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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 22 @ 6:49 PM ET
I'm done work, what's going on? anyone freaking out prematurely?
- A_SteamingLombardi

Ummm, daily.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 22 @ 6:49 PM ET
Certain posters will freak out no matter who Benning selects. I am trying to log their preferred selections so I can cross reference post draft. Ie. even if their "dream prospect" is chosen they will still freak out. I am keeping notes
- CanuckDon

everyone should create an account on draftsite.com and make their own mock draft and can see who gets the most right!
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 22 @ 6:51 PM ET
There lies the problem with most contracts. The player is near 30 and starting to decline in a couple of years but are expected to be paid even when they are worth nothing.
- manvanfan

and that's why i wish benning stays away from top tier free agents. as the first couple years of a ufa contract should be the most productive, i believe that they should keep the cap space until the new core is entering their primes.

bringing in ufa talent before the young players are ready to emerge into "starring roles" will improve the team but not enough to make them a contender. when the new core is starting to enter their prime, it would be disastrous to be overpaying declining vets. it's okay to be paying vets to play out their contracts when the team is rebuilding... not when it should be contending.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 22 @ 6:53 PM ET
everyone should create an account on draftsite.com and make their own mock draft and can see who gets the most right!
- manvanfan


My top 10 is 100% accurate:

Matthews
Laine
Pulj
Tkachuk
PLD
Nylander
Juolevi
Serg
Brown
Keller/ Jost
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 22 @ 6:53 PM ET
Certain posters will freak out no matter who Benning selects. I am trying to log their preferred selections so I can cross reference post draft. Ie. even if their "dream prospect" is chosen they will still freak out. I am keeping notes
- CanuckDon



You are a real dedicated troll.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 22 @ 6:53 PM ET
My top 10 is 100% accurate:

Matthews
Laine
Pulj
Tkachuk
PLD
Nylander
Juolevi
Serg
Brown
Keller/ Jost

- CanuckDon

Notes taken.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 22 @ 6:53 PM ET
and that's why i wish benning stays away from top tier free agents. as the first couple years of a ufa contract should be the most productive, i believe that they should keep the cap space until the new core is entering their primes.

bringing in ufa talent before the young players are ready to emerge into "starring roles" will improve the team but not enough to make them a contender. when the new core is starting to enter their prime, it would be disastrous to be overpaying declining vets. it's okay to be paying vets to play out their contracts when the team is rebuilding... not when it should be contending.

- RealityChecker

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 22 @ 6:55 PM ET

- Marwood

What's Fridays pie going to be?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 22 @ 6:57 PM ET
What's Fridays pie going to be?
- A_SteamingLombardi


steak, potatoes, mushrooms and half a cup of tears
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 22 @ 6:58 PM ET
What's Fridays pie going to be?
- A_SteamingLombardi

no pie.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 22 @ 7:01 PM ET
and that's why i wish benning stays away from top tier free agents. as the first couple years of a ufa contract should be the most productive, i believe that they should keep the cap space until the new core is entering their primes.

bringing in ufa talent before the young players are ready to emerge into "starring roles" will improve the team but not enough to make them a contender. when the new core is starting to enter their prime, it would be disastrous to be overpaying declining vets. it's okay to be paying vets to play out their contracts when the team is rebuilding... not when it should be contending.

- RealityChecker

Well Lucic and McGinn are both 28. Ladd Eriksson brouwer are 30. Really at 34 most of these guys drop off pretty good. Unless your name is Jagr or Thorton.
He kind of has to bring in some FA's because he is trading youth for more nhl ready players.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 22 @ 7:03 PM ET
My top 10 is 100% accurate:

Matthews
Laine
Pulj
Tkachuk
PLD
Nylander
Juolevi
Serg
Brown
Keller/ Jost

- CanuckDon

That would be my order probably but I also like to look at what a team is in most need of. Which Edmonton at 4. I just don't know. Most other teams seem to be pretty clear on what they need.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 22 @ 7:05 PM ET
That would be my order probably but I also like to look at what a team is in most need of. Which Edmonton at 4. I just don't know. Most other teams seem to be pretty clear on what they need.
- manvanfan


The hardest selection for me is Nylander at 6. Burke wants a forward with size pretty badly so it's possible he reaches for Brown or goes BPA who he may think is a Dman.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 22 @ 7:08 PM ET
Well Lucic and McGinn are both 28. Ladd Eriksson brouwer are 30. Really at 34 most of these guys drop off pretty good. Unless your name is Jagr or Thorton.
He kind of has to bring in some FA's because he is trading youth for more nhl ready players.

