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bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:00 PM ET
The deal I was told about was Girgensons for Fowler
- SABRES 89


My guess... The price has gone up substantially over the last week or so and older Murray is giving younger a hard time and making him over pay. Murray knows what the market looks like and is being forced into a whole here...

We should've jumped on Goligoski...
bobmack13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

Jun 23 @ 11:00 PM ET
The deal I was told about was Girgensons for Fowler
- SABRES 89



I'd take that all day long.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:01 PM ET
There's a serious lack of faith in Murray on this board. There is NO WAY that we are trading the #8 for Cam Freakin Fowler. In 9 hours I'll say "I told you so". Murray is a hockey mind, he's not stupid.
- bobmack13

I think there is a serious chance Bob Murray has seen what TM has traded for other players he's wanted and is holding out to see if TM does the same for Fowler.
bobmack13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

Jun 23 @ 11:02 PM ET
My guess... The price has gone up substantially over the last week or so and older Murray is giving younger a hard time and making him over pay. Murray knows what the market looks like and is being forced into a whole here...

We should've jumped on Goligoski...

- bluengold12



Anaheim is trying to stir up a bidding war for Fowler to see who will bite.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 23 @ 11:02 PM ET
The deal I was told about was Girgensons for Fowler
- SABRES 89


I wouldn't doubt that is the base with a few things thrown in here and there due to other teams trying for him as well.
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 23 @ 11:02 PM ET
Come on man, really????? The beauty of this situation is that it will be resolved shortly. I'm taking names of all non believers, and you will be called out.
- bobmack13

Watch out, we got the umpire in here.
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Jun 23 @ 11:03 PM ET
My guess... The price has gone up substantially over the last week or so and older Murray is giving younger a hard time and making him over pay. Murray knows what the market looks like and is being forced into a whole here...

We should've jumped on Goligoski...

- bluengold12


If that is the price, you pass and wait for trades before the expansion draft, there will be players had for picks.
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 23 @ 11:03 PM ET
I'm not saying that I think he will, I just wouldn't be surprised if he did.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 23 @ 11:05 PM ET
I really hope they don't trade the 8th pick in the am

Half the fans in buffalo will have no reason to go IMO then the leafs will take
Over our building
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 23 @ 11:06 PM ET
To reply back to everyone that replied to me, I'd rather move another piece but moving Girgensons mean there is another player besides Vesey coming in
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 23 @ 11:09 PM ET
Took a vacation day tomorrow I hope I don't regret it
22sabresQ
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Are we good yet ?
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jun 23 @ 11:09 PM ET
To reply back to everyone that replied to me, I'd rather move another piece but moving Girgensons mean there is another player besides Vesey coming in
- SABRES 89

7 letters ?
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 23 @ 11:11 PM ET
To reply back to everyone that replied to me, I'd rather move another piece but moving Girgensons mean there is another player besides Vesey coming in
- SABRES 89


Last year before the season I thought Girgensons was a member of the Sabres core and would still like to keep him as the 3rd line center but as we always say around this time and the trade deadline, you have to give up something to get something.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 23 @ 11:12 PM ET
Why the (frank) would he trade the 8th for cam when you can have Faulk
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:16 PM ET
To give everyone national perspective. From Edmonton verified journalist when called out on Fowler not being worth 8th overall...

Jason Gregor ‏@JasonGregor 2m2 minutes ago
@BuffSportsFan90 huh? Fowler is proven. Go look at history of #8 picks. http://www.mynhldraft.com...-picks/8th-overall/80509/ … Buff would have to give up more to get him
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 23 @ 11:22 PM ET
To give everyone national perspective. From Edmonton verified journalist when called out on Fowler not being worth 8th overall...

Jason Gregor ‏@JasonGregor 2m2 minutes ago
@BuffSportsFan90 huh? Fowler is proven. Go look at history of #8 picks. http://www.mynhldraft.com...-picks/8th-overall/80509/ … Buff would have to give up more to get him

- bluengold12


And you called me crazy before saying it would cost more ..

