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IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 23 @ 12:13 PM ET
As long as there was food, water, shelter, and clothing it was a ok.
- dadeadhead

you forgot about booze
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 23 @ 12:14 PM ET
I was a huge fan of the Bend, but it was college life, had a lot of fun. Obviously it is not far from Chicago and could just hop on the train to get there and free for me to get into ND hockey games, but I did have to buy student tickets for the football season.
- doppelthat

yeah well i am sure for college it is different..
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 23 @ 12:14 PM ET
Why?

They have no contracts where salary is retained, each team is allowed 3, and a player is allowed to have salary retained twice.

- dadeadhead


Isn't there a limit to the % of contract retained?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 23 @ 12:14 PM ET
Isn't there a limit to the % of contract retained?
- turbo044



50%
doppelthat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jun 23 @ 12:15 PM ET
you forgot about booze
- IndianaSabresFan


couldnt buy booze on Sunday in Indiana, but state line liquor in Niles Michigan was just a couple miles away
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 23 @ 12:15 PM ET
you forgot about booze
- IndianaSabresFan



You can make booze from food and water...........
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jun 23 @ 12:16 PM ET
i woudl prefer it be that we have too good of a defense so that he can't make to the big club regardless of his muscle
- IndianaSabresFan

I'd prefer that he's too good no matter how our defense is. That'd be the dream lol
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 23 @ 12:18 PM ET
couldnt buy booze on Sunday in Indiana, but state line liquor in Niles Michigan was just a couple miles away
- doppelthat

check my name... i should know.

i also went to college in Indiana. in the Booming metropolis of Angola where we had our option of going to michigan or ohio. typically went to ohio because there was a gas station right at the state line
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 23 @ 12:18 PM ET
Roomer chart

Steven Stamkos
Updated: June 23, 11:16 AM ET

30% Tamp
-10%

25% Leafs
-5%

15%Wings

10%Habs

10%Islanders
+5%

10% Sabres
+10%
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 23 @ 12:19 PM ET
You can make booze from food and water...........
- dadeadhead

yeah but you need heat for that.. not one of your required things..
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 23 @ 12:21 PM ET
If the Rangers want Stamkos they will figure out a way to make it work with or without us trading for Nash. It shouldn't effect either of our plans.

I'm in the minority but I believe Nash fits perfectly here for two years.

Add Nash and Vesey and this I a playoff top 6.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 23 @ 12:21 PM ET
yeah but you need heat for that.. not one of your required things..
- IndianaSabresFan



The sun can make fire.

As can twigs rubbed together.

dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 23 @ 12:22 PM ET
If the Rangers want Stamkos they will figure out a way to make it work with or without us trading for Nash. It shouldn't effect either of our plans.

I'm in the minority but I believe Nash fits perfectly here for two years.

Add Nash and Vesey and this I a playoff top 6.

- sbroads24



Not if Nash plays like he did last year.
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jun 23 @ 12:23 PM ET
If the Rangers want Stamkos they will figure out a way to make it work with or without us trading for Nash. It shouldn't effect either of our plans.

I'm in the minority but I believe Nash fits perfectly here for two years.

Add Nash and Vesey and this I a playoff top 6.

- sbroads24


Nash to me is plan C.

Stamkos, Hall, then Nash. And I only want him if the price is cheap, well because I am a cheap person, haha.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 23 @ 12:25 PM ET
Vancouver Canucks ‏@VanCanucks 7m7 minutes ago
Vrbata, Weber and Bartkowski will not be re-signed, according to Benning. #Canucks

Just underhanding that to everyone. Do with it as you will.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 23 @ 12:27 PM ET
Not if Nash plays like he did last year.
- dadeadhead

You could say that Stamkos isn't worth the $$ if he produces like he did last year too, but I am banking on him returning to the normal rather than the outlier.


He would be our version of Hossa for 2 years. Hossa hasn't scored more than 30 as a Hawk but has been great as a 3rd or 4th option
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 23 @ 12:28 PM ET
Not if Nash plays like he did last year.
- dadeadhead

touche.... douche
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 23 @ 12:30 PM ET
O'Reilly/Nash/Kane would be a great shut down line that could score like a top line
22sabresQ
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Are we good yet ?
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jun 23 @ 12:30 PM ET
Via @BuffNewsVogl + @FriedgeHNIC, @BladesHockey HC Bob Woods is joining Buffalo Sabres staff. Presser at 1:30 today.

Head Coach and General Manager of the Saskatoon Blades of the Western Hockey League. He is a former National Hockey League assistant coach with the Anaheim Ducks and Washington Capitals
Sabre_Tooth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We're all Duane, NE
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 23 @ 12:31 PM ET
random: if anyone wants to experience the college world series here in omaha one year let me know. it's a hell of a time.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 23 @ 12:32 PM ET
If the Rangers want Stamkos they will figure out a way to make it work with or without us trading for Nash. It shouldn't effect either of our plans.

I'm in the minority but I believe Nash fits perfectly here for two years.

Add Nash and Vesey and this I a playoff top 6.

- sbroads24


Yep - agreed. I'm in the minority that doesn't really want Stamkos due to the center position logjam. I'd prefer to not have the NYR retain salary and get him for a cheaper price (a 3rd??). His salary goes away when someone is ready to step up and we have to re-sign the kids. He'd still have to waive his nmc.

My offseason:

Draft Keller (replaces Nash in 2 years)
Trade a 3rd for Nash
Trade a 3rd and Girgs for Fowler (a 2nd if a 3rd isn't enough)
Sign Vesey
Sign Johnson as a back up goalie
Trade for Datsuks contract - we have the cap space, why not get a prospect to do so? This also sets up a bidding war between TOR.DET and NYR for Stamkos
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 23 @ 12:39 PM ET
Yep - agreed. I'm in the minority that doesn't really want Stamkos due to the center position logjam. I'd prefer to not have the NYR retain salary and get him for a cheaper price (a 3rd??). His salary goes away when someone is ready to step up and we have to re-sign the kids. He'd still have to waive his nmc.

My offseason:

Draft Keller (replaces Nash in 2 years)
Trade a 3rd for Nash
Trade a 3rd and Girgs for Fowler (a 2nd if a 3rd isn't enough)
Sign Vesey
Sign Johnson as a back up goalie
Trade for Datsuks contract - we have the cap space, why not get a prospect to do so? This also sets up a bidding war between TOR.DET and NYR for Stamkos

- turbo044

I'd ask for Det 1st rounder next year.
yen6d1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: maxim Afinogenov, NY
Joined: 02.21.2011

Jun 23 @ 12:42 PM ET
I'd ask for Det 1st rounder next year.
- sbroads24

Solid chance that pick could be lower than this years
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 23 @ 12:44 PM ET
Solid chance that pick could be lower than this years
- yen6d1

which is why you ask.. but i doubt they give that up
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 23 @ 12:45 PM ET
You could say that Stamkos isn't worth the $$ if he produces like he did last year too, but I am banking on him returning to the normal rather than the outlier.


He would be our version of Hossa for 2 years. Hossa hasn't scored more than 30 as a Hawk but has been great as a 3rd or 4th option

- sbroads24



A) Hossa is more than likely a HOFer, Nash isn't.
B) Hossa's worst season since his rookie year was last year at age 37
C) Nash has had 2 sub 40 point seasons in his last 3
D) IMO he's starting to break down
E) He's kind of an enigma come playoff time (which is the furthest thing Hossa is)
F) This is where he fits in as far as options go for this team IMO.
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