- manvanfan

i understand what he's doing and can surmise why. i just don't necessarily agree with the approach on a macro level (retooling on the fly) and on a micro level (meaning some of his moves).

either way, we're not going to know if he's right for a few years. i still think that the 2015 playoffs was a "dead cat" bounce. bringing in win now players may make them a playoff contender for a few years at the (possible) cost of being a real cup contender.

obviously, others see it differently and we won't know if benning's approach is the correct one or if he's just delaying the inevitable for a while yet.
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 22 @ 7:12 PM ET
Assuming that Hutton and Virtanen's stint in Utica doesn't count and I haven't read anything about a minumum games played for those professional seasons.
.

Hutton played 4 games in the regular season but Jake only suited up for games during the playoffs.

Edit.
I believe that Nylander who played only 37 games in is not exempt.

- belcherbd



The way I understand it is they MUST be in their 3rd year of ELC going into this year to be eligible for expansion draft.
The players exposed must of played 70 over 2 season or 40 in the season prior
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 22 @ 7:17 PM ET
http://news.nationalpost....officer-and-getting-tased

Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 22 @ 7:20 PM ET
Was TSN just reporting Panarin as winning calder? Or was it just who they thought should win?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 22 @ 7:23 PM ET
http://news.nationalpost....officer-and-getting-tased


- Retinalz

Someone has to fill the Kane spot.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 22 @ 7:24 PM ET
Was TSN just reporting Panarin as winning calder? Or was it just who they thought should win?
- Retinalz


Panarin. The rich keep getting richer.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jun 22 @ 7:26 PM ET
http://news.nationalpost....officer-and-getting-tased


- Retinalz



Sign him. He will cost way less then Lucic and it will probably end with the same results
bazz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 22 @ 7:29 PM ET
Certain posters will freak out no matter who Benning selects. I am trying to log their preferred selections so I can cross reference post draft. Ie. even if their "dream prospect" is chosen they will still freak out. I am keeping notes
- CanuckDon


Put me down for Tkachuk, Dubois, Juolevi. I may have a little freak out no matter what, but won't likely demand that Benning get fired.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 22 @ 7:32 PM ET
Put me down for Tkachuk, Dubois, Juolevi. I may have a little freak out no matter what, but won't likely demand that Benning get fired.
- bazz

So you're saying you're not going to have any alcohol tomorrow?
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jun 22 @ 7:33 PM ET
Put me down for Tkachuk, Dubois, Juolevi. I may have a little freak out no matter what, but won't likely demand that Benning get fired.
- bazz


I want Benning to draft Dubios. Any comparison to Jamie Benn is good enough for me. no freak outs though. I will be happy with Tkackuk or Juolevi as well.
bazz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 22 @ 7:34 PM ET
So you're saying you're not going to have any alcohol tomorrow?
- A_SteamingLombardi


Alcohol to enable tears and a freak out or to prevent. I'll be watching with my nine year old, which should keep me clean. He's already mad at me for turning him into a Canucks fan.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 22 @ 7:40 PM ET
i understand what he's doing and can surmise why. i just don't necessarily agree with the approach on a macro level (retooling on the fly) and on a micro level (meaning some of his moves).

either way, we're not going to know if he's right for a few years. i still think that the 2015 playoffs was a "dead cat" bounce. bringing in win now players may make them a playoff contender for a few years at the (possible) cost of being a real cup contender.

obviously, others see it differently and we won't know if benning's approach is the correct one or if he's just delaying the inevitable for a while yet.

- RealityChecker


Yeah, really can't do nothing about it so just hope it works out.
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