The point of this is you can get Faulk for the eighth overall pick who would you rather have
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:24 PM ET
To give everyone national perspective. From Edmonton verified journalist when called out on Fowler not being worth 8th overall...

Jason Gregor ‏@JasonGregor 2m2 minutes ago
@BuffSportsFan90 huh? Fowler is proven. Go look at history of #8 picks. http://www.mynhldraft.com...-picks/8th-overall/80509/ … Buff would have to give up more to get him

- bluengold12



It may be a decent deal value wise but its a horrible deal for us because it doesnt actually solve our need for a top pairing D. Yes hes an upgrade over gorges, most d-men under 30 are. End of the day, you'll need someone significantly better than him on the top pair if you want to contend.
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:29 PM ET
To give everyone national perspective. From Edmonton verified journalist when called out on Fowler not being worth 8th overall...

Jason Gregor ‏@JasonGregor 2m2 minutes ago
@BuffSportsFan90 huh? Fowler is proven. Go look at history of #8 picks. http://www.mynhldraft.com...-picks/8th-overall/80509/ … Buff would have to give up more to get him

- bluengold12



Ha, proven what though? Cup winner? Norris winner? He's a nice middle pairing player, that's it. We already have our middle pairing set, we need a partner for Risto. We'll probably have our pick of 2 of the 3 top defensemen in the draft, we should just stick with making the pick.
bobmack13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

Jun 23 @ 11:29 PM ET
To give everyone national perspective. From Edmonton verified journalist when called out on Fowler not being worth 8th overall...

Jason Gregor ‏@JasonGregor 2m2 minutes ago
@BuffSportsFan90 huh? Fowler is proven. Go look at history of #8 picks. http://www.mynhldraft.com...-picks/8th-overall/80509/ … Buff would have to give up more to get him

- bluengold12


Your going to post a quote from an EDMONTON journalist??? He would think that Fowler was worth more that the #8, he hasn't seen a decent D man in how long???
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:31 PM ET
Your going to post a quote from an EDMONTON journalist??? He would think that Fowler was worth more that the #8, he hasn't seen a decent D man in how long???
- bobmack13


Just telling you what's out there... National perspective seems to be vastly different from on here... Not sure why
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 23 @ 11:31 PM ET
Players like Girgensons can be found again much easier than the talent you tend to draft at #8 or even a decent LS D.

I've stated that Murray believes in quality over quantity and he stated that precisely in his draft press conference this week. Those who have complained about the big trades fixate on the numbers he fixates on the talent. That is why he is not trading pick number 8 for Fowler. Pick #8 is going to be a top 6 forward or top 2-3 D. He'll probably have no problem trading Girgs and Pysyk for Fowler because Fowler will improve the D and Larsson will be able to handle Girgs duties and finding another gritty, two way, third line center won't be hard like finding a LS D has been.
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Jun 23 @ 11:32 PM ET
To give everyone national perspective. From Edmonton verified journalist when called out on Fowler not being worth 8th overall...

Jason Gregor ‏@JasonGregor 2m2 minutes ago
@BuffSportsFan90 huh? Fowler is proven. Go look at history of #8 picks. http://www.mynhldraft.com...-picks/8th-overall/80509/ … Buff would have to give up more to get him

- bluengold12


And Jason Gregor is who exactly?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:32 PM ET
It may be a decent deal value wise but its a horrible deal for us because it doesnt actually solve our need for a top pairing D. Yes hes an upgrade over gorges, most d-men under 30 are. End of the day, you'll need someone significantly better than him on the top pair if you want to contend.
- Sabresfan-365

I won't hate it if Fowler comes here but I don't really get it. He's not a #2, and we don't know how good Risto is going to be.

Defense might actually be a real problem down the road
bobmack13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

Jun 23 @ 11:34 PM ET
And Jason Gregor is who exactly?
- BigStew


A guy who has watched very bad hockey for a very long time.
bobmack13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

Jun 23 @ 11:35 PM ET
I won't hate it if Fowler comes here but I don't really get it. He's not a #2, and we don't know how good Risto is going to be.

Defense might actually be a real problem down the road

- sbroads24



Fowler would be a nice addition, just not involving the #8.
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