therrien didn't win it, he managed the greatest fiasco in Habs history.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 22 @ 8:43 PM ET
I am SHOCKED Michel Therrien didn't win it, he managed the greatest fiasco in Habs history.
- Symba007



Agreed..He deserves an award for sure
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 22 @ 8:44 PM ET
How did Pittsburgh's coach not win, the team was underachieving and when he came in they became unstoppable.
- Zezel



Apparently that doesn't count...
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 22 @ 8:45 PM ET
Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
As we discussed on Sportscentre...and really no surprise, consider Lucic and Eriksson high priority for Canucks. They want at least 1 of 2
.

Lucy in nuck land...That should be good...
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 22 @ 8:46 PM ET
I am SHOCKED Michel Therrien didn't win it, he managed the greatest fiasco in Habs history.
- Symba007


The Habs' death spiral last year was so Leafy. Il était comme un rouleur dix-huit ans allant d'une falaise!
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